Poll: Who picks up Jack Nunge's minutes?
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Should be keegan, but I'm afraid it will be PMac
I voted for Josh, because I think we likely have to get "some" minutes from him, though more likely everyone that has been playing picks up 1 or 2.
Keegan and Patrick. Nunge was averaging about 16 min/game. Split between the two, it'll bring their minutes up to 25 (K) and 22 (P) mpg. I think that might even be too much for them but I guess we'll find out.
I was hoping to see him last night. Not expecting great results, but tell him he has 5 fouls to give and to crash the boards. Dude may be raw, but he is a big body and isn't void of skills.
Do we see Keegan play more 5 and Kris come in at the 3/4?
Going to have to go smaller for 4-5 minutes stretches with Keegan at the 5. I hope Fran surrounds him with 2-3 starters instead of just inserting reserves into the lineup like a line change.
i like that you added Ash as a name. whats the over/under on how many shots a game he would take if he played 15 minutes a game. Cracks me up every time he goes in I know I am going to see a 3 hoisted by him.
I think I'd try to throw everybody at them. Josh for a bit, Kris for a while, Keagan and Patrick too. The problem will be on the glass and the offensive end. Hope the guys are up for it and hope Jack can make it back.
Obviously Ke Murray's going to get more minutes. P McC makes complete sense at the 5. He's skinny, obviously but he could run a big man to death. Patrick would be much quicker than most of the bigs we'll face with a jumping ability to get rebounds and block shots. While Patrick probably loses that battle inside if he played a full game he only needs to play inside for a few minutes and he might get some blocks, rebounds, dunks, etc...
Ke Murray is a much more skilled player than Jack Nunge. Jack has played some good games but he's been mostly bad the last two or three games. However, Jack's inside defense is the best on the team, he's a real shot blocker and there will be moments where that lack of size hurts. Keegan's great floor instincts and hustle will compensate for size. Not a lot of guys bigger than Keegan will have the ability to chase him around the offensive end.
Think we'll finally see a little Kr Murray on a regular basis. Maybe just a minute or two to give Keegan and Patrick a blow or cover foul trouble. Also think Kris will make some plays in his limited floor minutes.
Josh O is mystery. I think everyone would agree that he is raw and, at least when last seen, in terrible condition. But he is huge and has shown a willingness to get physical on the boards. Whatever, if anything, we get from Josh is purely gravy.
Ke Murray is a much more skilled player than Jack Nunge. Jack has played some good games but he's been mostly bad the last two or three games. However, Jack's inside defense is the best on the team, he's a real shot blocker and there will be moments where that lack of size hurts. Keegan's great floor instincts and hustle will compensate for size. Not a lot of guys bigger than Keegan will have the ability to chase him around the offensive end.
Think we'll finally see a little Kr Murray on a regular basis. Maybe just a minute or two to give Keegan and Patrick a blow or cover foul trouble. Also think Kris will make some plays in his limited floor minutes.
Josh O is mystery. I think everyone would agree that he is raw and, at least when last seen, in terrible condition. But he is huge and has shown a willingness to get physical on the boards. Whatever, if anything, we get from Josh is purely gravy.
Bohannon
Frederick
Weiskamp
Keegan
Garza
PMac
Toussaint
Ulis
Perkins
Connor somewhere in there if he can go.....
Frederick
Weiskamp
Keegan
Garza
PMac
Toussaint
Ulis
Perkins
Connor somewhere in there if he can go.....
I say throw the kid into the fire. Josh O has been at Iowa for almost 7 months now. Throw is weight around, take up space, and rebound. 5 additional fouls to give and any garbage points he gets is a bonus. it's not like he's losing a year of eligibility, it's a free year anyway, we just might be surprised at what we see.
I'd love to see him get in more, but until he gets conditioned and able to play at that pace, it might be a bit too much for any long stretches. But I agree with you on the garbage points and the fouls.
Didn't Fran play Ash for some significant minutes once before? Like a few years ago, not at the end of the game but during, and specifically to drain some 3s. I may be thinking of another walk on.
Dog I can't agree. Not only can PMac not play the 5, he really isn't a 4 either. I know desperate times......but can you imagine Patrick covering Cockburn? Or Lidell? Or DIckinson? Or Edey? I think not.
I'm sure Kris is at least long & athletic enough to spell Garza or spell Keegan spelling Garza. Rebound & play a little defense while the other guys take a blow.
Ugly images. My presumption is precisely desperate times. I'm thinking Luka is playing 35 + minutes now so whoever comes in for Luka isn't going to be on the floor long.
Totally agree Patrick is a 3 and that's where he has played almost every minute. Sometimes the quicker athletic guy gets the jump on the moose and we are going to need someone to be that quicker guy a few times in the next few games. We're going to see some strange lineups on the floor for a few minutes to be sure.
Let’s face it, we’re screwed. We will have to really shoot well to have a shot against anyone. Nunge was a defensive rim protector and we needed his minutes. Going to be a real struggle without him.
What that you’ve seen this season makes you think this? Right now, Keegan is averaging 17 min, Nunge 16 and PMac 14. You think PMac is going to 30?
The reality is that we’ll see more of both of those guys. I’d guess Keegan goes more to 20-25 and PMac goes more to 18. That still leaves a few more minutes to spread, plus maybe a couple more if Connor isn’t 100%. I actually wonder if this means a little more Toussaint with Connor maybe having to play a little more 4. Probably not (and certainly not if Joe T doesn’t get out to a quick start), but I think the rotation might just tighten a bit.
