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Predict Saturday's attendance

I'd certainly be fine with announcing both numbers: sold, attended. But announcing just attendance would be just as annoying as otherwise. If the stadium is 100% sold, but is not 100% attended, there isn't anything the University can really do about it. Hell even Nebraska wouldn't have its sellout streak if it just took 1 person not attending to blow it.
 
How many people attended the spring game at Kinnick? How many did the U claim did? Just one recent example of the U's creative attendance counts.

And as some have suggested, why not list both tickets sold and attendance? It would be easy and honest. "Tickets sold" and "attendance" are two different things, by definition. You'd think a university would know and respect that.

Anyway, those of you who do attend, don't forget the sun screen. And yes, "cheap food" was a reference to the Barta voucher system. At least some of you can connect the dots. :)
 
sadhawk said:
48,000 and they still won't get the hint. Until we see more seat backs than people Kirk will stay on the sidelines.
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Um...we won't be seeing seat backs if they aren't buying season tickets that have seat backs....Just sayin'
 
Birky said:
I realize they can do it, I'm asking if anybody does do it. I'm pretty sure everybody announces tickets sold. That is why there are "sellouts," or the "paid attendance." Why are people so upset about announcing the number of tickets sold instead of the number of butts in seats. Who cares?
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Because the NegaHawks have to have something...ANYTHING to be outraged by. It defines who they are.
 
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theIowaHawk said:
I'd certainly be fine with announcing both numbers: sold, attended. But announcing just attendance would be just as annoying as otherwise. If the stadium is 100% sold, but is not 100% attended, there isn't anything the University can really do about it. Hell even Nebraska wouldn't have its sellout streak if it just took 1 person not attending to blow it.
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Agree. The numbers are both significant, but for different reasons.

As for my prediction of the attendance at Kinnick Saturday, it is 61,001 :)
 
67K

And it isn't Iowa almost every major program goes by tickets sold not butts in the seat. This has been going on for a long time, nothing new here.
 
Lone Clone said:
Agree. The numbers are both significant, but for different reasons.

As for my prediction of the attendance at Kinnick Saturday, it is 61,001 :)
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As long as it beats ISU, I will be happy. I know that there will be sellouts in the future.
 
theIowaHawk said:
As long as it beats ISU, I will be happy. I know that there will be sellouts in the future.
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Which was my point, as I'm sure you realized. A problem for the Hawks this year, though.....their game is at 11 and ISU doesn't play until 7. As the saying goes, the first liar never has a chance.
 
Please note a new thread says Iowa has sold 57,000 tix for Saturday. Unlikely they sell many more before kickoff, so my guesstimate of 59,121 now appears overly optimistic. Kinnick could struggle to put 55,000 inside its historic walls. Wow. That sends a message about (1) coaching and (2) scheduling. And it ain't a positive one. Let's see how Barta and the boys try to spin it.
 
cedarvalleykid14 said:
Please note a new thread says Iowa has sold 57,000 tix for Saturday. Unlikely they sell many more before kickoff, so my guesstimate of 59,121 now appears overly optimistic. Kinnick could struggle to put 55,000 inside its historic walls. Wow. That sends a message about (1) coaching and (2) scheduling. And it ain't a positive one. Let's see how Barta and the boys try to spin it.
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They've already spun it: This happened in 2002, one of the best Iowa seasons ever. Guess what, it was about (1) coaching and (2) scheduling then too............oh wait, maybe it was about Ws and Ls back then too.
 
Just announced only 57,600 sold for the game. Definitely expecting less than 60k. Smallest opener in 12 years. Not only lack of Iowa fans but ISU only sold 1,200 of allotted 4,000.
 
