Universal Healthcare solves all these issues, whatever the accurate number actually is.
Over $100,000,000,000.00 in “improper payments” ie Fraud, from Medicare+Medicaid in 2023
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Wait a sec. They found $100 billion in "fraud" in a week? Bullcrap.
Medicare is millions of payouts to thousands, if not millions of providers. It's an incredibly complex system of medical codes.
Let's say for fun that the average fraudulent claim is $5,000. That's 20 million claims. Heck, make it $25,000 per claim - that's 4 million claims.
If there is fraud, I hope they find it and figured how it happened. But, I'm pretty sure it's going to take more than a week.
Medicare is millions of payouts to thousands, if not millions of providers. It's an incredibly complex system of medical codes.
Let's say for fun that the average fraudulent claim is $5,000. That's 20 million claims. Heck, make it $25,000 per claim - that's 4 million claims.
If there is fraud, I hope they find it and figured how it happened. But, I'm pretty sure it's going to take more than a week.
Due to lack of staffing, some of the cuckoos have escaped the nest.
Please bear with us as we try and round them up. Until then, please ignore their rabid comments.
Is this how United Health Group turned into a $500,000,000,000 company?
Yes you read that right, $500B.
All perfectly legal!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
That’s just one crooked ass insurer!
Seems reasonable. The incestuous relationship between healthcare providers, insurers, and government regulators is out of control.
Healthcare is one big racket designed to benefit the shareholders.
There is zero point zero percent chance the industry isn’t scamming Medicaid & Medicare in a serious way.
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This. Elon has a history of throwing out grandiose claims. Look at his time estimates for new model launches…always wrong - usually by years. Look at his pricing claims, his claims on batteries life etc. He is ALWAYS overselling what is possible. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing when he is innovating and driving real technical progress. But it is his modus operandi.
So knowing that he is likely inflating estimates let’s look at feasibility. How, in the span of a week or two, could DOGE identify true fraud?
I assume to receive a fraudulent Medicare payment you would have to have a provider overcharge the government for services rendered right? That would then require a detailed analysis of the patient’s medical history, procedures performed, prescriptions required etc. Not exactly the type of thing a 19 year old with zero medical knowledge is going to be able to decipher in like 8 working days. Certainly not at the scale purported.
I have no doubt that given enough time Musk and crew will find fraud. I hope they do to root it out, but all the MAGA dumbasses taking him at his word on this? F*cking morons.
This is affirmed fraud and abuse? Highly doubtful…if this is “Medicaid” it is run by the individual states not the Fed… example…. Tge Stare of Iowa is responsible for administrating its MedicAid program… Several years ago, the State (Kim) decided to turn the administration of the program over “the private sector”….Kim has refused to furnish Iowans with “the numbers” for this “privatized” MedicAid program.
Genius computer nerds with no knowledge of insurance or government programs uncover billions in improper payments-sure, right.
Are you so blinded that you don't see the irony in your post?!?
As with EVERY......SINGLE..... ONE....of these "Fraud" Claims, I'll be the first in line cheering WHEN they show their work on what exactly the fraud was.
You blindly accepting this bloviating as truth is WAY WORSE than initially calling it BS.
Show the work brother Elon so your followers may revel in your absolute brilliance!
Government is the problem, not the solution. All this grift is occurring through government.
Per my note, "they" did not "find" anything.
They retweeted a 2024 GAO study. And some of what GAO "Found" (really, estimated through sampling and extrapolation, because it makes a much better headline) involved underpayments to providers. Also, in full disclosure, one the other things GAO 'found' was that things were improving over the preceding years.
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Here's the problem with that,.. Accept for the moment the ballpark premise that currently approximately 1/4 of the population has "excellent" health care, a second 1/4 has "okay" health care, a third 1/4 has "marginal" health care, and the final 1/4 has "zero" health care,.. If the goal of Universal Healthcare is to maintain current health care spending, while simultaneously providing an equal level of care for everyone, the result will be a system that delivers an "okay" to "marginal" level of service,... All of us will have the same thing, but most of us won't like it,... And no, we can't afford "excellent" for everyone.
I guess we should be surprised, covid handout fraud was huge as well.
Catch these people and lock them up. Or deport to Mexico.
Only idiots laugh at their own tax dollars being handed to criminals.
and hypothetically, if you got into a dispute about your care, would you rather fight with your insurance company, or with the FBI.
Just go to the oig.hhs.gov site and look at 2023 numbers. Then eat your bullshit.
Is there fraud in Medicare, Medicaid, and the health care system in general? Absolutely.
Should we do everything we can to tix it? Absolutely.
Did DOGE find $100 billion in fraud already? LOL, no.
Could they find this without illegal access to personal, private information? No.
Jesus, MAGAs. Use your goddam brains, just once. Stop believing every single thing they tell you.
Should we do everything we can to tix it? Absolutely.
Did DOGE find $100 billion in fraud already? LOL, no.
Could they find this without illegal access to personal, private information? No.
Jesus, MAGAs. Use your goddam brains, just once. Stop believing every single thing they tell you.
The GOA statement and this accounting is from April 2024. Literally a report from the Biden Presidency on eliminating waste.
Medicare could save an additional $10 billion a year on the negotiated pricing Trump stopped.
not by settlement amount, though that can be a highly dubious method for evaluating the merits of a fraud claim.
lol.
The short answer is "because that's what the statute says."
The long answer is that Medicare developed as an analog to traditional BC policies which were largely focused on acute health care indemnity events, and thus the skilled nursing home benefit under Medicare is limited to a 100-day post hospitalization stay. Long term care was what "families" provided to aging relatives.
On the other hand, long term care had often been the province of state institutions historically, and of course Medicaid is a poverty based program rather than an insurance program, and impoverished populations may have had fewer resources and structures to care for an aging relative in the 60s. And if there's one thing long term care is good at, it's impoverishment.
Being a hospital janitor most likely doesn't make you an expert on the subject...
Hey, you mind going somewhere else with that well reasoned, non-hyperbolic take on the situation.
This place has standards.
honestly, i'm a little amazed at how people keep going and on in this thread detached from the reality of teh tweet, even when specifically informed of the reality of the tweet.
This does not bode well for Chis, who comes out of Aardvark jail tonight. Glad to have you back C-man.
U you said that earlier and I’ve been befuddled reading the crap after your post.😂😂
