Pat Chambers

[hawksauce]

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/1460834/641723

It's really hard to hate Pat. Reminds me of Fran during his first few years here. The junk officiating that goes on inside Breslin is criminal.

 

[DanL53]

The officiating in the Big Ten is criminal. Just made it worse that for a while this year we enjoyed some good games.

We're just stuck enjoying a sport that includes a lot of game fixing. Just like boxing in the 1950's.

 

[Mohawkeye]

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/1460834/641723

It's really hard to hate Pat. Reminds me of Fran during his first few years here. The junk officiating that goes on inside Breslin is criminal.

Yep. The crap Izzo gets away with is a double standard. I respect a coach who stands up for his players. We've had some that didn't.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

John Higgins and Bo Borowski are doing the game. Enough said.

 

[DanL53]

http://btn.com/2016/02/28/watch-patrick-chambers-get-ejected-at-michigan-state/

Please watch last years Press Conference. "This has to stop. I'm not a Hall of Fame Coach. I've always believed you have to play hard enough to take the officials out of the equation. But this, this has to stop."

That's as much an indictment of the favoritism in the Big Ten as you can ask for.

 

[Scott559]

another team/coach get's "Izzo'd", I like the fact that Chambers will not just stand by and watch it happen. Will it change anything, No, But it does bring attention to what everyone in the Big knows takes place.

 

[hawksauce]

http://btn.com/2016/02/28/watch-patrick-chambers-get-ejected-at-michigan-state/

Please watch last years Press Conference. "This has to stop. I'm not a Hall of Fame Coach. I've always believed you have to play hard enough to take the officials out of the equation. But this, this has to stop."

That's as much an indictment of the favoritism in the Big Ten as you can ask for.

 

[SotaHawk87]

The shit eating grin on Izzos face when he got tossed was the worst part

 

[Scott559]

The shit eating grin on Izzos face when he got tossed was the worst part

I prefer the Izzo vs Iowa look from this year.

 

[JakeSpartan]

Iowa was called for 3 fewer fouls in Breslin than MSU was, and 7 fewer at home. +11 at the line in 2 games, even with Woodbury pulling a guy down from the back.

MSU had only 3 less fouls than PSU today.

If you want to see criminal, look at MSUs bogus loss at UW where the FTs were 36-16 in a 1 point game.

Chambers was mad because his team had their asses handed to them and no amount of officiating would save them.

The numbers say it's nothing but a bunch of sour grapes in this thread that were hoping for a PSU upset.

 

[DanL53]

Iowa was called for 3 fewer fouls in Breslin than MSU was, and 7 fewer at home. +11 at the line in 2 games, even with Woodbury pulling a guy down from the back.

MSU had only 3 less fouls than PSU today.

If you want to see criminal, look at MSUs bogus loss at UW where the FTs were 36-16 in a 1 point game.

Chambers was mad because his team had their asses handed to them and no amount of officiating would save them.

The numbers say it's nothing but a bunch of sour grapes in this thread that were hoping for a PSU upset.

Jake. If Michigan State commits 50 fouls and gets called for fifteen, and Iowa commits 25 and gets called for thirteen, who is getting ripped off? Besides that, some teams are made for physical contact (hockey) games, some are made for basketball.

Iowa did well against you guys for a change because the refs were calling fouls and allowing freedom of movement. But that has changed recently. Very noticeably.

 

[Pepperman]

Good point Dan... I don't like MSU physical play because eventually the refs swallow their whistles. If they call all of the fouls, MSU loses a lot more games.

 

[hawksauce]

Iowa was called for 3 fewer fouls in Breslin than MSU was, and 7 fewer at home. +11 at the line in 2 games, even with Woodbury pulling a guy down from the back.

MSU had only 3 less fouls than PSU today.

If you want to see criminal, look at MSUs bogus loss at UW where the FTs were 36-16 in a 1 point game.

Chambers was mad because his team had their asses handed to them and no amount of officiating would save them.

The numbers say it's nothing but a bunch of sour grapes in this thread that were hoping for a PSU upset.

A sample of Michigan States defense towards the end of every single season.

 

[MrIowa94]

They lost by 30.

I'm gonna go ahead and not blame the refs for that.

 

[Drmac22]

Jake,., MSU was in the double bonus in the first quarter with 5 mins left before half. PSU was not even in the bonus. They adjusted it in the second half after the game was out of reach. Thats why Chambers got tossed. PSU had 3 starters with 3 fouls in the first half.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

The officiating in the Big Ten is criminal. Just made it worse that for a while this year we enjoyed some good games.

We're just stuck enjoying a sport that includes a lot of game fixing. Just like boxing in the 1950's.

C'mon DanL. B1G officials are incompetent, inconsistent, gutless and intimidated by certain coaches. Do you really believe they are on the take? If so, please describe how these payoffs are made. Paperbag in a dark alley?

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

They aren't on the take. I think it's more of a good ol boys club instead of finding the most talented officials there are. Nobody can tell me there aren't better officials than Bo Borowski. For god sakes Jim Burr was still doing big time games last year at about 90 years old.

