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I know a lot of people are impressed with his play, but for a freshman to have the court awareness last night during that last play was unreal!
With the game on the line and having grabbed the O rebound you might think a Freshman might try to be the hero and force a shot thru traffic to tie the game.
Instead of forcing it however CP calmly finds JB on the wing for the winning shot! I thought that was pretty damn impressive for a freshman. This kid is going to be a flat out beast in the next 3 years. Wait til he hits the weightroom and adds about 10lbs of muscle on that frame. He is going to be a load down low and a big problem for the rest of the B1G.
 
I know a lot of people are impressed with his play, but for a freshman to have the court awareness last night during that last play was unreal!
With the game on the line and having grabbed the O rebound you might think a Freshman might try to be the hero and force a shot thru traffic to tie the game.
Instead of forcing it however CP calmly finds JB on the wing for the winning shot! I thought that was pretty damn impressive for a freshman. This kid is going to be a flat out beast in the next 3 years. Wait til he hits the weightroom and adds about 10lbs of muscle on that frame. He is going to be a load down low and a big problem for the rest of the B1G.

I agree....all our freshman are pretty good but I can't wait for Cordell to get an off season under his belt where he's not recuperating from injury. He will have a chance to work on conditioning and add the outside shot to his game.
 
I like Pemsl as long as he and his teammates continue to understand how to use him: Penetrate into the lane, draw the defense then dish to him for a layup. His lack of vertical makes it hard for him to be effective when we throw it down to him on the block and he has to create his own opportunities.

For a guy his size he has some moves and quickness but man, can he not jump. Obviously a byproduct of his past leg injuries.
 
I like Pemsl as long as he and his teammates continue to understand how to use him: Penetrate into the lane, draw the defense then dish to him for a layup. His lack of vertical makes it hard for him to be effective when we throw it down to him on the block and he has to create his own opportunities.

For a guy his size he has some moves and quickness but man, can he not jump. Obviously a byproduct of his past leg injuries.

I disagree, I've been very impressed with his post moves this year. He had a great move last night on a quick post up on Happ on a secondary break. Hit Happ, who is a terrific defender, with a great fake and got a lay up on him.
 
I disagree, I've been very impressed with his post moves this year. He had a great move last night on a quick post up on Happ on a secondary break. Hit Happ, who is a terrific defender, with a great fake and got a lay up on him.

Don't totally disagree with ya-he did have a great move last night but it seems like for every great move he makes like last night when he's chest to chest with his defender he gets 2 shots blocked due to his vertical challenges. Still really like him and he'll only get more savvy down low with time.
 
You do not need to be a leaper on the block if you have post moves and footwork, which he does and then some. He is the gritty glue guy that will get you buckets in tough games later in his career. With most opponents focusing on cook/bohannon he and bear will be big in the upcoming years.
 
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Don't totally disagree with ya-he did have a great move last night but it seems like for every great move he makes like last night when he's chest to chest with his defender he gets 2 shots blocked due to his vertical challenges. Still really like him and he'll only get more savvy down low with time.
his shooting %'s would beg to differ. you are basically saying that he is a 33% shooter, which is not the case. He gets few blocked. His post game is senior level.
 
I also really like the role Pemsl is in right now, and think he can grow into even more over the next few years. When he was starting earlier in the year, it would lead Fran to some really unbalanced line ups as he rested his starters, any Williams-Uhl-Wagner- Ellingson group is going to struggle to score. Pemsl can be a very good off bench scorer, I think he will develop into a guy you can run possessions through as his passing improves, especially if he's paired with Kreiner or Garza going forward, a big who can also step out and hit the elbow jumper.
 
I'd add that at the end of the timeout at the 34.6 second mark, that Pemsl pulled Cook aside and told him (pretty clearly from the vantage point of TV from what I could tell) that if he gets the rebound, to kick it back out. This is exactly what Pemsl did about 1 minute later for the game winner. He is a very smart, astute player.

Cordell is an outstanding asset. Love what he brings to the table.
 
Two knee surgeries and a two foot steel plate in your leg does kinda affect your jumping a bit. Give him time.

Can't imagine what his problem is.....never affected this guy's vertical:
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I'd add that at the end of the timeout at the 34.6 second mark, that Pemsl pulled Cook aside and told him (pretty clearly from the vantage point of TV from what I could tell) that if he gets the rebound, to kick it back out. This is exactly what Pemsl did about 1 minute later for the game winner. He is a very smart, astute player.

