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Scott Frost IMO. I think Campbell is the better coach. Now with that said, the Nebraska fan base is pretty much dead set on Frost or nothing. Their new AD is backed into a corner and I am not sure he knows it. They literally will be pissed off to say the least if it's anybody but Frost. They Frost automatically equates to 90's glory years.
 
IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life said:
Scott Frost IMO. I think Campbell is the better coach. Now with that said, the Nebraska fan base is pretty much dead set on Frost or nothing. Their new AD is backed into a corner and I am not sure he knows it. They literally will be pissed off to say the least if it's anybody but Frost. They Frost automatically equates to 90's glory years.
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Campbell earned a $500,000 bonus with the win today. That can’t hurt.
 
Nebraska's in a no-win situation. Retain Riley and continue being bad, or fire him and hope some coach will take the job knowing they have to win 18 games a year or they'll be fired.
 
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8-4 is likely now. Skeptical as I've been about the idea that everyone will come after him... Campbell would be a fool not to take an upgrade if offered. With all the losses to graduation...they'll be back to 5 wins next fall.
 
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HawkIDrummer said:
8-4 is likely now. Skeptical as I've been about the idea that everyone will come after him... Campbell would be a fool not to take an upgrade if offered. With all the losses to graduation...they'll be back to 5 wins next fall.
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This is a young team. Just about everybody familiar with the program thought next year would be the year they started winning. There are some outstanding seniors who will be missed, but there is a lot of young talent.
 
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Lone Clone said:
This is a young team. Just about everybody familiar with the program thought next year would be the year they started winning. There are some outstanding seniors who will be missed, but there is a lot of young talent.
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Apparently all your coaches missed big time on Kyle Kempt. In 6 games he's gone...then what? Back to Goober Pyle? ... or will he be gone.
 
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I don’t think he’s leaving until one of the real big dog jobs (OSU) comes open. He is a deity in Ames right now.

I think we’re stuck with him for at least another 4 years or so.
 
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Apparently all your coaches missed big time on Kyle Kempt. In 6 games he's gone...then what? Back to Goober Pyle? ... or will he be gone.
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Yep, Park still with the team and KK would have never seen the field, and OSU would be sitting at 3-5 or something right now.

Funny how a bench warmer only getting in accidentally can make a coach look like a genius.
 
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Hope Campbell doesn’t get to cozy over there in Ames.. win Quick and leave thanks! No need to get all ambitious there with the football program the natives aren’t used to that type of thing.. plus coaches leave ISU and go on to win NC’s just look at good ole Gene C!
 
GPRHAWK said:
Exactly. He'd be a perfect fit which is why they won't hire him.
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All you Hawkeye homere just want Campbell to leave because now you have some serious competition in the state and you are afraid your cozy little program is being passed by one the is on the rise, more exciting to watch, and are winning games. Only things you wish you were doing right now. Befo e you say it is only the Big Twelve, I would gladly trade you schedules this year and see who comes out with more wins. Remember you don't historically do well against teams with any speed at all. Why don't you just worry about your own team and coaches and what ever happens, happens!
 
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HawkIDrummer said:
8-4 is likely now. Skeptical as I've been about the idea that everyone will come after him... Campbell would be a fool not to take an upgrade if offered. With all the losses to graduation...they'll be back to 5 wins next fall.
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Campbell would be a fool to leave since ISU is moving into select company.
 
CyProf said:
All you Hawkeye homere just want Campbell to leave because now you have some serious competition in the state and you are afraid your cozy little program is being passed by one the is on the rise, more exciting to watch, and are winning games. Only things you wish you were doing right now. Befo e you say it is only the Big Twelve, I would gladly trade you schedules this year and see who comes out with more wins. Remember you don't historically do well against teams with any speed at all. Why don't you just worry about your own team and coaches and what ever happens, happens!
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I don’t think anyone here was trying to hide that Cy! He needs to go! We know we got KF & Co til at least 2025 so what makes u ISU people think we wanna see all that excitement and noise in Ames with ur big 6’6 WR’s and DL getting pressure up front and down field passes that get caught?? Bye Campbell! Take all that elsewhere..
 
CyProf said:
All you Hawkeye homere just want Campbell to leave because now you have some serious competition in the state and you are afraid your cozy little program is being passed by one the is on the rise, more exciting to watch, and are winning games. Only things you wish you were doing right now. Befo e you say it is only the Big Twelve, I would gladly trade you schedules this year and see who comes out with more wins. Remember you don't historically do well against teams with any speed at all. Why don't you just worry about your own team and coaches and what ever happens, happens!
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Did you actually mean to reply to me? My reply was about Bret Bielema to Nebraska and has absolutely nothing to do with ISU.
 
