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OT: Cuonzo Martin to Mizzou

Hired Porters father as an assistant
Doesn't look curious at all
I thought the NCAA recently adopted a rule that a school could not hire a coach, who was related to a prospective recruit for a certain period of time from his recruitment. Did I just dream that up?
 
Well for Iowa's sake we should all hope that Bennett stays put. Illinois is a sleeping giant- especially in the Chicago area. In addition, Cuonzo Martin will have a major impact on Iowa's recruiting in the St. Louis area.
Totally agree. Illinois scares the bejeesus out of me, in the BIG, if they ever hire THE guy to coach them in basketball or football. ( Don't think Lovie is that guy in football, by the way).
 
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I would take Porter in a heartbeat. For a team like Missouri, he would make a difference.

Ok Missouri won like 7 games this season will improve to 12. No point in hiring him, like I said hire the dad of a top 3 recruit in 2-3 years so that player makes a difference. Is it a
One year hire if not waste on money.

Oh course we would take him in a heartbeat we are probably a tourney team next year, Missouri isn't a NIT team with him next year.
 
I'm saying Martin has resources that Iowa frowns upon.

By the way, I notice that sometimes the questions I ask don't get answered. So, again, other than Cook WHAT Missouri pipeline!?!? o_O And do you really think Martin being closer to Iowa makes a big difference?
Where did I proclaim Iowa has a "pipeline" in the St. Louis area? Iowa was able to get the 4* Cook out of the St. Louis area, which is an indicator that the Iowa staff has made some in-roads in the St. Louis area. Do you have proof that Cuonzo uses questionable resources or is this merely speculation?
 
Where did I proclaim Iowa has a "pipeline" in the St. Louis area? Iowa was able to get the 4* Cook out of the St. Louis area, which is an indicator that the Iowa staff has made some in-roads in the St. Louis area. Do you have proof that Cuonzo uses questionable resources or is this merely speculation?

I have proof he hired an ex-Louisville assistant while at Cal and I say that's all the proof I need. :) You could call it speculation but then I'd continue calling your concern that Martin moving closer to Iowa will create harm to Iowa's recruiting really bad speculation. And then this could all escalate and I'd remind that at Cal he pulled in Moore from Chicago anyway so what did distance matter?
 
I have proof he hired an ex-Louisville assistant while at Cal and I say that's all the proof I need. :) You could call it speculation but then I'd continue calling your concern that Martin moving closer to Iowa will create harm to Iowa's recruiting really bad speculation. And then this could all escalate and I'd remind that at Cal he pulled in Moore from Chicago anyway so what did distance matter?
I find it odd that you did not answer my question, so I will ask it again. Where did I write that Iowa had a pipeline to St. Louis? o_O How is hiring an ex Louisville coach something that concerns you? The ex Louisville coach was only doing what his head coach wanted. Rick P. is the cancer @ Louisville not an assistant.
 
Well for Iowa's sake we should all hope that Bennett stays put. Illinois is a sleeping giant- especially in the Chicago area. In addition, Cuonzo Martin will have a major impact on Iowa's recruiting in the St. Louis area.

I find it odd that you did not answer my question, so I will ask it again. Where did I write that Iowa had a pipeline to St. Louis? o_O How is hiring an ex Louisville coach something that concerns you? The ex Louisville coach was only doing what his head coach wanted. Rick P. is the cancer @ Louisville not an assistant.

imo, you are just being silly now. In order for Martin to have a major impact, you've implied that there is something of considerable value to be harmed. Have you not? Or are you just blowing smoke?

And, sure, assistants have no responsibility for choosing the programs they will work at. They have nothing to do with the recruiting practices of the coach.
 
Isn't Porter the #1 or #2 recruit in the nation? I think Mizzou would have a pretty good shot at the NIT with him. I think you underestimate the value of a player like that.
 
Isn't Porter the #1 or #2 recruit in the nation? I think Mizzou would have a pretty good shot at the NIT with him. I think you underestimate the value of a player like that.

Didn't Washington have the number 3 recruit in the country and win 9 games. Also LSU had more talent than Missouri and would have not made the NIT.

I think your overvaluing a top player joining a awful team. They won't make the NIT. It's a pointless hire is what I'm saying. He's also a bad coach who won't make you better as a top recruit.
 
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Didn't Washington have the number 3 recruit in the country and win 9 games. Also LSU had more talent than Missouri and would have not made the NIT.