Cordell is an outstanding asset. Love what he brings to the table.
I saw that too.
 
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Cordell is already a handful. Once Cordell's baby fat turns to muscle and he improves the experience part of his game that kid will be a major low post offensive threat. He has the body to be a solid rebounder as well. Hard to get around a guy his size that learns how to box out and then works hard at it.

If these kids improve Iowa will be big and deep for the next four seasons.
 
I love his offense but felt he was a liability at the line. He's improved that and is an asset beyond his grade. Looking forward to three more years.
 
Ditto to all these comments. Plus the kid plays with an attitude and a swagger that's rare for a freshman. Cook has it too.
 
This plus the good hands make him very athletic in my view. He's got great body control, which just isn't the type of "athletic" that some people give a guy credit for.

Body control and spatial/visual awareness around him. He knows where guys are, defenders and his teammates, and he makes great decisions, most of the time, regarding who has the higher shot percentage opportunity, my open or lightly guarded teammate or me? He makes great assessments lightning quick. He doesn't seem to need to make the "conceptual" move to translate and interpret what he sees to the possibilities he can imagine working; his body just "knows" and when he moves the ball, passing or dribbling, he knows where to go. It's not just his ability with the footwork, it's knowing how to creatively put together moves to get a defender out of position for high percentage (for him) shot. He has an uncanny ability to make layups while on the move even when he is being fairly well guarded. I think he has the highest IQ on the court whenever he's out there.

I think Ahmad Wagner also has a high basketball IQ. The only difference is that he has struggled to believe he's as good as he is. You saw it on that one move to the basket against Wisconsin in the last two minutes. He flashes it occasionally or for stretches, but not consistently. It's as if ... he forgets. Or maybe it's matchup problems, defensive formations or tactics. If he "gets it," though, he could be a force coming from the wing. Like a "power wing." He drives well, incredible burst for his size, and can play D against some larger opponents and some smaller opponents. No outside shot, but excellent within one-to-five feet from basket or by driving to the basket from the high post or from three-point range. Offseason, he should work on stand-still jumping ability. He's got a good running leap, but he's closer to average when it comes to standing and (repeatedly) jumping for contested rebounds after a missed shot. I think he bodies well, he's just undersized and has a less-than-explosive stand-still jump. It's almost as if he's not using his muscles effectively in those situations, like he's somehow negating his natural athleticism. It looks odd to see him moving as athletically as he does at times and then look almost sheepish at others. He goes into beast mode for three minutes and then disappears for the next five--or until you realize someone has been substituted for him without your notice. So ... there's that.
 
Cordell is also pretty young for a D1 college freshman basketball player. He was never held back a year like so many kids are these days, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that he is about the same age or even a few weeks younger than one or two of our guys for next year (Garza, McCaffery, etc.) He's still a teenager. I may be wrong, but I think that adds to his upside.
 
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Two knee surgeries and a two foot steel plate in your leg does kinda affect your jumping a bit. Give him time.


Just think how good he would have been without those injuries i know before the injuries he was a top150. But I'm not sure he will ever have a big vertical. But his arms look like a guy who's a senior he's strong! And leads the B10 in shooting percentage, i don't understand how some of his shots go in, like others have said just amazing footwork.
 
I like Pemsl as long as he and his teammates continue to understand how to use him: Penetrate into the lane, draw the defense then dish to him for a layup. His lack of vertical makes it hard for him to be effective when we throw it down to him on the block and he has to create his own opportunities.

For a guy his size he has some moves and quickness but man, can he not jump. Obviously a byproduct of his past leg injuries.

Hes leading the conference in feild goal percentage, so.......bad take.
 
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I'd add that at the end of the timeout at the 34.6 second mark, that Pemsl pulled Cook aside and told him (pretty clearly from the vantage point of TV from what I could tell) that if he gets the rebound, to kick it back out. This is exactly what Pemsl did about 1 minute later for the game winner. He is a very smart, astute player.

Cordell is an outstanding asset. Love what he brings to the table.

Being down 1, that wouldn't really make sense to plan to kick it out.

It worked because where he got the rebound he had a perfect angle to pass to JBO.
 
Being down 1, that wouldn't really make sense to plan to kick it out.

It worked because where he got the rebound he had a perfect angle to pass to JBO.
A put back attempt would likely result in a mugging, and as we know you cannot count on B1G refs to make that call at the end of the game. Better to find the open man.
 
