Yes we all want Swanigan. But we're saying the chances aren't great. He's got some really good offers so we won't be surprised if he goes somewhere else.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
Fran can offer a starting position to Swanigan, finishing in a tie for 3rd in the BT and having 2 1st Team All BT to show Swanigan. I am beginning to think some of you DON'T want Fran to get Swanigan with your negative attitude toward Swanigan every time his name is mentioned.
same with Ike, its OH the staff has cooled on him, there are few that seem against the idea that Fran may be still recruiting Ike.
Fran would not tell a recruit come here and you start. Got to earn it he has preached that over and over since he's been here. Reason Hutton liked Fran is when he came here he said if you earn the time he will play you no matter your class after he committed a year ago after Illinois game.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
Fran can offer a starting position to Swanigan, finishing in a tie for 3rd in the BT and having 2 1st Team All BT to show Swanigan. I am beginning to think some of you DON'T want Fran to get Swanigan with your negative attitude toward Swanigan every time his name is mentioned.
same with Ike, its OH the staff has cooled on him, there are few that seem against the idea that Fran may be still recruiting Ike.
3 things.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
since not having a big killed Indiana, O$U and hurt both Nebraska and Illinois, IA needs a big. to many times I have heard about teams not having a inside game as the reason of teams losing.
strange other than posters saying that the staff has cooled on Ike, I still can't find a credible source even inferring this. until he commits to someone else, he still is a option just like Swanigan is till a option although there are some totally against that Idea. by saying IA as no chance or slim and none.
I've heard rumors on another site that Warney, now a 6'8"/245lber from Stony Brook we played in the NIT, is a possibility for a transfer.Originally posted by DavenportHawk8:
I am guessing a transfer will be in the works. I think Fran is looking at a PG transfer (sits out next year) and then gets the following year to do his damage as a possibility.
OR
One thing I have noticed is in some of these smaller conferences (not saying these kids are elite) by any means, but there is some good guard play. Some of these kids could step into the Power 5 conferences and hold their own. Maybe Fran has his eyes on someone at a smaller school who qualifies under the Russell Wilson/Deandre Kane rule. Finishes in 3 years and has an extra year to play.
Regardless hopefully this little run and making the tournament will open some eyes. IF we can make a run in the tourney, then you will see kids take notice and start looking at Iowa. UNI got their starting PG out of Texas after their sweet 16 run. So being successful in the tourney will help with recruiting. But also making it helps a little.
Originally posted by HawkNAZTY20:
I don't see any info tieing swanigan to iowa so stop dreaming person we arnt a program that's gonna step into a later recruiting process and snag an elite guy. The way we recruited Ulis is how we will get a blue blood (top 50 recruit) every 3 years which I'm fine with.
FIFY.
There "arnt" a jar big enough or I'd put you and Kilroy in it and we could all watch you fight it out.
+100 There isn't a single Iowa fan on this site that wouldn't be thrilled if Fran could land Swanigan. Saying you don't think it will happen is entirely different than saying you don't want it to happen. Classic Herby.........Originally posted by SSG T:
3 things.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
since not having a big killed Indiana, O$U and hurt both Nebraska and Illinois, IA needs a big. to many times I have heard about teams not having a inside game as the reason of teams losing.
strange other than posters saying that the staff has cooled on Ike, I still can't find a credible source even inferring this. until he commits to someone else, he still is a option just like Swanigan is till a option although there are some totally against that Idea. by saying IA as no chance or slim and none.
Not having a big isn't what killed those teams you listed. Hell, three of the four were starting true centers. What killed them was complete and total inconsistency on both ends of the court. And the one that didn't have the true C had one of the best offenses, in terms of efficiency, in the country, but their entire defense sucked.
Second, Tom is the one who has said, numerous times, that the staff has cooled on Ike. This isn't posters making things up, spreading rumors, etc. The guy who runs this site has said it, numerous times. I trust Tom, therefore I don't think Ike is a possibility.
Lastly, there is nothing, outside of Fran visiting him once, tying Swanigan to Iowa. There is a ton of stuff tying him to Kentucky and Michigan State, including multiple sources saying it's basically down to those two. I would LOVE if Fran could somehow make it happen, I mean I would love it. I would throw a party in celebration of it. It ain't happening. You trying to equate people saying it's not going to happen (reality) to them saying they don't want it to happen (fantasy) is your mind purely trying to twist reality into you being the only "true" fan and give yourself a reason to argue with no one.
So if Tom owned this site he would be credible enough for you.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
I gave Tom to much credit for owning this site, so right now, NO he is not credible enough for me. and since the coaches can't say anything to ANYBODY associated with the media, I will wait
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. just like I have 10X the confidence in Fran getting a recruit than some of you do. again THANK YOU VERY MUCH if I believe that Fran will get 1 or the other,
Originally posted by iahawkeyes17:
Fran would not tell a recruit come here and you start.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
Fran can offer a starting position to Swanigan, finishing in a tie for 3rd in the BT and having 2 1st Team All BT to show Swanigan. I am beginning to think some of you DON'T want Fran to get Swanigan with your negative attitude toward Swanigan every time his name is mentioned.
same with Ike, its OH the staff has cooled on him, there are few that seem against the idea that Fran may be still recruiting Ike.