This is the reason a team has 4 really good centers on their roster.....think North Carolina. Evidently Nunge's legs just can't withstand the rigors of Big Ten Basketball.
It would behoove Fran to think ahead to next year and recruit i or 2 graduate bigs to fill out the roster. Ogundele is not a given and Nunge has yet to finish a season heathy. Without a replacement for Garza, Iowa could become a bottom feeder in the BIG real quick.
Can anyone start a go fund me account for Luka so he can come back next year and still make a ton of money in the process....only kidding!
It would behoove Fran to think ahead to next year and recruit i or 2 graduate bigs to fill out the roster. Ogundele is not a given and Nunge has yet to finish a season heathy. Without a replacement for Garza, Iowa could become a bottom feeder in the BIG real quick.
Can anyone start a go fund me account for Luka so he can come back next year and still make a ton of money in the process....only kidding!
Keegan will be in danger of foul trouble. I don’t know where to go for fouls per minute and am too lazy to calculate it myself, but I’d be concerned about him guarding a big for even a few minutes as we need him more then ever on the floor.
Cockburn rarely plays more minutes than Luka. When Cockburn goes out, Iowa goes small. I think that Keegan or Patrick could guard Bezhanishvili, at least well enough to keep in front of him. It's going to take a team effort, for sure.
I find it crazy that JO has hardly gotten any minutes at all this year. Even in the blowouts when Fran empties the bench, JO either doesn’t get in at all, or is the last one to come in with less than 2 mins left. Even at the end of the Michigan game, when it was pretty obvious Jack was seriously injured, Fran emptied the bench but for whatever reason, decided not to get JO in. Why? What could possibly be the reason for not putting him in for the last 3 minutes in that game?
I would think in a year when you only have a total of 3 centers on the roster, a year where redshirts don’t matter, and your backup C has had injury problems in the past, a priority should be to get your raw freshman C some damn minutes whenever the opportunity arises.
We now find ourselves in a situation where we pretty much will HAVE to play JO for at least a few minutes each half, just to give Garza a breather. The only other option at the 5 would be Keegan, who will likely immediately get into foul trouble trying to guard most bigs down low. Since we need Keegan at the 4, we might as well let JO get his 5 fouls every game. He should be able to spell Garza for 2-3 minutes each half. If and when Garza finds himself in foul trouble though...lookout.
I would think in a year when you only have a total of 3 centers on the roster, a year where redshirts don’t matter, and your backup C has had injury problems in the past, a priority should be to get your raw freshman C some damn minutes whenever the opportunity arises.
We now find ourselves in a situation where we pretty much will HAVE to play JO for at least a few minutes each half, just to give Garza a breather. The only other option at the 5 would be Keegan, who will likely immediately get into foul trouble trying to guard most bigs down low. Since we need Keegan at the 4, we might as well let JO get his 5 fouls every game. He should be able to spell Garza for 2-3 minutes each half. If and when Garza finds himself in foul trouble though...lookout.
This is why I was really hoping Josh O would be ready to give a few minutes. Keegan can handle himself against a smaller, tweener 5. He'll be fine against another typical forward playing the 5. But he just doesn't stand a chance against a 7 footer that goes 255# or more. They need another actual big man to counter that type of opposing player.
Keegan isn't going to get all the minutes - that much is sure. He gets gassed playing over 20 minutes so I cannot see him suddenly going to 30. He'd probably foul out of most games before he gets there anyway.
These kids need the time to adapt to this. They are doing very well but they can't be expected to carry the team this year.
These kids need the time to adapt to this. They are doing very well but they can't be expected to carry the team this year.
It won’t be just one player to pick up Jack’s minutes of course.
Keegan will get close to his existing minutes at 3/4 spot + pick up more when slides down to spell Garza at the 5. PMAC will pick up Keegan’s existing minutes at the 3/4 spot. Kris M might get some to spell the increase in PMAC’s minutes.
Fran will need to be really smart about spelling Garza as he wearing out as it is. He can’t sit Garza while JBo, CJF, and Weezy sit at the same time. We all saw what happened at MI when that occurred.
Keegan will get close to his existing minutes at 3/4 spot + pick up more when slides down to spell Garza at the 5. PMAC will pick up Keegan’s existing minutes at the 3/4 spot. Kris M might get some to spell the increase in PMAC’s minutes.
Fran will need to be really smart about spelling Garza as he wearing out as it is. He can’t sit Garza while JBo, CJF, and Weezy sit at the same time. We all saw what happened at MI when that occurred.
Kris should have been getting minutes this season since Keegan is prone to foul trouble at the "4" and CMAC at the "4" has not been a good defensive lineup.
Fran is grooming PMAC to be a "3" so giving him post minutes would be a change from the family plan.....he's had Keegan at center at times, I've never seen PMAC defending the post this season. . Keegan does have more of back to basket post game then PMAC on offense, so you can post up Keegan on offense.. I think Kris has to get more PT going forward just to manage foul trouble...being undersized and young in the post with no names is recipe for lots of fouls.
Yes, last year, because we had NO bench last year. Christ, I don't want to see Ash in there over the twins or PMac, and as others have said, I'd much rather play Josh O for 2 or 3 minutes twice a game then resort to playing walk ons.........
Ash brings nothing to the table to replace Nunge, and Josh O is going to have to play next year so its time to put on his big boy pants and go to work......
