Preseason polls lol

[jaysonjohn2012]

foe those of you who flip out over preseason polls. Go this from the Pitt board

As of now:

Auburn, from #6 to no votes
Oregon, from #7 to no votes
USC, from #8 to no votes
Georgia, from #9 to UR/#31
UCLA, from #13 to UR/#28
Arizona St, from #15 to UR/#33
GeorgiaTech, from #16 to no votes
Arkansas, from #18 to no votes
Wisconsin, from #20 to UR/#35
Arizona, from #22 to no votes
Boise St, from #23 to UR/#34
Missouri, from #24 to no votes
Tennessee, from #25 to no votes

 

[MepoDawg#]

Funny thing, 5 SEC teams and 5 PAC 12 teams on that list. Did they show the reverse, unranked to ranked?

 

[Chuck C]

This has been discussed ad nauseam, but they just need to get rid of the preseason polls. But they won't, it gives the pundits and fans something to bitch and complain about.

 

[09Hawk]

Only 1 BigTen team on the list, and Wisconsin dropped from #20 to #35....which isn't much.

 

[Servbot24]

This has been discussed ad nauseam, but they just need to get rid of the preseason polls. But they won't, it gives the pundits and fans something to bitch and complain about.

They only exist as a starting point. In no way have they ever been intended to mean anything significant.

 

[mthawkeyes]

They only exist as a starting point. In no way have they ever been intended to mean anything significant.

The intention isn't a problem. The reality is that the preseason rankings have a baked-in impact on the rankings during the season.

 

[icparkerhawk]

The intention isn't a problem. The reality is that the preseason rankings have a baked-in impact on the rankings during the season.

For instance, look at Stanford's schedule compared to our. They sit 2 spots ahead of us with a loss. The key win vaulting them up was over #6 at the time USC. They've played well and deserve to be close to us, but other than USC they have a home win over the 18th ranked team at the time, we have road wins over 19 and 20. The one shared opponent was a loss for them and a road win for us. But USC starting so high gives Stanford a huge win early which vaults them and now they won't fall unless they lose. If Pitt had arbitrarily been ranked in the top ten, perhaps we'd be in the top ten...

 

[yerpHAWK]

For instance, look at Stanford's schedule compared to our. They sit 2 spots ahead of us with a loss. The key win vaulting them up was over #6 at the time USC. They've played well and deserve to be close to us, but other than USC they have a home win over the 18th ranked team at the time, we have road wins over 19 and 20. The one shared opponent was a loss for them and a road win for us. But USC starting so high gives Stanford a huge win early which vaults them and now they won't fall unless they lose. If Pitt had arbitrarily been ranked in the top ten, perhaps we'd be in the top ten...

I agree, it's BS, The NW win should have at least vaulted us into the top ten. But while the pollsters just look at who you beat now, the playoff committee will take into account how the teams you played ended up.

 

[SoDakHawk]

If NW schedule was juggled a bit, instead of losing to Michigan so bad the week before they play Iowa they play somebody else and lose to Michigan later, and they had come into that game unbeaten that would have been huge for Iowa. Losing to Michigan so badly the week before took some shine off of the Hawks beat down. At the end if the year the record is the same and the wins and loses is the same but it's the order that effects perception.

 

[Bigfann1966]

foe those of you who flip out over preseason polls. Go this from the Pitt board

As of now:

Auburn, from #6 to no votes
Oregon, from #7 to no votes
USC, from #8 to no votes
Georgia, from #9 to UR/#31
UCLA, from #13 to UR/#28
Arizona St, from #15 to UR/#33
GeorgiaTech, from #16 to no votes
Arkansas, from #18 to no votes
Wisconsin, from #20 to UR/#35
Arizona, from #22 to no votes
Boise St, from #23 to UR/#34
Missouri, from #24 to no votes
Tennessee, from #25 to no votes

Like another poster said, this gives the spinning heads somethings to talk about. There should not be any ranking til mid season. Half way point you have an idea of what teams are doing and who should be ranked.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

For instance, look at Stanford's schedule compared to our. They sit 2 spots ahead of us with a loss. The key win vaulting them up was over #6 at the time USC. They've played well and deserve to be close to us, but other than USC they have a home win over the 18th ranked team at the time, we have road wins over 19 and 20. The one shared opponent was a loss for them and a road win for us. But USC starting so high gives Stanford a huge win early which vaults them and now they won't fall unless they lose. If Pitt had arbitrarily been ranked in the top ten, perhaps we'd be in the top ten...

Well said. This is what always helps SEC like OP mentioned how many teams pre season ranked or after 2nd week they had 10 teams in top 25 and now look how many they have ranked. But at the time it looks good when they are knocking off their own ranked conference teams.