I think your overvaluing a top player joining a awful team. They won't make the NIT. It's a pointless hire is what I'm saying. He's also a bad coach who won't make you better as a top recruit.
Point well taken but I disagree that you can just flat out say Porter won't improve MO enough to make the NIT. Agree with you on Cuonzo being a questionable coach.
 
Point well taken but I disagree that you can just flat out say Porter won't improve MO enough to make the NIT. Agree with you on Cuonzo being a questionable coach.
Didn't Washington have the number 3 recruit in the country and win 9 games. Also LSU had more talent than Missouri and would have not made the NIT.

I think your overvaluing a top player joining a awful team. They won't make the NIT. It's a pointless hire is what I'm saying. He's also a bad coach who won't make you better as a top recruit.
Yes they did; however; however, Lorenzo Romar is not Cuonzo Martin. People can say what they want about Cuonzo Martin and his lack of coaching ability (which I agree he is not much of a game day coach), but the guy can flat out recruit. He has taken 3 teams to the NIT, two teams to the NCAA Tournament, and has taken his team to the Sweet 16. Once he has rebuilt Mizzou he will have accomplished what Fran has accomplished by leading three teams to the NCAA Tournament.
 
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Yes they did; however; however, Lorenzo Romar is not Cuonzo Martin. People can say what they want about Cuonzo Martin and his lack of coaching ability (which I agree he is not muyghtch of a game day coach), but the guy can flat oèut recruit. He has taken 3 teams to the NIT, two teams to the NCAA Tournamentg, and has taken his team to the Sweet 16. Once he has rebuilt Mizzou he will have accomplished what Fran has accomplished by leading three teams to the NCAA Tournament.

He reminds me of Alford he can recruit, but not coach. Mrissouri needs him their programs is a disaster right now, he may never go to the elite 8, but may take them to the tourney in a few years. I don't know why but he just rubs me the wrong way.

I wouldn't want him at Iowa, fan wouldn't either.
 
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Yes they did; however; however, Lorenzo Romar is not Cuonzo Martin. People can say what they want about Cuonzo Martin and his lack of coaching ability (which I agree he is not much of a game day coach), but the guy can flat out recruit. He has taken 3 teams to the NIT, two teams to the NCAA Tournament, and has taken his team to the Sweet 16. Once he has rebuilt Mizzou he will have accomplished what Fran has accomplished by leading three teams to the NCAA Tournament.
and at Martin's next stop he can try and match Fran's accomplishment of taking 4 teams to the NCAA tournament.
 
I thought the NCAA recently adopted a rule that a school could not hire a coach, who was related to a prospective recruit for a certain period of time from his recruitment. Did I just dream that up?

Can't hire AAU coaches, nothing against parents that I know of.
 
I'm saying Martin has resources that Iowa frowns upon.

By the way, I notice that sometimes the questions I ask don't get answered. So, again, other than Cook WHAT Missouri pipeline!?!? o_O And do you really think Martin being closer to Iowa makes a big difference?
I think the Dakota Access Pipeline is going through St Louis
 
Cuonzo took the Cal job because it was open and he wanted to shove it down the throat of the Vols fan base. They rode him and wanted him out and Bruce Pearl back, and then he directed the Vols to the Sweet 16 and bolted to Cal. That was the Vols team that beat Iowa in the play in game. He recruited some studs to Cal; however, as someone else mentioned the guy is not much of a game day coach. He will have Mizzou back on the map again. Furthermore, he is a St. Louis native.

That Iowa team was on fumes at the end of the season, and Tennessee got to the Sweet 16, by beating UMass and Mercer. Remember, Mercer beat Duke.

Cuonzo wasn't liked, because he wasn't Bruce Pearl.
Cuonzo isn't a bad guy, but he's not a media guy, and the style of play who closer to Todd Lickliter, than Bruce Pearl.

UT made the mistake in firing Bruce Pearl. Never should've, and yes, I know he lied to the NCAA, but Pearl is the best UT will ever do in a basketball head coach.
 
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Porter Jr got released from his NLI and will sign with Mizzou. If that isn't sketchy I don't know what is.
 
Both Porter kids will be gone in 3 years.

Should be interesting to watch
 
If someone wants to use a six figure coaching position to get one or two players, go for it. It's the ops positions that are limited.
 
So mizz out just paid out a legal transaction of about $1M (over 3 years) for 2 kids.

This stuff happens a lot, illegally, just ask Shaq and Charlie Moore
 
Totally agree. Illinois scares the bejeesus out of me, in the BIG, if they ever hire THE guy to coach them in basketball or football. ( Don't think Lovie is that guy in football, by the way).

I agree with this as well for the most part.
 
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