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I’m good with those rankings
Those are fair. Even at the end of the season at 125, doesn't really matter where the rankings shake out, in CLE the top 6 guys are all going to have to beat champion level contenders to get to the finals. Even the 1 seed is going to face a total stud in the semi's.
This is a very good point Free the Lee was definitely not because the Weight class is watered down that is for sure.
Have to beat the best to be the best. Glad that Lee is ready and going for it now?
Lets hope him and Kem can fire up the other guys to open up more go for it
what do u have to lose...GO HAWKS.
Lets hope him and Kem can fire up the other guys to open up more go for it
what do u have to lose...GO HAWKS.
OP, I'm sure you have heard this before (and not to get too off topic), but your avatar is gold. Still pissed we lost Slater as a Freshman transfer to Cal U.
Looks like about 75 points at NCs.
Lee going from R12 to top3 would increase that by 18ish
Bull going from R12 to top5 would increase that by 14ish
PD3 at 184 and top3 finish adds 19ish
Is 126 with zero champions enough to win?
If it wasn’t 100% do you really think tom would be pulling his redshirt?
I thought I noticed him favoring it a little in his loss, maybe it's just mental, or maybe I'm just mental. 
I thought I noticed him favoring it a little in his loss, maybe it's just mental, or maybe I'm just mental.
Yeah..........I think the brace is metal........
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I'd love get my hands on that brace just to see if it is restrictive...and put it in my man cave.
Possibly. It could be considered "good enough".
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As someone that has had knee surgery, albeit a "few years back", I would be surprised if it were 100% already. With that said, different kids heal and rehab better(maybe quicker is better said) than others, but I would bet it isnt 100% til later this year, as in summer. That is the reason for the brace. Just that little extra support both physically AND mentally. Having that extra support is apt to give him more confidence in awkward stressful situations that might otherwise be without it.
Looking forward to seeing him go.
GO HAWKS!!
No. But enough to trophy? Something I dont think many of us would have said was possible 2-3 months ago.
GO HAWKS!!
I thought I noticed him favoring it a little in his loss, maybe it's just mental, or maybe I'm just mental.
Afterwards, he said his knee was fine.
You talking in code again? If so, you’re gonna need hella Vaseline for that one, my friend.
You talking in code again? If so, you’re gonna need hella Vaseline for that one, my friend.
Yeesh, my poor phrasing again.
After the last couple weeks no Vaseline is needed. After being attacked by Kwood, the friendliest guy on this board, I know anything I say will be attacked. I can handle it.
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Sure. At 80% or 85%, yea. Many guys compete with injuries that still need time or worse. Nothing new.
If 100%, why that brace? (And before anyone reacts, it is a fair question. Wrestling with a brace is very limiting and that size of brace is not needed for a stable/reliable knee even as precaution) there is a lot of pressure about Lee and I can see them taking a risk sooner than they wanted
It is exciting, sure. I am excited to see him compete but it can go both ways. I don’t think they would do something stupid or dangerous. I do think there are risks they are willing to take. No one has all the data on this to say one way or the other. Maybe 5 people in the world have the entire picture. I am going to trust them and enjoy.
Tom can’t win one way or the other in this, so...go get ‘em Lee. It will be a great boost.
I thought I noticed him favoring it a little in his loss, maybe it's just mental, or maybe I'm just mental.
Afterwards, he said his knee was fine.
What else would he say?
That is exactly why he should go this year! If he sits this season while ready to go, and then in his SO year he has to take time off for injury right before the B1Gs = He missed 2 seasons for nothing.
How about rayvon foley (true freshman, Michigan state) getting to wrestle both of these guys (Lee and back pack Lizak) in the same weekend. I feel bad for that kids shoulders already.
On board or not he is going So, you can be gleeful.
This thread works fine. I never said anything about riding the pine. That’s your macho thing. I was saying the knee is not 100% and at his age and injury, there are risks. They seem to be comfortable and i have no say in it so, cool.
Hell, since we don’t know enough behind the curtain (and none of us do), we will never know good call or bad call. So, I am going to trust and enjoy.
For the record, I like his thought of learning through competition and not protecting a possible legacy. Good for him. More should think that way. Without the knee, my “meaningless as yours” opinion would be go for it. Strategically, I would rather him be on next years more developed team to make a run for 4 years. But Ok, I will take these 4 years.
This was a reply in a personal conversation (not to me), not the media. He could have said:
1. It's a little sore but working out the kinks
2. OMG I thought the splits were going to do me in
3. If not for that damn knee, I would have beaten that dodgy stoner kid with the blue hair and that goofy brown dog. Oh wait, I've been watching too many Scooby ReRuns.
4. Well I had so much f*** out there, even in a loss, I didn't notice my knee at all.
I was on your side, I just thought the longer he was around the better. However, the waiting was horrible and if they think he's literally ready to roll, I'll watch.
Use your eyes.
The question was if they would let him go if not 100%. I said yes. They will and are taking the chance. That knee is not 100% and D1 wrestling is hard on the body. He is taking a risk at this point. Injury risk is always there but the further your away from surgery, the better your chances to avoid re injury. But, the normal risk is always there too so you kind of stack the odds a little.
Not rooting against him or anything.
As a guy who wrestled 90% of his career in a brace and 8 or 10 surgeries, I am concerned FOR him. But like I made my choice, he did too. He is way more talented and most likely has superior doctors so that helps. I just don’t want to see a bright career cut short and don’t wish life with a bad knee on anyone. But to be clear and use words, I will be there Friday and look forward to seeing this kid light it up. Maybe just an extra prayer of protection.
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