Pollard tired of playing

[turkEhawk]

second fiddle so he's doing something about it. I understand that throwing a bunch of money at a program doesn't automatically make it better, buts it's a step in the right direction. I just hope with Iowa wrestling being the gold standard for so many years (albeit not recently), that complacency hasn't made our administration blind to what is going on with the landscape of college wrestling.
And from reading some of the other posts concerning the University Foundation, it sure looks like it's going to be an uphill battle keeping pace with the rest of the country.
Does Gary Barta not have any stroke at all when it comes to money and where it gets allocated? I don't care how much the frowns upon how money is raised, GB needs to go all in on this and get some of the serious "givers" to send a message to the Univ Foundation.
My big take away fro St.Louis was that the really good programs all have really good club wrestling and lots of world class post graduate athletes to train with daily.
Frustrating and hard to swallow.....................

 

[Azchief32]

The fifth thread on this now

 

[Kwoodhawk]

The fifth thread on this now

SPOONER is counting too..........

 

[HAWKS8302]

The fifth thread on this now

It's not mandatory to click and read every thread.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Pollard gets no credit. It is cheaper and easier to maintain a program than rebuild one, so the mistake is his. Good that he recognized it after the fact, but it's still his mistake.

 

[crablegs1]

Pollard gets no credit. It is cheaper and easier to maintain a program than rebuild one, so the mistake is his. Good that he recognized it after the fact, but it's still his mistake.

So, he gets no credit for fixing his mistake? If any thing he gets more credit for realizing his mistake and taking the needed steps to fix it. He could have easily left things as status quo, promoted one of the Paulsons, or something similar. But, he went all in and couldn't have possibly done any better.

 

[jvclark]

So, he gets no credit for fixing his mistake? If any thing he gets more credit for realizing his mistake and taking the needed steps to fix it. He could have easily left things as status quo, promoted one of the Paulsons, or something similar. But, he went all in and couldn't have possibly done any better.

I have said it before, it felt as though Pollard forgot there was a wrestling program under his wing. And also, that if it had been basketball or football he would have changed coaches twice before KJ left.

With that said, in my opinion you have to give him credit for what he has done, albeit way too late.....

Let me ask this: did anyone think that Dresser was even an option, or at least a serious one? If your answer is no( and it should be unless you knew something), then you have to give him credit for this hire. NOT TO MENTION, the subsequent staff, both paid and unpaid.

 

[Pennstate1985]

So, he gets no credit for fixing his mistake? If any thing he gets more credit for realizing his mistake and taking the needed steps to fix it. He could have easily left things as status quo, promoted one of the Paulsons, or something similar. But, he went all in and couldn't have possibly done any better.

After 8 years? Hell no.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

So, he gets no credit for fixing his mistake? If any thing he gets more credit for realizing his mistake and taking the needed steps to fix it. He could have easily left things as status quo, promoted one of the Paulsons, or something similar. But, he went all in and couldn't have possibly done any better.

Pollard gets no credit for anything in my book. I think he is a terrible AD and a scumbag of a human being. And before you ask yourself, yes I do know him personally and would tell it to his face.

 

[crablegs1]

Pollard gets no credit for anything in my book. I think he is a terrible AD and a scumbag of a human being. And before you ask yourself, yes I do know him personally and would tell it to his face.

Makes no difference to me if you'd say it to his face or not. He is a highly paid public figure, and ridicule comes along with that job.

Have to disagree about credit for this move though. I think he knocked it out of the park.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

I'm told that ISU wrestling has a serious benefactor and Pollard is doing what he was told to do. That was from a friend who has lived in Ames for all of his 67 years and has followed ISU wrestling since the 50s.

 

[Rustys Dad]

I'm told that ISU wrestling has a serious benefactor and Pollard is doing what he was told to do. That was from a friend who has lived in Ames for all of his 67 years and has followed ISU wrestling since the 50s.

Huh? So this benefactor has allowed ISU wrestling to go beyond mediocrity the past 8 seasons and is now just "telling" Pollard what he needs to do? Uh, okay.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Huh? So this benefactor has allowed ISU wrestling to go beyond mediocrity the past 8 seasons and is now just "telling" Pollard what he needs to do? Uh, okay.

I guess he's tired of the mediocrity. But I will refrain from posting anything else I hear since it seems you would rather have a message board devoid of possible gossip, and you quite obviously believe that Pollard would rather strain an already tight budget than what I have repeated.

 

[Monzon]

Pollard wants ISU to be the lead athletic program in the state, and one of the ways to do that is to make sure talent at the competition is removed.

Dresser made a good move here. He brings two assistants who lived in the state for many years beforehand back (probably took minimal convincing) plus dangled an enticing offer to a fresh, recognizable up-and-coming coach in Metcalf.

As they stated in their press conference yesterday, they're 57th in nation after last month. I feel ISU will be competitive again in two years, and by that I mean a winning record in Duals plus enough AA's to hover around top-10 in NCAA's.

Carver should be exciting in when they return in late 2018.

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I guess he's tired of the mediocrity. But I will refrain from posting anything else I hear since it seems you would rather have a message board devoid of possible gossip, and you quite obviously believe that Pollard would rather strain an already tight budget than what I have repeated.

Don't get upset just because someone questions what you've been told and reported. He was just shooting the messenger. Standard operating procedure around here. His problem..........OK

What you reported was my guess also. I couldn't figure how all of a sudden Pollard "got religion" and decided to do what he has done unless someone was chewing his rear end off. Didn't figure he was that self motivated after all this time of obvious indifference.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Don't get upset just because someone questions what you've been told and reported. He was just shooting the messenger. Standard operating procedure around here. His problem..........OK

What you reported was my guess also. I couldn't figure how all of a sudden Pollard "got religion" and decided to do what he has done unless someone was chewing his rear end off. Didn't figure he was that self motivated after all this time of obvious indifference.

