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What's going on in Lincoln? 4 transfers out. Definitely either a meltdown or getting rid of poor attitudes on the team.
 
It's odd because McD and his staff recruited really well at Iowa St, just didn't get the breaks or have the depth.

Miles - I really have no clue. His new arena has been filled and the excitement has been there, but other than 1 year he's been a dud at Nebraska.


I get a real Greg McDermott vibe from Miles, although Miles was better at NU than McD was at ISU.
 
I am surprised that Miles survived this offseason. I thought he would be fired when Morrow announced that he was transferring. Morrow was a legacy and the team's 2nd or 3rd best player this year, as a sophomore. That is a sign that something is wrong.

As Iowa well knows from the Lickliter days, transfers are problematic when the transferring players are starters. You don't improve as a program when the nucleus is splitting and you are constantly rebuilding. It is hard enough to replace senior starters without also having to replace underclassmen starters.

I think that Miles' problem is that his acceptance of any high-level transfer who wants to come sends a message that he is not loyal to the players who are already in the program. It is hard for a player to sacrifice individual development for the team when the team views him as expendable.
 
Who are the 4 again that are transerring, and of the 4, who were starters?
1) Ed Morrow
2) Michael Jacobson
3)
4)

1 graduated, correct? So that is 5 schollie players of their 13 gone since the season ended?


  1. Chad Leistikow‏Verified account@ChadLeistikow Apr 10
    Chad Leistikow Retweeted Nebraska Basketball

    Waukee product is 4th recent Husker to transfer.

    Chad Leistikow added,

    Nebraska BasketballVerified account@HuskerHoops
    Statement from Coach Miles on Michael Jacobson. #Huskers http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=211555269…
    3 replies2 retweets9 likes
 
No one will win consistently at Nebraska. In the B1G Basketball the Huskers are at the bottom of the league with Penn State and Rutgers and that is where they will stay.
 
Who are the 4 again that are transerring, and of the 4, who were starters?
1) Ed Morrow
2) Michael Jacobson
3)
4)

1 graduated, correct? So that is 5 schollie players of their 13 gone since the season ended?

You have identified the transferring starters. The other two transfers are Nick Fuller and Jeriah Horne. Fuller was not a significant contributor. Jeriah Horne averaged 4.3 ppg and 1.9 rpg as a freshman this year.

Tai Webster is the graduating senior. When you include him with the transfers, Nebraska loses 49.8% of their scoring from last year, 50.7% of their rebounding, 50.8% of their assists, and 52.6% of their blocked shots.
 
I am surprised that Miles survived this offseason. I thought he would be fired when Morrow announced that he was transferring. Morrow was a legacy and the team's 2nd or 3rd best player this year, as a sophomore. That is a sign that something is wrong.

As Iowa well knows from the Lickliter days, transfers are problematic when the transferring players are starters. You don't improve as a program when the nucleus is splitting and you are constantly rebuilding. It is hard enough to replace senior starters without also having to replace underclassmen starters.

I think that Miles' problem is that his acceptance of any high-level transfer who wants to come sends a message that he is not loyal to the players who are already in the program. It is hard for a player to sacrifice individual development for the team when the team views him as expendable.

It's a balancing act to be sure with the transfers. No one can blame a coach for taking in a transfer who improves the program. Miles taking White from Kansas filled an area of need. But in turn it devastates the program when White then left as a graduate transfer for Syracuse, as other wing/SG prospects would not sign with White and 30+ minutes on board. Fran took Uthoff and that was certainly a good thing.

But it is very difficult for a program to move forward if rotation players/starters are moving on. It erodes depth and raises doubt. I too found it surprising that he wasn't fired, the Nebraska AD would have been justified in doing so. Miles' personality and acceptance by the Nebraska media and administration likely saved his job so far. That may serve to further damage the program before making the necessary changes.
 
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Who are the 4 again that are transerring, and of the 4, who were starters?
1) Ed Morrow
2) Michael Jacobson
3)
4)

1 graduated, correct? So that is 5 schollie players of their 13 gone since the season ended?


  1. Chad Leistikow‏Verified account@ChadLeistikow Apr 10
    Chad Leistikow Retweeted Nebraska Basketball

    Waukee product is 4th recent Husker to transfer.

