Proctor is a Hawkeye
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Every other program does this - glad Iowa isn’t being prissy.
Those hillbillies are going through some things right now.Oh so now Alabama cares about tampering
Did Alabama Tamper With Iowa Commit Daviyon Nixon?
Iowa commit Daviyon Nixon has had quite a week, garnering an offer from the Alabama Crimson Tide. Did they commit a recruiting violation when they made the offer?www.blackheartgoldpants.com
But the timetable has nothing to do with it. The HC leaving is what spawned it. If you think you have to blame it on someone put the blame on Saban for not retiring sooner.
The portal will be open again in the spring.
Yes, it will be open again in the spring. But for now it is open to allow players from only about four schools to leave - Alabama, Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State. Those four schools are vulnerable to losing players right now and no one else is. If you can't see how that is unfair to those four schools then I honestly don't know how you function as an adult human being.
Alabama has lost 10 players to the portal since Saban retired. Julian Sayin and Caleb Downs both went to Ohio State. Sayin was the highest rated QB in high school last season. He graduated early so he could enroll this semester at Alabama and participate in spring practice. Instead, Sayin and Downs will be participating in spring practice with the Buckeyes. Alabama might find replacements for them when the portal opens again after spring practice, but those replacements won't have the benefit of participating in spring practice with the Tide. How does that not put Alabama at a disadvantage compared to Ohio State?
Kadyn Proctor will be eligible to participate in spring practice with Iowa. Alabama might find a new starting left tackle in the spring portal, but it won't be until after they've already finished spring practice. How is that fair to Alabama?
And then there are the dominoes that resulted from Saban's retirement. Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State are also losing players. But no one else in the country is.
If Harbaugh decides to jump to the NFL next week or next month then Michigan has a 30-day window where other teams can raid their roster. Sure, they'll get to replace some of them after spring practice, but the damage will have already been done. And that doesn't consider the domino effect that will result if they hire a coach away from another team, and then that team hires a coach away from another team, and so one and so on.
The end result of all this silliness is that already stratospheric coaching salaries are going to go even higher. Coaching candidates are going to leverage late season openings to get bigger and better contracts and some schools will pay them because the alternative is no longer just losing your coach, but now also losing half of your depth chart as well.
If we're going to have a transfer portal then it needs to have clearly defined dates that apply equally to everyone. Letting the entire country raid the rosters of a few schools simply because their coach retired or took another job after the regular portal session has already closed is a really, really bad idea.
I was merely correcting you that the recent Alabama portal announcements were because of a coaching change, not be cause of an arbitrary date.
Do you think it would be fair to the players to be forced to stay at a school where the head coach they committed to left? You seem much more interested in protecting the institutions than the players.
What date do you want to dictate that would solve the issue?
BTW, the dates provided do apply equally to every team. Each team does have different circumstances.
Your 'correction' was pointless and entirely unnecessary. At no time did I say the portal opening was 'arbitrary' and I was very clear from the beginning that the reason it opened at those four schools was because those four schools had a coaching change.
Like you said yourself - the portal will be open again in the spring. Go through spring practice with the team you committed to. If you don't like the new coaching staff then move on at that time. You shouldn't get to bail on your team and your teammates before you even know who the new coach is going to be.
I'm mostly interested in the NCAA creating rules that don't unfairly punish a program just because their head coach left. Professional sports leagues don't do that. The rest of the NFL doesn't get to raid New England's roster just because Bill Belichick left. NFL players don't get to opt out of their contracts and go to a new team of their choosing just because their coach left.
Nothing is going to 'solve' this issue. It's a huge fvcking mess. But I would start by eliminating the special portal window for players to leave teams after a coaching change.
I think Alabama, Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State would disagree with you.
And those circumstances now include other programs raiding your roster just because your head coach left.
LOL - the correction exposed the real reason players entered the portal was not because of a date, but because of a head coaching change. Likewise your suggestion of forcing players to stay with a program is dumb because that has long passed - the NCAA knows it is not enforceable. And coaches wouldn't want players taking up time and roster spots that they know are going to bolt. That's one of the reasons the declaration for the draft is so early.
Your comparison to the NFL is the most ignorant though. NFL players sign contracts, can be traded and have a union. None of that exists in the NCAA and there's little likelihood it will. The numbers of players alone make that approach unwieldy.
It's not unfair for those teams, they have been on the receiving side of this in previous years. Like most rules, this one affects different programs differently in different years. The rules are still the same for every team.
The 'correction' exposed absolutely nothing. I had already made it clear in multiple posts that the reason Alabama, Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State had the portal open was because Alabama, Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State had a coaching change after the normally scheduled portal was closed.
You are, by a very wide margin, the most persistently stupid poster on this board. Just shut the fvck up and move on to another thread.
Oh TJ, TJ, TJ. It's funny when you get your hackles up when your arguments are refuted. The only question left is will you make this into a multipage thread. History suggests so.
It turns out that Alabama, Washington, Arizona, and San Jose State might not have to wait until the spring portal to replace the players they recently lost. Michigan is about to have "different circumstances", as Riley refers to it. Harbaugh to the Chargers is all but a done deal, which means it's the Wolverines' turn on the rack. Now everyone will get to raid their roster for a few weeks. Sucks to be Michigan. But, hey, them's the breaks.
And of course Michigan is going to need a new coach. So unless they quickly name Sherrone Moore as Harbaugh's replacement, several big name coaches across the country are going to leverage the opening to extort even more money out of their current employers. Attention: LSU and Kansas State - get out your checkbooks or else you might be next.
This seems like a fantastic system. I can see why Riley is so fond of it.
And of course Michigan is going to need a new coach. So unless they quickly name Sherrone Moore as Harbaugh's replacement, several big name coaches across the country are going to leverage the opening to extort even more money out of their current employers. Attention: LSU and Kansas State - get out your checkbooks or else you might be next.
This seems like a fantastic system. I can see why Riley is so fond of it.
I love it when you finally get the answer right. Doesn't happen often enough though.
BTW - I've never said it is a fantastic system. That's just you making things up again.
What answer did I "finally get right"?
You have repeatedly defended it.
About how the rules apply equally to every team while the effect on them at any particular time is different.
I've pointed out why it is the way it is and reasons why it is that way. If that is defending it to you, so be it. I've never said it is a fantastic system - you're completely wrong about that.
Good to see you're learning though.
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