HawkIDrummer said:
Apparently all your coaches missed big time on Kyle Kempt. In 6 games he's gone...then what? Back to Goober Pyle? ... or will he be gone.
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Probably be Kempt's backup, if Park doesn't return. Redshirt freshman this year, was actually ahead of Kempt on the depth chart.
 
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CyProf said:
All you Hawkeye homere just want Campbell to leave because now you have some serious competition in the state and you are afraid your cozy little program is being passed by one the is on the rise, more exciting to watch, and are winning games. Only things you wish you were doing right now. Befo e you say it is only the Big Twelve, I would gladly trade you schedules this year and see who comes out with more wins. Remember you don't historically do well against teams with any speed at all. Why don't you just worry about your own team and coaches and what ever happens, happens!
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I want Campbell to stay in Ames. He has a 0% winning percentage against the Hawks!

And I’d gladly trade schedules! Iowa would be 8-0 or 7-1 with your easy Big12 schedule. I honestly don’t know who ISU could beat on Iowa’s schedule so far. Illinois would be your only shot. N Tex & Wyo would have their way with you.
 
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ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
I want Campbell to stay in Ames. He has a 0% winning percentage against the Hawks!

And I’d gladly trade schedules! Iowa would be 8-0 or 7-1 with your easy Big12 schedule. I honestly don’t know who ISU could beat on Iowa’s schedule so far. Illinois would be your only shot. N Tex & Wyo would have their way with you.
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Can’t believe I’m actually replying but there’s no way this is true or that you truly believe it.
 
CyProf said:
All you Hawkeye homere just want Campbell to leave because now you have some serious competition in the state and you are afraid your cozy little program is being passed by one the is on the rise, more exciting to watch, and are winning games. Only things you wish you were doing right now. Befo e you say it is only the Big Twelve, I would gladly trade you schedules this year and see who comes out with more wins. Remember you don't historically do well against teams with any speed at all. Why don't you just worry about your own team and coaches and what ever happens, happens!
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Why don't you go worry about your team over on your site.
 
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ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
I want Campbell to stay in Ames. He has a 0% winning percentage against the Hawks!

And I’d gladly trade schedules! Iowa would be 8-0 or 7-1 with your easy Big12 schedule. I honestly don’t know who ISU could beat on Iowa’s schedule so far. Illinois would be your only shot. N Tex & Wyo would have their way with you.
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You sure about that Rocky mountain? You been drinking too much of that Rocky mountain brew? :)

You may want to check out the ESPN power index; Purdue, Minnesota, Nebraska, Illinois all ranked below #57. B1G West is not exactly a powerhouse. :)

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
 
ISU fans are just like every other fan base - they put together a few big wins and they think their program is the new sh*t of college football that will dominate for years to come. Reality will set in soon enough. As far as I'm concerned, as a college football fan in general, the only thing Iowa St has done this year is made it extremely difficult for the Big 12 to have a CFP team.
 
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
Why the hell would Campbell take the Nebraska job?

Tennessee I could see. But Nebraska? LMAO.
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Nebraska is not good, but...

Nebraska has a higher winning % than Tennessee in the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. Has won more games than UT every decade for going on 70 years.

With that said, neither job is appealing to me if I'm a coach. Two programs who used to be great and can't get it right. Still have very high standards and expectations. Hard to see the upside from the POV of a coach.

And that's why I believe many see Scott Frost as the best option. Going through coaches left and right catches up. If I'm Matt Campbell, F that. I would not blame him even a little bit if he totally looked away from a hypothetical offer from Nebraska. He's at Iowa State who traditionally doesn't have a good football program with much lower standards/expectations, and he has it going on right now. Energizes the entire fanbase, where as our fanbase at Nebraska puts a tremendous amount of pressure on any coach.

Scott Frost is the best option because he wants to be at Nebraska first of all and also he knows more than anyone about the culture. Makes the most sense.
 
ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
Who would ISU beat on our schedule? Illinois would be their only guaranteed win. All the other games would be toss ups & guaranteed losses.
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You’ve got to be joking. I’m going to take a guess and say that you haven’t watched ISU this year, outside of ISU playing Iowa.

ISU has drastically improved since the Iowa game, especially the defense. ISU beats every team on our schedule with the exception of OSU and PSU. I guess I would call Wisconsin a toss up.

If Iowa and ISU were to play again today, ISU beats Iowa.
 
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You’ve got to be joking. I’m going to take a guess and say that you haven’t watched ISU this year, outside of ISU playing Iowa.

ISU has drastically improved since the Iowa game, especially the defense. ISU beats every team on our schedule with the exception of OSU and PSU. I guess I would call Wisconsin a toss up.

If Iowa and ISU were to play again today, ISU beats Iowa.
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We just played 6 weeks ago in their house! We all saw who won. Smh. Maybe I’m in the minority but if two teams are fairly equal the best way to decide who’s better is to play. And we did that.
 
