Proposed bill would ban minors from attending drag shows in Iowa

[Here_4_a_Day]

Alright @Here_4_a_Day, let’s find some common ground. Are you a bigger basketball or football fan?

You are a marxist...we'll never have anything in common.

 

[HawkNester]

You are a marxist...we'll never have anything in common.

Basketball or football?

 

[DooBi]

Yes.

Well that's up to you but you wouldn't be allowed near my kids. This is why we have to have these laws.

 

[RileyHawk]

Well that's up to you but you wouldn't be allowed near my kids. This is why we have to have these laws.

Why? Do you think a person wearing clothes of the opposite sex is threatening?

That doesn't surprise me.

 

[Hans81]

To be consistent they should make taking a minor to an R rated movie a felony as well, but that's not the point. This isn't about protecting children it's about continuing to marginalize LGBTQ citizens.

No, it is about protecting impressionable kids from early exposure to trans people.

 

[RileyHawk]

No, it is about protecting impressionable kids from early exposure to trans people.

Is it? Do you believe Ru Paul reading to children is somehow scarring for them?

 

[Hammerhead02]

Questionable parenting but not a felony.

I agree. Can you point to one instance of this happening in Iowa?

 

[Hammerhead02]

You letting your minor children to watch that movie?

Would you let a 17 year old? I guess it is no longer parental choice.

 

[DooBi]

Why? Do you think a person wearing clothes of the opposite sex is threatening?

That doesn't surprise me.

Because it has nudity and essentially rape. But you're obviously ok with your kid watching that.

 

[sober_teacher]

I didn’t say they should be. But sexually charged ones with children in the audience, absolutely.

the bill as written doesn't make that distinction.

Way too broad a brush. It's basically a toss the baby out with the bathwater bill:

Summary of the Proposed Iowa Bill on Drag Shows and Minors​

1. Main Purpose
   • The bill seeks to ban minors from attending drag shows in Iowa.
   • It defines a drag performance as when a performer presents a gender identity different from their assigned sex at birth through clothing, makeup, or accessories.
2. Criminal Penalties
   • Adults who knowingly bring a minor to a drag show could be charged with a Class D felony, punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine between $1,025 and $10,245.
   • Business owners who allow minors to attend drag performances could be fined $10,000 per minor in attendance.
3. Scope of Performances Affected
   • The bill broadly defines performances to include singing, lip-syncing, dancing, and readings.

So, if a high school puts on a performance of Grease and not enough male actors want to perform and a girl dresses up to play Danny Zuko, with this bill she's committing a felony.

Last year I saw a new production of 1776 - played by all women or LGTBQ+...all dressed as men. By how this bill is written they're all criminals.

Stop with the red herring. That’s not what this bill is for and you know it.

Then it's a poorly written law and shouldn't be passed as written.

This bill is written as a scare tactic first and foremost.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Because it has nudity and essentially rape. But you're obviously ok with your kid watching that.

Drag shows have nudity and rape. Thanks Rifler.

 

[Hans81]

Is it? Do you believe Ru Paul reading to children is somehow scarring for them?

“Scarring” may be a bit dramatic, but I certainly don’t think that’s a good role model for young kids. Do you?

 

[Hammerhead02]

“Scarring” may be a bit dramatic, but I certainly don’t think that’s a good role model for young kids. Do you?

So you believe that a parent doesn’t have the right to choose what they believe is what is best for their child.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Can we just ban trans altogether?

 

[KFsdisciple]

Who determines if it's funny or a felony?

Europe apparently. It seems hurting someone’s feelings is a jailable offense.

 

[KFsdisciple]

If you want to keep kids safe ban youth pastors.

This seems like whataboutism. The church doesn’t have to be perfect for this to be wrong.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Way too broad a brush. It's basically a toss the baby out with the bathwater bill:

Summary of the Proposed Iowa Bill on Drag Shows and Minors​

1. Main Purpose
   • The bill seeks to ban minors from attending drag shows in Iowa.
   • It defines a drag performance as when a performer presents a gender identity different from their assigned sex at birth through clothing, makeup, or accessories.
2. Criminal Penalties
   • Adults who knowingly bring a minor to a drag show could be charged with a Class D felony, punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine between $1,025 and $10,245.
   • Business owners who allow minors to attend drag performances could be fined $10,000 per minor in attendance.
3. Scope of Performances Affected
   • The bill broadly defines performances to include singing, lip-syncing, dancing, and readings.

So, if a high school puts on a performance of Grease and not enough male actors want to perform and a girl dresses up to play Danny Zuko, with this bill she's committing a felony.

The law isn’t the problem. If everyone wore seatbelts we wouldn’t need seatbelt laws, if people didn’t speed we wouldn’t need speed limits, etc.

 

[fsu1jreed]

the bill as written doesn't make that distinction.

Last year I saw a new production of 1776 - played by all women or LGTBQ+...all dressed as men. By how this bill is written they're all criminals.

Then it's a poorly written law and shouldn't be passed as written.

This bill is written as a scare tactic first and foremost.

Back in the day all women were played by men

 

[KFsdisciple]

Can we just ban trans altogether?

Believe it or not, I’m not actually for this, if a grown adult wants to play pretend they should be able to. They will be mocked and laughed at but hey they get to wear big girl panties!

 

[fredjr82]

Well that's up to you but you wouldn't be allowed near my kids. This is why we have to have these laws.

I don't let people who smoke or have smoked Meth around my kids. You should probably start there. Put down those rocks in your glass house.

 

[gohawks50]

No, it is about protecting impressionable kids from early exposure to trans people.

Doing drag does not mean the person is trans. Drag is a performance art. Transgender is about gender idenity.

 

[abby97]

No one takes you seriously.

And yet you respond.

 

[alaskanseminole]

The law isn’t the problem. If everyone wore seatbelts we wouldn’t need seatbelt laws, if people didn’t speed we wouldn’t need speed limits, etc.

In the 1960s, when seatbelt use was minimal, traffic fatality rate was around 50k deaths per year. Studies estimate that over half of these deaths involved unbelted occupants. Are you saying kids exposure to sexualized drag queen shows is somewhere in that range?

Also, if we MUST have another law ,can it be that officers can shoot red-light texters on sight? I'm about fed up with missing the light because some twattwaffle is on their phone.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Well that's up to you but you wouldn't be allowed near my kids. This is why we have to have these laws.