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cedarvalleykid14 said:
Please note a new thread says Iowa has sold 57,000 tix for Saturday. Unlikely they sell many more before kickoff, so my guesstimate of 59,121 now appears overly optimistic. Kinnick could struggle to put 55,000 inside its historic walls. Wow. That sends a message about (1) coaching and (2) scheduling. And it ain't a positive one. Let's see how Barta and the boys try to spin it.
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With the scheduling aspect. Every power 5 team has an Illinois st or sun belt or lower tier D1 team on their schedule. May not be in week 1 but tough to find a team that doesn't throughout the season.
 
iahawkeyes17 said:
With the scheduling aspect. Every power 5 team has an Illinois st or sun belt or lower tier D1 team on their schedule. May not be in week 1 but tough to find a team that doesn't throughout the season.
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Yeah, but it's hard to sell season tickets when almost every team who visits Iowa this year feels like a lower tier D1 team.
 
iahawkeyes17 said:
With the scheduling aspect. Every power 5 team has an Illinois st or sun belt or lower tier D1 team on their schedule. May not be in week 1 but tough to find a team that doesn't throughout the season.
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True, only Iowa has two Illinois St and North Texas
 
HawkAttackDial911 said:
Yeah, but it's hard to sell season tickets when almost every team who visits Iowa this year feels like a lower tier D1 team.
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No disagreement there. Our conf schedule is garbage and can blame Delaney and the big 10 with expansion and newly formed west division.

However non conf we control. Don't think it's horrible. Got was suppose to be easy fbs which most teams have, a lower tier non power 5 conf team with n Texas where we don't have to play home/away and good quality ACC team in Pitt. Not great, not horrible. Rare to find power 5 team play three non conf game vs other power 5.

Beat the ISUs first 2 weeks help a ton getting seats sold for night game vs Pitt.
 
This has given me the sad since it was reported. I'll be there, will be happy to see all that go, and for those that stay home I hope you enjoy it.

Couple wins and I'll be happy to see you guys flock back. My group will have 5 or 6 there Saturday, should be a fun, but hot, one.
 
John.Kasich said:
People that gave up their season tickets aren't going to "flock back" after a couple of wins.
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Bullshit.

Feel free to go back and look at my previous posts. When Iowa is 7-0 it will have no trouble selling out. After just 2-0 that number will be well over 60k, especially for a night game.
 
theIowaHawk said:
Bullshit.

Feel free to go back and look at my previous posts. When Iowa is 7-0 it will have no trouble selling out. After just 2-0 that number will be well over 60k, especially for a night game.
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You just aren't very bright. 7,000+ people that bought tickets last year decided that they didn't want to watch Iowa play football this year. They're not just going to change their minds after glorious victories over Illinois and Maryland. That was a season-long decision (possibly far longer). And check the boxscore from the 2002 Northwestern game. Iowa was 10-1 and ranked 5th in the country and attendance was several thousand short of a sellout. Football fans in this area do not make week-to-week ticket purchasing decisions. You're clueless if you think otherwise.
 
John.Kasich said:
You just aren't very bright. 7,000+ people that bought tickets last year decided that they didn't want to watch Iowa play football this year. They're not just going to change their minds after glorious victories over Illinois and Maryland. That was a season-long decision (possibly far longer). And check the boxscore from the 2002 Northwestern game. Iowa was 10-1 and ranked 5th in the country and attendance was several thousand short of a sellout. Football fans in this area do not make week-to-week ticket purchasing decisions. You're clueless if you think otherwise.
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Ok Hoss, since they don't make "week-to-week" purchasing decisions it would certainly be interesting that they sold out the following games that year:

ISU
Michigan State
Wisconsin

Yes, they failed to sell out Northwestern by almost 1700 tickets. They also failed to sell out Purdue by 2,150.

So the Utah State game had 54,000 but then jumped 14,000 tickets for the next home game and then sold out the next.....exactly where is your evidence that they didn't make week-to-week decisions there?

Fun thing is we will find out. You seem to be saying that Iowa will not sell out the Maryland game at 7-0, fine, I will be there with my 70,584 friends while you sit at home.
 
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theIowaHawk said:
Bullshit.

