Well if the polls say so....
I love shit like this. Argues polls are kinda bunk, then in his very next post uses polls as his validation.
Post election thoughts... the day after.
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Any Republican that says they're not concerned is flat out lying. Virginia was viewed as a "purple" State.
The mere fact that Trump campaigned for a losing candidate means much more.
And with that result... Trump will be telling his staff that he doesn't want to go to "tossup" races because it could reflect poorly on him. I bet he doesn't set foot in AZ, Colorado, and Maine... as another poster suggested.
Iowa might be a problem for him also if the trade war and ethanol issues remain.
The GOP is worried.
The mere fact that Trump campaigned for a losing candidate means much more.
And with that result... Trump will be telling his staff that he doesn't want to go to "tossup" races because it could reflect poorly on him. I bet he doesn't set foot in AZ, Colorado, and Maine... as another poster suggested.
Iowa might be a problem for him also if the trade war and ethanol issues remain.
The GOP is worried.
I assume Trump is at least a tad higher. I've predicted that this seat will mirror within 1-2 percentage points of the top of the ticket. If the Dem wins, Joni is finished. Nobody is voting D for Pres and Joni for Senate.
I feel like Greenfield MAY outperform the top of the ticket, but again, probably just by 1-2 points max. Looking at 2016, this is about how things played out in Senate seats in Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Indiana.
I do think it's foolish to try to predict how Iowa will go in November before there's a nominee. There's way too many things that are yet to happen.
You can tell they are worried because their only response to the results last night was that they killed in it Mississippi. If the GOP winning in Mississippi is big news you know they are in trouble.
Same thing in 2016. Who here thought Trump was going to win? The National Polls had Hillary winning, and she did win the popular vote. But that's not how you get elected.
I think the GOP needs to take it on the chin (literally) next fall. Starting with Trump, and funneling down to the Party over country Senators.
Then the Dems will take control of all three houses. My bet is they will then abolish the filibuster and implement what they want.
Then if four to eight years, if the country doesn't like what they're seeing, the pendulum will swing back to the GOP. Rinse and repeat.
If I'm the Iowa Dem HQs, I'm praying to God for an opportunity to get ole Breadbags and Trump on stage together next year. Tie her to this President and let her go down with the ship.
Ernst will have to make a decision on her relationship going forward. A "purple" State like Iowa is dangerous territory for Idiot In Chief.
Will they do that just because Republicans did it? Or will they revert the districts back to a more ideal and representative of the areas?
I still look back at the last couple months especially in 2016 and just marvel at the number of crazy things that happened down the stretch. 3 incredibly nasty, acrimonious debates; Access Hollywood, the Comey Letter; Trump's wild and crazy campaigning...I don't know that we'll ever see anything that insane again.
Note - I fully expect the vitriol next fall to be terrible, but I don't know if it will be possible for all the other things to repeat themselves.
They will do it because those are the current rules as defined by the Supreme Court. For states that don’t have non partisan redistributing, the majority party is free to put the hammer on the minority party. There is no recourse.
Interesting. Imagine this scenario. You vote someone in as a representative. You decide that party isn't representing you well, they still have another year or two. Meanwhile you try to change the governor because they also aren't representing you well. It comes to a tie, and the person that you voted for previously who you don't like anymore reinstalls the person you voted against.
A perennial candidate appointed to a state board by Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin was booed offstage after falsely announcing the Republican had won re-election.
The woman, identified as Covington resident Alyssa McDowell, jumped onstage at GOP headquarters and told the crowd that Bevin had won — about 20 minutes after WLEX-TV called the election for Democrat Andy Beshear.
“Hey, we just got word Matt Bevin has won,” McDowell said, holding a cell phone to her ear.
She then began hooting and hollering in celebration, as the crowd cheered along with her.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ki...sely-claim-kentucky-governor-won-re-election/
The woman, identified as Covington resident Alyssa McDowell, jumped onstage at GOP headquarters and told the crowd that Bevin had won — about 20 minutes after WLEX-TV called the election for Democrat Andy Beshear.
“Hey, we just got word Matt Bevin has won,” McDowell said, holding a cell phone to her ear.
She then began hooting and hollering in celebration, as the crowd cheered along with her.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ki...sely-claim-kentucky-governor-won-re-election/
And she 100% did win the popular vote.Well if the polls say so....
Joni has no choice but to get on his ship and see where it goes. As I noted, he’s probably more popular than she is in terms of approval rating. Trump sits about in the mid 40s in Iowa while Ernst is at 39. There’s no upside to her distancing herself.
Stivers said he thought Bevin’s speech declining to concede to Beshear was “appropriate.” He said believes most of the votes that went to Libertarian John Hicks, who received about 2% of the total vote, would have gone to Bevin and made him the clear winner.
Soooo...I guess, they'll just award Hicks' votes to Bevin since that's who they meant to vote for? Sounds about right for the GOP.
Under that line of thought, they should give Hillary the votes that went to Jill Stein?
Yes there is - but the path is through the state courts. The SC throwing it back to the states was a win for NC because our state SC is far more moderate than the USSC.
that damn constitutionAnd she 100% did win the popular vote.Well if the polls say so....
I didn't vote because I took a nap.........and it was great!
Also the world hasn't burned down yet, so you all got that going for you which is nice.
Sorry. I left out educated, and those who aren’t too brand loyal to see for themselves.
I'm genuinely curious who the Dems will run against Joni in Iowa? Will they trot out an up and comer or will they run a retread like Braley? I have no idea who has announced a Senate bid on the Dem side in Iowa.
It will end up being Theresa Greenfield so far as I can see. She ran in 2018 for David Young's House seat (that Cindy Axne eventually won) but dropped out because some volunteer forged some petition signatures. So she already had a campaign structure in place and money in the bank before she started this run.
She out gained Phoni (and I assume all of the other Dems) in Q3.
She out gained Phoni (and I assume all of the other Dems) in Q3.
