Seriously you used to be smarter than this.
WTF Corporate greed?
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Seriously you used to be smarter than this.
It almost seems like the pop companies are taking the tobacco route. It's a declining category so let's just price the shit out of the products for addictsI may or may not be in charge of doing price changes at a certain store that used to have a smile in every aisle, but the upcoming price changes for pepsi and frito lay that take effect Feb 25 are insane.
No way these inflated costs are going to the workersAnd this is the deal. If people STOP BUYING the product and it goes past the sell by date then the market has spoken in a definitive way.
But consumers are paying higher prices for everything because the cost of producing, packaging, marketing and distributing everything has climbed so much. Every step adds new costs. And a large part of that is increased cost of labor.
I can’t complain about paying $6.59 for a jar of mayonnaise when I support the labor costs. I know those employees have to buy food too. Not going to begrudge them a decent wage.
It’s everywhere now.
It's a weird strategy. I like pop and used to always keep some in my fridge when it was $2.50 a 12 pack. But now I simply don't drink any. Seems weird to price casual drinkers like me outIt almost seems like the pop companies are taking the tobacco route. It's a declining category so let's just price the shit out of the products for addicts
I never buy soda unless it's on sale - tho of course the sales aren't as good as they once wereGood - the prices for soft drinks and chips seem to have gone up a lot more than other products. I get that all companies were taking advantage of the opportunity to raise their prices and cite "inflation" as the cause, but they really took advantage.
I don't drink sodas any more, but the cost for a 12-pack of sodas is ~$8 now, when you used to be able to get them for 2/$5. And a bag of potato chips is now ~$5 for Lays, Doritos, etc. I quit buying Frito-Lay stuff unless I see them on a big sale. The retail price just isn't worth it for what you're getting.
Seriously you used to be smarter than this.
WTF Corporate greed?
They’re paying a much larger amount for labor now, their raw materials suppliers are paying a ton more, the fuel for those Pepsi trucks is a lot more, insurance costs have skyrocketed.No, goldmom says they're not gouging
Step back at the end of the aisle where chips are stocked and you see just how much space they take up now with the explosion in what is called the “salty snack”category. Grocery chains realize how much they have to allocate now for shelf space. Did you guys notice products that weren’t around ten years ago like all the “Skinny Pop” stuff and flavored rice cakes that “extend the category” as it’s termed? So many more things to cram on to those shelves. So the chains realized that they could charge for “center shelf” exposure if Frito wanted that prize “eye level” space where studies have shown most consumers look first.It almost seems like the pop companies are taking the tobacco route. It's a declining category so let's just price the shit out of the products for addicts
No way these inflated costs are going to the workers
Step back at the end of the aisle where chips are stocked and you see just how much space they take up now with the explosion in what is called the “salty snack”category. Grocery chains realize how much they have to allocate now for shelf space. Did you guys notice products that weren’t around ten years ago like all the “Skinny Pop” stuff and flavored rice cakes that “extend the category” as it’s termed? So many more things to cram on to those shelves. So the chains realized that they could charge for “center shelf” exposure if Frito wanted that prize “eye level” space where studies have shown most consumers look first.
BTW Frito/Lay delivery drivers do the shelf stocking as do the Pepsi drivers.
(Full disclosure my late husband was a Marketing Director for Frito Lay in Dallas back in the late 80’s for two years, before he was recruited away by another consumer products company who moved us to Michigan.)
Sharing all this makes me laugh because the kids and I used to have to go into all the different chain grocery stores with him on vacations to see the displays and pricing. We still laugh at those memories of them as kids rolling their eyes in the back seat when we’d pull into a King Soopers or Safeway somewhere.
Good times. 😂
And so many of those workers have 401K’s that the company matches at some level - and PepsiCo is a very reliable choice to include in those 401’s.Some are...most is going to go to support the stock price.
Agree but often those are specific end aisle promos tied in to special events. Like Doritos/Salsa now for the football playoffs. Whose grocery store doesn’t have some sort of a setup like that right now?Or simply pay to be at the end of the action aisle that has most of the traffic.