 

[SotaHawk87]

Iowa was called for 3 fewer fouls in Breslin than MSU was, and 7 fewer at home. +11 at the line in 2 games, even with Woodbury pulling a guy down from the back.

MSU had only 3 less fouls than PSU today.

If you want to see criminal, look at MSUs bogus loss at UW where the FTs were 36-16 in a 1 point game.

Chambers was mad because his team had their asses handed to them and no amount of officiating would save them.

The numbers say it's nothing but a bunch of sour grapes in this thread that were hoping for a PSU upset.

The rest of the Big 10 respectfully disagrees..

 

[Mohawkeye]

Iowa was called for 3 fewer fouls in Breslin than MSU was, and 7 fewer at home. +11 at the line in 2 games, even with Woodbury pulling a guy down from the back.

MSU had only 3 less fouls than PSU today.

If you want to see criminal, look at MSUs bogus loss at UW where the FTs were 36-16 in a 1 point game.

Chambers was mad because his team had their asses handed to them and no amount of officiating would save them.

The numbers say it's nothing but a bunch of sour grapes in this thread that were hoping for a PSU upset.

Lazy analysis. Izzo has his guys play tougher because he knows at the end of the game the refs will not make the calls. And Izzo is always in the refs ear without being called for a T. Fran or Chambers gets in their face like that and they are kicked out.

 

[StormHawk42]

They aren't on the take. I think it's more of a good ol boys club instead of finding the most talented officials there are. Nobody can tell me there aren't better officials than Bo Borowski. For god sakes Jim Burr was still doing big time games last year at about 90 years old.

As a high school official, this my biggest gripe about the big time colleges. During the entire course of the B1G schedule, we see maybe a dozen different officials. Each of those officials is working 3-5 games a week in multiple states. There is no variety and the officials get tired just like the players.

Having said that, Chambers was asking to get tossed because his team was getting worked by MSU and the final score reflects it.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

They aren't on the take. I think it's more of a good ol boys club instead of finding the most talented officials there are. Nobody can tell me there aren't better officials than Bo Borowski. For god sakes Jim Burr was still doing big time games last year at about 90 years old.

What happened to him? I remember him officiating and then last year he did not work any games? just wondering if anyone had anything on the story? Now he's back and I think he has done a good job in the games I have watched him ref. Its only a hand full, so not too many.

 

[Franisdaman]

From http://www.pennlive.com/sports/inde...chambers_ejected_penn.html#incart_2box_sports

...late in the first half of what would be an 88-57 defeat, he became enraged at a ticky-tack foul call on his star Brandon Taylor. It ended badly for Chambers.

On the play, Taylor briefly wrapped an arm around MSU defender Deyonta Davis on the left low block as he prepared to accept an entry pass. Official Bo Boroski, watching the play from that baseline, called nothing. But official Tom Eades whistled it from across the floor.

The PSU coach first vehemently protested the call, then exploded when he was given a technical. As he was physically restrained by his assistant coaches, Chambers launched into a tirade at Eades that appeared to include an obscenity-laced personal directive.

Two factors entered into the dynamics of the conflict:

1. Coaches of lower-echelon programs often believe, and many times rightly so, that marquee programs and coaches such as Michigan State and Tom Izzo, get the benefit of borderline calls. Chambers said as much after his technicals last year at Michigan State and Maryland and was soon after supported in his assertion by none other than ESPN's Jay Bilas. This was a game Chambers knew he wasn't winning anyway; the Lions were already down 35-18. It was a good time to make a point even if it costs him a fine and suspension.

2. Though he has worked multiple Final Fours and is well respected, Eades is known as something of a flamboyant official. The Kentucky native has spent a lot of his career doing SEC games but lately has taken on Big Ten assignments after a league shake-up down south. Last season, he created a dust-up when a video caught him apparently yelling, "Boom!" as he made the technical signal in ringing up Nebraska's Shavon Shields. Coaches don't like it when a ref make calls from outside his area anyway. When Eades made this one, some verbal exchange ensued and Chambers was not backing down.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Officiating is never going to change in the B1G, never.

 

[McK_Hawk]

If you don't think the officials are influenced by Mr Izzo during a game, watch near the end of the most recent MSU-Wisconsin game. Camera is on a wide angle so you can see all the players. There is a scramble for a loose ball and the MSU player on the floor has it and is trying not to get tied up. The trailing official is standing right in front of Izzo at halfcourt. You can see and hear Izzo scream for a timeout. At the same time, that official holds up his hand, blows the whistle and calls timeout. No MSU players called for a time out. Just sayin.

Best thing the conference could do is make both benches (players and coaches) stay seated while the game is live. Coaches would be allowed to stand during dead balls. This would cut down on a coach being in a ref's ear while he is supposed to be calling the game. Izzo is one of the best at this practice, and it shows.

 

[DanL53]

C'mon DanL. B1G officials are incompetent, inconsistent, gutless and intimidated by certain coaches. Do you really believe they are on the take? If so, please describe how these payoffs are made. Paperbag in a dark alley?

Epenesa answered you very well.

 

[gojojo]

I'm still trying to see where the foul is. The guy he called the foul on is not within 2 feet of anyone