OT: Schiano to Tennessee
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There are some REALLY pissed off Tennessee fans. Remember, schiano was an asst that looked the other way in the Sandusky pedophile deal.
"I admire Tennessee's willingness to answer a middle finger from its fans with one of its own."
"I admire Tennessee's willingness to answer a middle finger from its fans with one of its own."
Man oh man are Tennessee fans pissed. There could be a riot in Knoxville tonight.
Wow, retreads all around. This whole things like a game of musical chairs.
Allegedly this is on TN’s campus
Cheers to Tenn fans for being pissed about his hire. What was the AD thinking???
that the new coach would fit right in with tn fans?
lol. But seriously, the TN fans seem incredibly pissed. I give them begrudging credit for being pissed off about hiring a pedophile apologist.
Nice. Must be fun to be Greg Schiano right now, and he hasn't even coached a game yet. I think I'd pull the cord on this deal right now before they set one of these up in his front yard.....
Allegedly this is on TN’s campus
Always nice to see a former penn state employee eat shit for the disgusting acts and cult of personality that they were afraid to stand up to
OMG. Which is more embarrassing? Hiring him in the first place? Or, backing out of the deal?
Ugh. Who are they going to get now?
Ugh. Who are they going to get now?
From USA Today, which calls Tenn fans a bunch of cry babies:
The purported reason behind Tennessee fans’ anger has to do with his time as a 25-year old assistant just starting his career at Penn State. Schiano’s alleged involvement in the Jerry Sandusky scandal is laughably thin. In a 2015 deposition of former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary, he said that he had “briefly” spoken with former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley about rape allegations involving Sandusky.
McQueary went on to say that Bradley had told him another assistant — purported to be Schiano, who had left Penn State nine years before McQueary started there — had once claimed to see Sandusky doing something inappropriate, a claim Schiano and Bradley both denied.
So, in other words, a non-specific claim based on third-hand hearsay that was never followed up on or investigated by prospectors in the case is literally Schiano’s only connection to the Sandusky case — and it allegedly happened when he was a low-level staffer just starting out in the business.
But by the time #VolTwitter got hold of it, the facts didn’t matter. The narrative had turned into something about Schiano enabling Sandusky’s crimes, which — let's be honest here — comes across as less than genuine concern over his character and more about finding a reason to bash a hire they didn’t like.
What Tennessee fans don’t understand is that their behavior Sunday hurt the program. If Schiano and Tennessee indeed finalize an agreement (it hadn’t happened by 7 p.m. ET on Sunday), it’s a marriage that starts out on terrible footing. If they go their separate ways, Tennessee’s fan base will forever carry the stain inside the profession of being crybabies for whom nothing is good enough.
LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...schiano-bad-look-tennessee-program/896397001/
The purported reason behind Tennessee fans’ anger has to do with his time as a 25-year old assistant just starting his career at Penn State. Schiano’s alleged involvement in the Jerry Sandusky scandal is laughably thin. In a 2015 deposition of former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary, he said that he had “briefly” spoken with former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley about rape allegations involving Sandusky.
McQueary went on to say that Bradley had told him another assistant — purported to be Schiano, who had left Penn State nine years before McQueary started there — had once claimed to see Sandusky doing something inappropriate, a claim Schiano and Bradley both denied.
So, in other words, a non-specific claim based on third-hand hearsay that was never followed up on or investigated by prospectors in the case is literally Schiano’s only connection to the Sandusky case — and it allegedly happened when he was a low-level staffer just starting out in the business.
But by the time #VolTwitter got hold of it, the facts didn’t matter. The narrative had turned into something about Schiano enabling Sandusky’s crimes, which — let's be honest here — comes across as less than genuine concern over his character and more about finding a reason to bash a hire they didn’t like.
What Tennessee fans don’t understand is that their behavior Sunday hurt the program. If Schiano and Tennessee indeed finalize an agreement (it hadn’t happened by 7 p.m. ET on Sunday), it’s a marriage that starts out on terrible footing. If they go their separate ways, Tennessee’s fan base will forever carry the stain inside the profession of being crybabies for whom nothing is good enough.
LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...schiano-bad-look-tennessee-program/896397001/
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Perhaps Schiano can wipe the tears with part of the Grand Destiny money PSU collected during the same time they granted their former defensive coordinator access to bring orphans onto campus grounds with the intent of raping them.
IMO Schiano is a good coach. Not an NFL guy as we witnessed but would be a good fit at ~ certain schools. Probably not UT however.
Matt Campbell to UT would be intriguing but I think he goes to to Ark or A&M because of the $. Pure speculation for shits n giggles.
Matt Campbell to UT would be intriguing but I think he goes to to Ark or A&M because of the $. Pure speculation for shits n giggles.
You sound worse than the Tennessee fans; did you read the USA Today article I linked?
Yes. Tennessee fans are delusional, along with over half of the college football fanbase, on their importance to the landscape. Regardless, I'm not a bit hurt that Schiano has reportedly not been hired by Tennessee, nor was I at all surprised he denied McQueary's allegation.