Feel free to go back and look at my previous posts. When Iowa is 7-0 it will have no trouble selling out. After just 2-0 that number will be well over 60k, especially for a night game.
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Ordinarily I would agree with this, and maybe I do in this case. However, I think it really would take a 7-0 start to get a significant number of disaffected fans back in Kinnick. If the Hawks go 6-1 with a loss to Wisconsin, who have they beat?

I talked to a guy today who had season tickets every year since '82 until this year. He said the final straw for him was that he was told if he didn't contribute more money, his seats would be downgraded. That, together with the recent years and the weak home schedule, convinced him to bail.
 
Lone Clone said:
Ordinarily I would agree with this, and maybe I do in this case. However, I think it really would take a 7-0 start to get a significant number of disaffected fans back in Kinnick. If the Hawks go 6-1 with a loss to Wisconsin, who have they beat?

I talked to a guy today who had season tickets every year since '82 until this year. He said the final straw for him was that he was told if he didn't contribute more money, his seats would be downgraded. That, together with the recent years and the weak home schedule, convinced him to bail.
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I really would like to hear specifics from a guy like this. Unless he was in one of the very few sections that went from $0-$50 donation, nobody was downgraded or at risk of it, certainly not one who gained points since 1982.
 
CeMar_Clone said:
In the last 4 years, Iowa sold out 2 games, and both were Iowa State. Way to go.
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Huh?

Iowa sold out ISU, UNI, CMU, Minny, PSU, Purdue in 2012.

Obviously no ISU in 2013 and next sellout was ISU In 2014.

I'm not sure what you think you are claiming, but it ain't what you claim it is.

Edit to add: And obviously this isn't including 2011, which would be 4 seasons ago and sold out every home game....
 
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John.Kasich said:
7,000+ people that bought tickets last year decided that they didn't want to watch Iowa play football this year. They're not just going to change their minds after glorious victories over Illinois and Maryland. That was a season-long decision (possibly far longer). And check the boxscore from the 2002 Northwestern game. Iowa was 10-1 and ranked 5th in the country and attendance was several thousand short of a sellout. Football fans in this area do not make week-to-week ticket purchasing decisions.
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I think that says more about our fans than anything else............and no it's not a good thing.
 
Lone Clone said:
Ordinarily I would agree with this, and maybe I do in this case. However, I think it really would take a 7-0 start to get a significant number of disaffected fans back in Kinnick. If the Hawks go 6-1 with a loss to Wisconsin, who have they beat?
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Iowa State. :cool:
 
Hawks_Rock_12 said:
True, only Iowa has two Illinois St and North Texas
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This is one of those posts that shows what you actually know versus what you want people to think. Go look at schedules and tell me Iowa is the ONLY one that has 2 lower tier or FCS teams. I mean you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. ZERO!

Middle Tennessee and Louisiana Monroe - Alabama
Jacksonville State and Idaho - Auburn
Arkansas State and Idaho - USC
Wooford and Appalacian State - Clemson
Louisiana Monroe and Southern - Georgia
Texas State and Chattanooga - Florida State
Temple and Army - Penn State

I could go on all day. Dude at least have a clue what you are talking about. Well I guess one thing that has been proven here is that you don't have to have any facts to make your point.
 
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I think it is as much about HOW we win the first few games as it is DO we win the first few games as it relates to getting people back. 17-14 won't do it. Now if we come out and we see a different offensive style and excitement and win, then I think you will see over 65k for Pitt.
 
Packer54 said:
I think it is as much about HOW we win the first few games as it is DO we win the first few games as it relates to getting people back. 17-14 won't do it. Now if we come out and we see a different offensive style and excitement and win, then I think you will see over 65k for Pitt.
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There needs to only be 8,000 tickets sold to Pitt to reach that mark. It is a night game, don't you think that will automatically increase it? Also, it is against a P5 team, which should increase it as well. It won't take much to increase attendance, and I think wins over both ISUs takes care of that easily.

Now, the numbers for this game have proven me wrong so far, and could prove me wrong again. I just don't see less than 65k for Pitt, regardless of scores (in Ws).
 
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