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Oregon occupiers release videos mocking FBI, joyriding in federal vehicles

Same situation, different reaction. It's called manipulated reaction mechanisms to certain situations.

Oh brother, same situation? Oh christ. So you are, in fact, arguing that the federal government came in and took Bundy, et al's land without due process?

For f**** sake man, you can't even answer the simple ones.
 
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Wait, what? None of that has anything to do with that I posted.

Are you now claiming that the federal government took their land without due process? And the "they" in this is the people occupying, not some tangential-argument Afhganis.

These weren't difficult questions:

Do you think Bundy, et all, if they get their "land back" will allow me to use it? How about the rest of the state, or even county?
Have you asked him?
 
Oh brother, same situation? Oh christ. So you are, in fact, arguing that the federal government came in and took Bundy, et al's land without due process?

For f**** sake man, you can't even answer the simple ones.
Due process as in using the system to unjustly take something by claiming it's just?
 
kiting...you asked me to cite "ghe same thing"..I can't 'cause the "same thiung" seldom if ever happens twice. However, both these instances involved illegal actions in a public setting and a shooting death resulted........These white guys are still illegally on my land. And nothing is being done to remove them. Look at how the blacks were dealt with in Ferguson.
Why does the color of ones skin matter? And yes, it is your land, and my land, and their land. it isn't ferguson. In ferguson hundreds of Americans burnt a store down, looted more, attacked the police with molitov cocktails, and destroyed a number of cars and other stuff. It was a full on riot with hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage and danger. In Oregon one person was shot and it was one of the occupiers. It's not a matter of black and white. The government had no problem bombing Waco or the MOVE movement. They have no problem arresting violent protests from BLM, or West Virginia students after a bowl victory.

You are right, it has almost never happened. Most people protest in highly populated areas and disrupt people's lives. This group did the opposite. It's unprecedented aside from religious cults.

It's a hard decision for the Feds, but the last thing they should do is make another Waco. The group isn't really a threat to anyone right now, so keep it that way.
 
Why does the color of ones skin matter? And yes, it is your land, and my land, and their land. it isn't ferguson. In ferguson hundreds of Americans burnt a store down, looted more, attacked the police with molitov cocktails, and destroyed a number of cars and other stuff. It was a full on riot with hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage and danger. In Oregon one person was shot and it was one of the occupiers. It's not a matter of black and white. The government had no problem bombing Waco or the MOVE movement. They have no problem arresting violent protests from BLM, or West Virginia students after a bowl victory.

You are right, it has almost never happened. Most people protest in highly populated areas and disrupt people's lives. This group did the opposite. It's unprecedented aside from religious cults.

It's a hard decision for the Feds, but the last thing they should do is make another Waco. The group isn't really a threat to anyone right now, so keep it that way.

Ignoring the skin color and other similar parts of your post, I wanted to ask a more broad question:

If this had been someone's land/building you would have been fully in favor of forceful and immediate removal, right?
 
Ignoring the skin color and other similar parts of your post, I wanted to ask a more broad question:

If this had been someone's land/building you would have been fully in favor of forceful and immediate removal, right?
I would defer that decision to the property owner.
 
Why does the color of ones skin matter? And yes, it is your land, and my land, and their land. it isn't ferguson. In ferguson hundreds of Americans burnt a store down, looted more, attacked the police with molitov cocktails, and destroyed a number of cars and other stuff. It was a full on riot with hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage and danger. In Oregon one person was shot and it was one of the occupiers. It's not a matter of black and white. The government had no problem bombing Waco or the MOVE movement. They have no problem arresting violent protests from BLM, or West Virginia students after a bowl victory.

You are right, it has almost never happened. Most people protest in highly populated areas and disrupt people's lives. This group did the opposite. It's unprecedented aside from religious cults.

It's a hard decision for the Feds, but the last thing they should do is make another Waco. The group isn't really a threat to anyone right now, so keep it that way.
What if law-abiding Americans want to visit those public lands and use those public facilities?
 
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