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Nebraska is not good, but...

Nebraska has a higher winning % than Tennessee in the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. Has won more games than UT every decade for going on 70 years.

With that said, neither job is appealing to me if I'm a coach. Two programs who used to be great and can't get it right. Still have very high standards and expectations. Hard to see the upside from the POV of a coach.

And that's why I believe many see Scott Frost as the best option. Going through coaches left and right catches up. If I'm Matt Campbell, F that. I would not blame him even a little bit if he totally looked away from a hypothetical offer from Nebraska. He's at Iowa State who traditionally doesn't have a good football program with much lower standards/expectations, and he has it going on right now. Energizes the entire fanbase, where as our fanbase at Nebraska puts a tremendous amount of pressure on any coach.

Scott Frost is the best option because he wants to be at Nebraska first of all and also he knows more than anyone about the culture. Makes the most sense.
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The notion that Frost wants to be coaching at Nebraska is at best an unconfirmed rumor and at worst an outright lie. Lincoln lately has been a vortex of futility and a place where respectable coaches careers get to die. Frost better think it over long and hard if the opportunity presents itself. It’s certainly not a slam dunk that he’ll drop everything just because the huskers want him there.
 
Obviously Oblivious said:
Ray1125 said:
Nebraska is not good, but...

Nebraska has a higher winning % than Tennessee in the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. Has won more games than UT every decade for going on 70 years.

With that said, neither job is appealing to me if I'm a coach. Two programs who used to be great and can't get it right. Still have very high standards and expectations. Hard to see the upside from the POV of a coach.

And that's why I believe many see Scott Frost as the best option. Going through coaches left and right catches up. If I'm Matt Campbell, F that. I would not blame him even a little bit if he totally looked away from a hypothetical offer from Nebraska. He's at Iowa State who traditionally doesn't have a good football program with much lower standards/expectations, and he has it going on right now. Energizes the entire fanbase, where as our fanbase at Nebraska puts a tremendous amount of pressure on any coach.

Scott Frost is the best option because he wants to be at Nebraska first of all and also he knows more than anyone about the culture. Makes the most sense.
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The notion that Frost wants to be coaching at Nebraska is at best an unconfirmed rumor and at worst an outright lie. Lincoln lately has been a vortex of futility and a place where respectable coaches careers get to die. Frost better think it over long and hard if the opportunity presents itself. It’s certainly not a slam dunk that he’ll drop everything just because the huskers want him there.
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Scott Frost would come to Nebraska, guaranteed.
 
ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
We just played 6 weeks ago in their house! We all saw who won. Smh. Maybe I’m in the minority but if two teams are fairly equal the best way to decide who’s better is to play. And we did that.
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We have moved to a gated community that you can't currently get into.
 
That is just classic thinking among all you tavern hawks ( you hawk fans that did not even graduate from the place and yet are delusional fanatics ). Just because you spend a lot of money on coaches and facilities, you think that should somehow guarantee you some position in college football. From where I sit, all it has gotten you is consistent mediocrity. Not exactly something to write home to mom about, oh but I forgot you did not graduate from the place and may have difficulty writing that letter in the first place :)
 
Ray1125 said:
Nebraska is not good, but...

Nebraska has a higher winning % than Tennessee in the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. Has won more games than UT every decade for going on 70 years.

With that said, neither job is appealing to me if I'm a coach. Two programs who used to be great and can't get it right. Still have very high standards and expectations. Hard to see the upside from the POV of a coach.

And that's why I believe many see Scott Frost as the best option. Going through coaches left and right catches up. If I'm Matt Campbell, F that. I would not blame him even a little bit if he totally looked away from a hypothetical offer from Nebraska. He's at Iowa State who traditionally doesn't have a good football program with much lower standards/expectations, and he has it going on right now. Energizes the entire fanbase, where as our fanbase at Nebraska puts a tremendous amount of pressure on any coach.

Scott Frost is the best option because he wants to be at Nebraska first of all and also he knows more than anyone about the culture. Makes the most sense.
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Good post and good information.

However...

I wasn't basing the attraction of the Nebraska and Tennessee jobs off team history and winning percentages. (I was a teenager in the 1990s and remember the heyday of Nebraska football quite well.) While I agree neither program is ideal, the Nebraska job is less attractive IMHO because of geography and the instability of the job (which albeit is everywhere but particularly bad at Nebraska). Plus, let's be real: the B1G West is pretty weak. I'm just not sure Matt Campbell would see the Nebraska job as a significant move upward.

The Tennessee job isn't much better. However, you have warmer weather and a more fertile recruiting ground. Plus, even though the SEC is down by their standards this year, there is still a certain level of prestige that comes with coaching in the SEC.

All that said, my honest guess is Matt Campbell will be coaching at ISU next year (I highly emphasize guess).
 
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