POLL: Future of the Republican Party
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I heard a woman on the radio describe her party affiliation as a former Republican and current Trumpster.
I found that fitting. I think he’s almost creating a 3rd political party already.
I found that fitting. I think he’s almost creating a 3rd political party already.
I think there will be some lingering damage, it's not hard for me to believe that young people will be repulsed by the party for awhile. I'm not sure there will be a way to distinguish that between the looming demographics challenge though.
He will help Republicans in the long term. He’s so foul that Democrats openly wax nostalgic about W, who should have been impeached for war crimes far worse than trumps bungled attempt at political score settling. Every Republican after Trump will be perceived as sane and reasonable by comparison. The truth is that ugly rhetoric is bad, but ugly policy is worse, and most other Republicans are good at dressing up their ugly policy with lofty rhetoric.
It could be subastantial and lasting damage. Young people have moved towards the Democrats at rates well outside normal levels. As Boomers die out and millenials become the largest voting bloc, the GOP could experience massive problems in the future. Young people are heavily voting Dem and with each election, these patterns become more solidified.
I have pondered something similar. Every future Republican who is not a absolute terrible human being may be viewed relatively favorably. Kind of a resigned "at least he's not Trump".
If you want to make a comp, she's much more akin to Steve King than she is to Trump. She's a single member of the House, not POTUS.
Young people have pretty much always tended to be democrats, so nothing new there.
I highly doubt the Republican Party will suffer any long term damage. It wasn’t that many years ago when the R’s controlled both houses of Congress that some pundits were saying the Democratic Party was on the way out.
Politics go in cycles.
I highly doubt the Republican Party will suffer any long term damage. It wasn’t that many years ago when the R’s controlled both houses of Congress that some pundits were saying the Democratic Party was on the way out.
Politics go in cycles.
True but she's in the same neighborhood as Pelosi in terms of power. Which is stunning.
Won't be an issue, and even if it does who really gives a flying phuck,.. The "party" in and of itself doesn't mean shit,.. People lean left, right or somewhere in between and they will seek out and support politicians who tend to support their beliefs and needs,... R,D or I, doesn't matter.
She's not even close in terms of power. She's loud and gets a lot of attention, but she's a junior house member and Pelosi is behind only Pence in line of succession. You're out of your mind if you think she's in the same neighborhood as Pelosi.
Impeachment was driven by AOC more than other individual. AOC controls the mob.
Pelosi was FORCED into it. That's power.
Disagree, AOC is just loud. There was a clear groundswell.
Could you explain how you came to this understanding?
It doesn't really match up with what I think people generally understand to be reality. So I'm just curious where one comes to believe in the alternative that you subscribe to.
What it's proven is that most Republicans actually had zero real ethics and only pretended too. They've abandoned most of what they stood for to embrace Trump. And he's succesfully created this world within Republicanism. Sure, some of us, like myself have abandoned Republicanism all together as a result, but how many have chosen to embrace it who previously ignored politics.
I'm hoping it burns itself out, but I see each party continuing to push further and further to the right with no willingness to compromise at all. Eventually those of us in the middle (Who really are the majority) will say that enough is enough and demand better, but it's going to have to get a lot worse before that occurs.
I'm hoping it burns itself out, but I see each party continuing to push further and further to the right with no willingness to compromise at all. Eventually those of us in the middle (Who really are the majority) will say that enough is enough and demand better, but it's going to have to get a lot worse before that occurs.
Rs used to say they were the party of law and order , party of faith and family values , fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets. They reflect none of those now. This will be a long term stain on the party.
Zero damage. None.
After Obama won and the Dems took all of the houses, people on here and all over the country were saying, "Sorry, GOP...see you in 40 years." There was no way any GOPer would ever win again. Then two years and 4 years later came the most massive reversal in congressional history.
Nothing matters...ever.
After Obama won and the Dems took all of the houses, people on here and all over the country were saying, "Sorry, GOP...see you in 40 years." There was no way any GOPer would ever win again. Then two years and 4 years later came the most massive reversal in congressional history.
Nothing matters...ever.
this is what I have been saying day one with trump. he created a new party. a third party . the old gop with McCain and romney and bushes is dead.
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we do not see any laws that rrump has broken , he has a family, and he is killing it bigly with tariffs and china deals and so on
it was obvious. it was all over the tv. Pelosi kept saying no impeachment then aoc goes and meets with her, along with other members of the woman power squad... and boom goes the dyn-o-mite
Trump is just a vehicle to get what we desire not a party changer. So far he has governed pretty much like generic Republican. The thing people love is he will not cave to Democrats and will punch back when attacked which is basically every day. The problem for future Republicans is they better show some stones like Trump and attack Democrats or he/she will be out on their ass.
Honestly, I could probably go back and reconstruct the articles/ chain of events that my opinion is based on, but it is unlikely to change any minds, and even if it, what does it matter?At HROT, we only deal with the facts sir
Exactly. That’s why the Republicans are working now to make it harder for people to vote.
Let’s assume the democrats win in November.
They roll back the tax cuts, they hit corporations hard like many are promising.
the economy skids, because it’s long overdue.
2024 comes around, people pay more taxes, their 401(k)s are not doing that great because of higher corporate taxes.
Not even mentioning the possibility of a carbon tax and the reality that there isn’t enough rich people to pay for the campaign promises.
you think people are going to give a shit trump won 8 years earlier ? Roflmao.
They roll back the tax cuts, they hit corporations hard like many are promising.
the economy skids, because it’s long overdue.
2024 comes around, people pay more taxes, their 401(k)s are not doing that great because of higher corporate taxes.
Not even mentioning the possibility of a carbon tax and the reality that there isn’t enough rich people to pay for the campaign promises.
you think people are going to give a shit trump won 8 years earlier ? Roflmao.
I think a far greater challenge will be the demographic changes that we've seen over the last few election cycles. The trend does not favor the GOP. No way to say if that holds in the future of course, we've seen on numerous occasions where one party or the other was supposedly half-dead. But Texas for example, has been a longtime GOP stronghold that has barely required any national campaigning to hold on to, has gotten closer and closer the last two presidential elections. Cruz won a very close re-election campaign in a state where no Democrat has won statewide office in almost 30 years now.
People have very short memories so I don't doubt that the fall-out from Trump will not be as long as you might think. I do think his election masked a lot of issues that the GOP talked about in it's 2012 biopsy on why they lost (remember that?) and haven't done anything to address that.
Honestly, I could probably go back and reconstruct the articles/ chain of events that my opinion is based on, but it is unlikely to change any minds, and even if it, what does it matter?
I hate that people think that way. Nothing ever changes if we only talk just with the people who we already agree with. I welcome debate, and I do my best to include facts if I try to dispute something. The only posters I dislike around here are the ones who are clearly just trolling everyone (either side) or just state their opinion as fact.
I'm always appreciative of when we do manage to have honest-to-god debates around here, unfortunately it doesn't happen as often as it used to. Please don't stop expressing your opinion, just know that people won't always agree, and hey, sometimes you might be wrong (that goes for everyone).
Unfortunately this is the kind of topic that goes 10 pages, and 7 days, and my attention span isn't what it used to be
nobody is going to be out and proud -against dems-like trump in the future unfortunately. they will be subtle like ted cruz and rand paul. and pence. trump is one of a kind.
The only people those people trigger are those that lap up Rush and Fox News.
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