    Chad Leistikow added,

    Nebraska BasketballVerified account@HuskerHoops
    Statement from Coach Miles on Michael Jacobson. #Huskers http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=211555269…
    3 replies2 retweets9 likes

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/nebraska

It's so dang confusing!!! (I'm serious...it is so dang confusing...not trying to be funny.)
 
Who are the 4 again that are transerring, and of the 4, who were starters?
1) Ed Morrow
2) Michael Jacobson
3)
4)

1 graduated, correct? So that is 5 schollie players of their 13 gone since the season ended?


  1. Chad Leistikow‏Verified account@ChadLeistikow Apr 10
    Chad Leistikow Retweeted Nebraska Basketball

    Waukee product is 4th recent Husker to transfer.

    Chad Leistikow added,

    Nebraska BasketballVerified account@HuskerHoops
    Statement from Coach Miles on Michael Jacobson. #Huskers http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=211555269…
    3 replies2 retweets9 likes
Ed Morrow Jr is transferring
Jeriah Horne is transferring
Michael Jacobson is transferring
Nick Fuller is transferring
 
I think that Miles' problem is that his acceptance of any high-level transfer who wants to come sends a message that he is not loyal to the players who are already in the program. It is hard for a player to sacrifice individual development for the team when the team views him as expendable.

Fred Hoiberg would disagree.
 
1. Sergej Vucetic
2. Deverell Biggs
3. Nathan Hawkins
4. Tarin Smith
5. Walter Pitchford
6. Terran Petteway
7. Johnny Trueblood
8. Jacob Hammond
9. Bakari Evelyn
10. Andrew White
11. Nick Fuller
12. Jeriah Horne
13. Michael Jacobson
14. Ed Morrow

That's the total number of Cornhuskers players that have either transferred out, quit the program (i.e. Pitchford), or left early for the NBA Draft (i.e. Petteway) since the conclusion of Tim Miles' first season at Nebraska (2012-2013).

They might not be as bad next season as some would think (still have a core of Glynn Watson, Evan Taylor, Jack McVeigh, Isaiah Roby, and Jordy Tshimanga, along with incoming transfers James Palmer and Isaac Copeland), but just looking at the program's attrition rate since Miles has been there, it doesn't bode well for them/him in the long term.
 
1. Sergej Vucetic
2. Deverell Biggs
3. Nathan Hawkins
4. Tarin Smith
5. Walter Pitchford
6. Terran Petteway
7. Johnny Trueblood
8. Jacob Hammond
9. Bakari Evelyn
10. Andrew White
11. Nick Fuller
12. Jeriah Horne
13. Michael Jacobson
14. Ed Morrow

That's the total number of Cornhuskers players that have either transferred out, quit the program (i.e. Pitchford), or left early for the NBA Draft (i.e. Petteway) since the conclusion of Tim Miles' first season at Nebraska (2012-2013).

They might not be as bad next season as some would think (still have a core of Glynn Watson, Evan Taylor, Jack McVeigh, Isaiah Roby, and Jordy Tshimanga, along with incoming transfers James Palmer and Isaac Copeland), but just looking at the program's attrition rate since Miles has been there, it doesn't bode well for them/him in the long term.

thank you for making this list.

makes you wonder if the players just can't stand him, like Lick?
 
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It's a meltdown. They are running away from Miles. The man cannot coach at all. Gonna be ugly in Lincoln next season.
I actually knew Miles when I was in college. If you look at his ascent to where he's at, in my opinion it seems much different than a lot of guys and I think he's in over his head.

He went from small College asst to another small College as head coach took the job at North Dakota State and then on to Colorado State before UN.

While impressive, he doesn't seem to have ever been in a situation where he was mentored by a big-time coach. I think he would be fine as a mid-major coach but it just seems you have to be connected and learned the ropes somewhere along the line. I just don't see guys take his trajectory that often.
 
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I actually knew Miles when I was in college. If you look at his ascent to where he's at, in my opinion it seems much different than a lot of guys and I think he's in over his head.

He went from small College asst to another small College as head coach took the job at North Dakota State and then on to Colorado State before UN.

While impressive, he doesn't seem to have ever been in a situation where he was mentored by a big-time coach. I think he would be fine as a mid-major coach but it just seems you have to be connected and learned the ropes somewhere along the line. I just don't see guys take his trajectory that often.
I know Miles a little also from his time in Ft Collins. Nice guy & likes his whiskey. But who doesn't ;)
 
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