So did everyone at PSU, including several who have spent time behind bars for covering up the repeated, long-term abuse of orphans on campus grounds. Stating you knew about pedophilia and did nothing is a career-ending move.
Rumors that contract was signed 2 weeks ago and Tennessee may owe Schiano $20 mil for buyout. Wow
You sound like Joseph McCarthy, Schiano left State College in 1995, McQuery wasn't a grad assistant until 2002: it was a full 7 years later after Schiano left when McQuery witnessed Sandusky. When he left PSU Mcquery was a sophomore player on the team.
USA Today doesn't say I'm incorrect. Schiano and Bradley do. Given the track record of lying and covering up at Penn State, I'll go with McQueary's account of what happened. I don't trust anyone who was a long-time football coaching staff member working with Sandusky or Paterno. You can believe Schiano if you want. Personally, I'm with the Tennessee fans on this one. I would not want that person representing the University of Iowa, either. It was bad enough having Steve Alford supporting the rapist Pierre Pierce. And a lot of UCLA fans feel the same way about Alford. Tennessee can find a better coach AND a better representative of the university.
No contract was signed they had an understanding of terms which is totally different.
I completely understand your opinion.
The fact that Penn State is in our conference and has already recovered from the Sandusky related sanctions makes me very uncomfortable.
I guess my only point is, what if Schiano had no idea what Sandusky was up to? But you are right, it sure does not look good when McQuerey said that Bradley said that Schiano was white as a ghost when he told him what he saw Sandusky doing to a child
but do you get the USA Today's point where its a "he (MdQuery) said that he (Bradley) said that he (Schiano) said" kind of thing? Schiano did not say this directly to McQuery, so its kind of flimsy evidence
Whats interesting is Ohio State hired Schiano and Urban Meyer has stood up for him. Also, UCLA hired Bradley and Jim Mora stood up for him.
I understand what you're getting at. I certainly don't think there's the type of evidence to be able to take Schiano to court or anything like that. And it is possible that he didn't know. The problem -- for Tennessee and any other program that wants to hire him -- is that he was employed by Penn State and worked with the coaching staff while Sandusky was "active." It creates a major public perception problem because even though there's no way (legally, especially) to prove he knew about it, there's also no way to prove he didn't know about it.
The scandal was so awful and Sandusky's behavior going on for decades taints everyone he worked with while he was there. It may or may not be fair, but when is life fair? The point is, employers have the right to hire people who they believe best represent their public image. That makes for plenty of ugly institutional practices. The fact that Penn State didn't get the death penalty has definitely raised the ire of people around the nation. And guys like Greg Schiano are paying the price, for good or bad.
There is one way in which this is good. I think it encourages fellow employees to come forward if they see behavior of Sandusky's type. Not coming forward is clearly a means to see career possibilities disappear and maybe that's a good lesson for people to learn. It's not like Schiano is sitting in a prison cell right now. He's been getting paid big bucks for 22 years after he left Penn State. He'll live without the Tens job. For Tens, given the outcry, they made the right move.
I think they have a 90k stadium or something. Imagine how much money they'd lose if there were massive boycotts of games and season ticket holders turned away in droves? Even if they do have to pay a large buyout to Schiano, they'll lose less money than if they had hired him. The AD should have done a better job vetting and/or running focus groups, talking with the powers-that-be in Tenn. They could have avoided all this, but I'm personally glad they didn't. Not because of anything I have personally against Tennessee or Schiano, but because it puts the Ped State fiasco back into the limelight which is where it should stay.
But I do understand your point. It's just that ... everyone connected to the football team in any way during the Sandusky era is going to have a cloud over their head forever. The other thing that's killed all of those people was Paterno and the others saying, "We didn't know anything about this behavior for 40 years." Not one person of significance connected to PSU football raised a red flag or came out after the scandal broke and said, "I suspected something, but I didn't know with certainty. I am so sorry that I let everyone down by not being more vigilant and by not confronting Sandusky or Paterno." Paterno, especially, had to know. He was a coward and an accomplice. And it's hard not to believe that he didn't do everything to keep the underlings in line (which is what I mean by institutional malfeasance).
Totally respect your opinion. And I agree, how can any university hire a guy linked at all to Paterno/Sandusky? I wonder if there will be any outcry at Ohio State now that this issue has been revisited? What was Urban Meyer thinking?
It looks like the Tenn AD might get fired over this for not vetting Schiano.
I think the PSU football program should have been shut down for a few years; I don't think Penn State paid enough for this scandal. Lord, can you imagine being a Penn State fan and having to be constantly reminded of "Sandusky?"
Its amazing how "Sandusky" is causing damage now and probably will be causing damage for years to come.
I will sound stupid here but has there been a movie done yet? Remember the prosecutor that went missing and his laptop found in a lake? Was he ever found? There are so many things to this scandal.