I don’t drink much soda because frankly it’s unhealthy.It's a weird strategy. I like pop and used to always keep some in my fridge when it was $2.50 a 12 pack. But now I simply don't drink any. Seems weird to price casual drinkers like me out
this is why i love going to trader joes.. Did you guys notice products that weren’t around ten years ago like all the “Skinny Pop” stuff and flavored rice cakes that “extend the category” as it’s termed? So many more things to cram on to those shelves. So the chains realized that they could charge for “center shelf” exposure
I’m also a Trader Joe’s fan and Aldi too.’this is why i love going to trader joes.
You have 6-7 aisles of product. There is no space for 20 different varieties of every item.
I can get in and out with my shopping complete in 15-20 minutes.
They dont have self checkouts and i always seems to get twice the amount of items for the same price i do when i leave hyvee or fareway.
During the recent auto worker strikes, it came out that labor is less than 5% of new vehicle costs. It is likely many other products have similar numbers. Sure, there are labor intensive products, but labor to produce PepsiCo offerings is prolly minimal.No way these inflated costs are going to the workers
And so many of those workers have 401K’s that the company matches at some level - and PepsiCo is a very reliable choice to include in those 401’s.
Over time you’d be ahead. And you also have by law a lot of control over your 401.I work at Walmart...if they took all their profit and instead of paying dividends gave it to the workers I would gain around 5 thousand.
I also would lose hundreds of thousands from the stock crashing.
Over time you’d be ahead. And you also have by law a lot of control over your 401.
I have a friend who was a store manager - hired by WM right out of B-School at FSU. Good money but ridiculous hours and hassles. He went back to Grad school and now works in a completely different field and says he’s poorer but yet richer in other ways.I get a hell of a lot more in equity every year than 5k...I would lose my ass based on the stock price.
I have a friend who was a store manager - hired by WM right out of B-School at FSU. Good money but ridiculous hours and hassles. He went back to Grad school and now works in a completely different field and says he’s poorer but yet richer in other ways.
While I like trade joes it's not that way in Iowa City. It's always packed in there so getting through aisles is a huge pain as you're standing behind people all the time waiting for them to move on. And I hate shopping at stores that don't have self check out.this is why i love going to trader joes.
You have 6-7 aisles of product. There is no space for 20 different varieties of every item.
I can get in and out with my shopping complete in 15-20 minutes.
They dont have self checkouts and i always seems to get twice the amount of items for the same price i do when i leave hyvee or fareway.
I go to the one in coralville alsoWhile I like trade joes it's not that way in Iowa City. It's always packed in there so getting through aisles is a huge pain as you're standing behind people all the time waiting for them to move on. And I hate shopping at stores that don't have self check out.
I wonder if they are really taking all of the Pepsico products off the shelves. That's a ton of products. Besides the pop you have..
All Gatorade products
All Lays chips, Cheetos, Doritos, Ruffles to name a few
Tropicana juices
Quaker Oats, all their cereals and snacks. An insane amount
Aunt Jemima
Rice a roni products
Starbucks bottled beverages
Lipton teas
This is just off the top of my head. It's a crazy amount of products.
Similak is a big one.I never buy soda unless it's on sale - tho of course the sales aren't as good as they once were
There's quite a few products in grocery stores that i totally believe at least some level of price gouging is at play.
The Frito delivery drivers are the sales people.Step back at the end of the aisle where chips are stocked and you see just how much space they take up now with the explosion in what is called the “salty snack”category. Grocery chains realize how much they have to allocate now for shelf space. Did you guys notice products that weren’t around ten years ago like all the “Skinny Pop” stuff and flavored rice cakes that “extend the category” as it’s termed? So many more things to cram on to those shelves. So the chains realized that they could charge for “center shelf” exposure if Frito wanted that prize “eye level” space where studies have shown most consumers look first.
BTW Frito/Lay delivery drivers do the shelf stocking as do the Pepsi drivers.
(Full disclosure my late husband was a Marketing Director for Frito Lay in Dallas back in the late 80’s for two years, before he was recruited away by another consumer products company who moved us to Michigan.)
Sharing all this makes me laugh because the kids and I used to have to go into all the different chain grocery stores with him on vacations to see the displays and pricing. We still laugh at those memories of them as kids rolling their eyes in the back seat when we’d pull into a King Soopers or Safeway somewhere.
Good times. 😂
The price gets jacked up because most of the people buying it are on WIC. 65% markup is a joke.They messed up their own supply sources.