Yeah I got a little bit snippy. I apologize to Rusty's Dad and the rest of you who read my post. My father always told me to think before I spoke, but I haven't always followed good advice.

 

[Rustys Dad]

I guess he's tired of the mediocrity. But I will refrain from posting anything else I hear since it seems you would rather have a message board devoid of possible gossip, and you quite obviously believe that Pollard would rather strain an already tight budget than what I have repeated.

I'm not shooting the messenger ... I'm saying the "possible gossip" doesn't make sense. That's all ... Not an attack on you ...

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I'm not shooting the messenger ... I'm saying the "possible gossip" doesn't make sense. That's all ... Not an attack on you ...

Of course it makes sense. Small time benefactor starts chewing on Pollard. Pollard says be glad to fix the problem.........gonna take some money. Small time donor has to become big time donor. Problem solved.

Optional scenario: Pollard wakes up one morning, has his coffee and says.......OH MY........What Have I Done? I must spend a lot of money right away and fix this. And hire a whole passel of Iowa Hawkeye Coaches also. Problem solved.

Which is your choice?

 

[Rustys Dad]

Of course it makes sense. Small time benefactor starts chewing on Pollard. Pollard says be glad to fix the problem.........gonna take some money. Small time donor has to become big time donor. Problem solved.

Optional scenario: Pollard wakes up one morning, has his coffee and says.......OH MY........What Have I Done? I must spend a lot of money right away and fix this. And hire a whole passel of Iowa Hawkeye Coaches also. Problem solved.

Which is your choice?

Pollard is not a stupid person ... So I wouldn't rule out option 2 ... Bottom line is none of us know what truly took place ... but I think we can all agree ISU wrestling needed to move in a different direction and I think Pollard hit a home run with the hiring(s)

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Pollard is not a stupid person ... So I wouldn't rule out option 2 ... Bottom line is none of us know what truly took place ... but I think we can all agree ISU wrestling needed to move in a different direction and I think Pollard hit a home run with the hiring(s)

Pollard is not a stupid man...........well..... OK?

But his results these past many years with his wrestling team and coaching decisions seem to demonstrate something a bit different.

Yes he needed to move in a different direction, but whether he hit a home run or not is still to be determined.

And of course option 2 .........just doesn't make sense.

 

[ketelmeister]

Wrestling boosters would not step up in the past to help the program. They were told either 1. Iowa State would go after being a top program (and donors would need to step up) or 2. Wrestling would go away. Let's face it, Iowa needs Iowa State to be competitive to keep interest in wrestling up in the state. Hell, Gable knows that and has been around the Iowa State campus a lot over the past year. So far over a million dollars has been raised from what I've heard, but I can't confirm that. I would not be surprised if Gable didn't give some money, he's loyal to both Universities in a good way.

 

[Rustys Dad]

Pollard is not a stupid man...........well..... OK?

But his results these past many years with his wrestling team and coaching decisions seem to demonstrate something a bit different.

Yes he needed to move in a different direction, but whether he hit a home run or not is still to be determined.

And of course option 2 .........just doesn't make sense.

Yes ... Pollard is not a stupid man. I'm not an ISU or Pollard fan but Pollard has been very effective in his AD role.

In my opinion, Dresser is the best hire ISU could hope for and they got him. He's a tremendous coach and tremendous fundraiser ... and he now has 3 wonderful former Hawkeyes assisting him ... So yeah, I think this has been a home run move for ISU ...

 

[Azchief32]

Pollard is not a stupid man...........well..... OK?

But his results these past many years with his wrestling team and coaching decisions seem to demonstrate something a bit different.

Yes he needed to move in a different direction, but whether he hit a home run or not is still to be determined.

And of course option 2 .........just doesn't make sense.

Occam's razor?

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Occam's razor?

 

[Pennstate1985]

Penn State didn't have a deep pocket benefactor either until one day someone got pissed off and became one. Sometimes it literally only takes one person to have the lightbulb come on, and they fund a large portion of the wish list.

 

[SiouxCyty]

Huh? So this benefactor has allowed ISU wrestling to go beyond mediocrity the past 8 seasons and is now just "telling" Pollard what he needs to do? Uh, okay.

I've heard there was some corporate backing also.

 

[Azchief32]

I've heard there was some corporate backing also.

Heard that too...ISU wrestling brought to you by:

 

[UndercoverHawk]

Heard that too...ISU wrestling brought to you by:

It's the D word!!!

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Heard that too...ISU wrestling brought to you by:

So does this mean that ISU wrestlers will have to wear Adult diapers under their .............oh never mind.

 

[HawkeyeEmpire]

Heard that too...ISU wrestling brought to you by:

Lol, congratulations this made me spit out my morning coffee!

 

[ST8TAILG8R]

Pollard gets no credit for anything in my book. I think he is a terrible AD and a scumbag of a human being. And before you ask yourself, yes I do know him personally and would tell it to his face.

Then, as a Cyclone fan, he must be doing something right. Don't give yourself that much credit... JP could not care less what you think even if you are douchey enough to say it to his face... anonymous online tough guy.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Then, as a Cyclone fan, he must be doing something right. Don't give yourself that much credit... JP could not care less what you think even if you are douchey enough to say it to his face... anonymous online tough guy.

Anyone who takes 8 years to solve an obvious problem is part of the problem. I'm not saying that as a partisan, but as a management consultant.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Penn State didn't have a deep pocket benefactor either until one day someone got pissed off and became one. Sometimes it literally only takes one person to have the lightbulb come on, and they fund a large portion of the wish list.

See, all it takes is everyone getting pissed off, and especially those with the deeper pockets. Kudos to all of you who are walking the walk in the donation thread.