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Not just footwork but body control as well which makes his excellent in the low post. I don't understand the people who think his minutes will go down next year.
As I said before, I love Cordell and what he brings to the lineup. Just think that going forward the five spot will be more often handled by Kreiner, and Garza, who are both much longer than Cordell, and have a more varied offensive game. That leaves him fighting Cook for minutes, and Cook won't be on the bench much, unless he's in foul trouble. Yes Fran can have Cordell at the four and Cook at the five, but their both low block players. Maybe one or both develop a nice mid range jumper, and that helps open up the lane more for the other. The thing is Kreiner already has that in his arsenal, and supposedly so does Garza. I'm just going off what we see now from their games.
 
Kreiner needs to improve his footwork and post moves before his minutes increase. Kreiner was a defensive liability against Wisconsin because he lacks the footwork to move well laterally at this point and Wisconsin players got past him with one move. Kreiner isn't as strong around the basket yet either as Pemsl is. In time Kreiner's footwork and strength may catch up or surpass Pemsl but I don't see him challenging Pemsl for more minutes next year.
 
Kreiner needs to improve his footwork and post moves before his minutes increase. Kreiner was a defensive liability against Wisconsin because he lacks the footwork to move well laterally at this point and Wisconsin players got past him with one move. Kreiner isn't as strong around the basket yet either as Pemsl is. In time Kreiner's footwork and strength may catch up or surpass Pemsl but I don't see him challenging Pemsl for more minutes next year.
I'd agree that Kreiner has struggled coming down the stretch more than some of the other freshmen. I think he's hitting the freshmen wall at a different time then the other first year players.I also think his minutes have been very limited lately, and its affecting his play. I would remind you that Ryan missed most of the preseason and PTL because of injury and illness. I think the offseason will do him a world of good. Look there's no reason going back and forth on this. You may be 100% right and Cordell will play a lot more then Ryan. Just think that Kreiner is a better fit at the five, as is Garza. Either way its nice that Fran has so many frontcourt options. Now if he can figure out the two. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the switch comes on for Moss. He seems to have all the talent needed to be a dynamic player. He just needs to believe in himself I think.
 
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Cordell's inside moves are great and his instincts with the ball are great. Have to agree with everyone that has noticed Cordell knows what to do on the floor.

Iowa will have tremendous depth and versatility inside.
 
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Don't totally disagree with ya-he did have a great move last night but it seems like for every great move he makes like last night when he's chest to chest with his defender he gets 2 shots blocked due to his vertical challenges. Still really like him and he'll only get more savvy down low with time.

If you're going to play down low, you're going to get shots blocked. The key is not letting it affect your next chance. He doesn't. Short memory and great basketball IQ. And I do think his physical ability will get better when he can spend a whole off season working on his conditioning. Same thing with JBO and Bear. They don't miss a couple of shots and then crawl into a hole and hide. Love it.
 
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A put back attempt would likely result in a mugging, and as we know you cannot count on B1G refs to make that call at the end of the game. Better to find the open man.

It depends entirely on where you get the rebound and if there is an open man and where he is.

You dont plan anything specific down by 1 on a rebound, you just get the best shot thats available.
 
I'd agree that Kreiner has struggled coming down the stretch more than some of the other freshmen. I think he's hitting the freshmen wall at a different time then the other first year players.I also think his minutes have been very limited lately, and its affecting his play. I would remind you that Ryan missed most of the preseason and PTL because of injury and illness. I think the offseason will do him a world of good. Look there's no reason going back and forth on this. You may be 100% right and Cordell will play a lot more then Ryan. Just think that Kreiner is a better fit at the five, as is Garza. Either way its nice that Fran has so many frontcourt options. Now if he can figure out the two. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the switch comes on for Moss. He seems to have all the talent needed to be a dynamic player. He just needs to believe in himself I think.

The biggest thing thats holding Kriener back right now is lack of minutes.

Its close to impossible for a freshman to figure anything out playing so sporadically.
 
Cordell runs the floor well for the fast break post up and has Brunner type moves down low he also sets good screens and rolls to the basket well

He needs to learn that elbow jump shot and his offense game will be complete
 
What I like is that Pemsl, Kriener and Wagner have all had big moments throughout conference play. They've each had some periods where they've struggled but they all keep working and supporting each other. No one hanging their head. That might be the one characteristic being most overlooked about this team. They really like each other and you can see character oozing out of all of them. A lot of teams have talent but to win conference championships you need that toughness and grit. That along with the character of these guys individually gets me most excited about the future.
 
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