See Woody!!!
the ONLY reason I wouldn't want swanigan to come here... I suspect you would be even more annoying with your "I told you so" crowing.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
Fran can offer a starting position to Swanigan, finishing in a tie for 3rd in the BT and having 2 1st Team All BT to show Swanigan. I am beginning to think some of you DON'T want Fran to get Swanigan with your negative attitude toward Swanigan every time his name is mentioned.
same with Ike, its OH the staff has cooled on him, there are few that seem against the idea that Fran may be still recruiting Ike.
Other as well.Originally posted by HoustonREDHawk:
I will vote other. I am a little surprised that some new names haven't surfaced.
Sira from Seton Hall?Originally posted by DavenportHawk8:
I am guessing a transfer will be in the works. I think Fran is looking at a PG transfer (sits out next year) and then gets the following year to do his damage as a possibility.
OR
One thing I have noticed is in some of these smaller conferences (not saying these kids are elite) by any means, but there is some good guard play. Some of these kids could step into the Power 5 conferences and hold their own. Maybe Fran has his eyes on someone at a smaller school who qualifies under the Russell Wilson/Deandre Kane rule. Finishes in 3 years and has an extra year to play.
Regardless hopefully this little run and making the tournament will open some eyes. IF we can make a run in the tourney, then you will see kids take notice and start looking at Iowa. UNI got their starting PG out of Texas after their sweet 16 run. So being successful in the tourney will help with recruiting. But also making it helps a little.
Dickerson? Utoff? Cartwright? Weren't they all Spring recruits?Originally posted by L. Wade Childress:
fran says something similar every year and it never amounts to anything.
Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
these were the players signed in spring
2010
Basabe 5-1-10
Cartwright 6-7-10
2011
Olaseni 4-26-11
2012
signed 5 all commited before the Nov signing period did not need anybody in spring
2013
only had 1 scholarship and Jok signed in Nov
2014
Dickerson committed on 3-8-14 and signed in April
2015 Fran has 2 scholarships left, not enough to support any claim about success or lack of success in filling last minute scholarships. but it looks like he has done a very good job finding the ones he did.
not certain on what prompted this thread per se, but fran inferred on the radio show last night that they were for sure going to sign another player for 2015.Originally posted by hawk_a_holic:
Sira from Seton Hall?Originally posted by DavenportHawk8:
I am guessing a transfer will be in the works. I think Fran is looking at a PG transfer (sits out next year) and then gets the following year to do his damage as a possibility.
OR
One thing I have noticed is in some of these smaller conferences (not saying these kids are elite) by any means, but there is some good guard play. Some of these kids could step into the Power 5 conferences and hold their own. Maybe Fran has his eyes on someone at a smaller school who qualifies under the Russell Wilson/Deandre Kane rule. Finishes in 3 years and has an extra year to play.
Regardless hopefully this little run and making the tournament will open some eyes. IF we can make a run in the tourney, then you will see kids take notice and start looking at Iowa. UNI got their starting PG out of Texas after their sweet 16 run. So being successful in the tourney will help with recruiting. But also making it helps a little.
BTW, what/where are the Fran comments that prompted this thread?
Seth Gorney kind of contradicts your point. It was the guys Basabe and Cole that got us in trouble. You can put that on Lickliter.Originally posted by The Sleeping Dog:
Iowa needs size, and we need it badly.
What does a wave of 6'8" guys look like? A wave hitting a 6'10" sea wall.
Hawks haven't won with a center under 6'9" since 88. 89, starting center 7'0" Les Jepsen, with 6'8" Ed Horton and 6'10" Matt Bullard as forwards. 91-93, 6'11" Acie Earl with 6'9" Chris Street and 6'8" Russ Marble, 95 and 97, 6'9" 10 year NBA career Ryan Bowen, with some Russ Millard and Jess Settles at forward. 99-6'10" Guy V Rucker; 2001 6'11" Jared Reiner, 05 & 06 6'11/7' Erek Hansen, 14 & 15 7'1" Adam Woodbury backed by 6'10" Gabe Olaseni.
Even the 88 team played a f freak line up with Kent Hill (who was a Charles Barkley kind of body-a young Charles Barkley) and 6'8" 250 pounder Al Lorenzen as centers...with a healthy dose of Ed Horton on the low blocks.
How did the Hawks play when Mel Basabe and Jarryd Cole were the deep post presence on most plays? Had 10 and 11 win seasons.
The minutes per game stat is not correct on the site. He's clearly not averaging 1pt and 1 reb per minute. If he was averaging 1pt and reb per minute he would be getting offers from every D1 school.Originally posted by StormHawk42:
Ike probably has potential but he still seems at least a year away from contributing anything to a D1, let alone a B1G, program. He's averaging only 6 minutes a game, despite being a starter. Granted, JUCO ball is different because they play a ton of guys and it's very high scoring. And to be fair, Ike has made use of his minutes, averaging 7 points, 7 boards, and 1 block, but 3 fouls (in 6 min/game?!?!). But people who are paying subscribers have said the staff has cooled on Ike and I believe them. At this point, if we made a run in the NCAA and really opened some players' eyes, taking Ike would feel somewhat like we're settling. JMO
This post was edited on 3/10 9:55 AM by StormHawk42