The SpaceX fan is an odd breed. Who else is convinced that their media consumption habits (i.e. reading rocket articles) are contributing to advancement of the species?
Good. Won’t have to see the absolute crap spillingHEY!!! He has "science degrees"!!! He also worked for NASA...(I'm beginning to wonder if there's another NASA out there). And he's a "lawyer" so you better watch out!!
I finally blocked him...he's a troll. He just wants to keep you arguing and will say any stupid shit to get it.
Same problem, you moron. The easiest way to mine asteroids is to go there, see what minerals you want, put them in the payload bay and head home without having to drag that monster with you.Yes....that's EXACTLY what I've told you here.
And - GUESS WHAT!!!?? - you could very likely use your attached rockets to send an asteroid towards Jupiter, and slingshot it straight back to where Earth will be in a few years....
#SlingshotEffect
#StandardDeepSpaceProbeTrajectories
Better than the little selfish, whiney, cowardly twits like you who want to sit on your fat asses and act like you did something that mattersThe SpaceX fan is an odd breed. Who else is convinced that their media consumption habits (i.e. reading rocket articles) are contributing to advancement of the species?
Right? How hard would it be to say “hey this launch was a cluster eff because Elon thought he was smarter than everyone else. But I still believe in the company and it’s mission.“The SpaceX fan is an odd breed. Who else is convinced that their media consumption habits (i.e. reading rocket articles) are contributing to advancement of the species?
No, dummy, that is you. You are doing that. Right now. And you don't realize it, which was my point. I take it you think it's courageous to read rocket articles? Thanks for your service, rocket article boy.Better than the little selfish, whiney, cowardly twits like you who want to sit on your fat asses and act like you did something that matters
Just get over yourself, Florida boy. We all know that the real reason that you and the rest of your allegedly “progressive” butt buddies on here are taking swipes at SpaceX.Right? How hard would it be to say “hey this launch was a cluster eff because Elon thought he was smarter than everyone else. But I still believe in the company and it’s mission.“
Instead we get 13 pages from his super fans telling us all this was the greatest success in modern history.
I didn’t just read rocket articles, I have participated in the aerospace industry as a lawyer and am proud of that. Much better than declaring yourself the UNINFORMED arbiter of the space exploration effort, like you have.No, dummy, that is you. You are doing that. Right now. And you don't realize it, which was my point. I take it you think it's courageous to read rocket articles? Thanks for your service, rocket article boy.
I didn’t just read rocket articles, I have participated in the aerospace industry as a lawyer and am proud of that. Much better than declaring yourself the UNINFORMED arbiter of the space exploration effort, like you have.
If you don’t have the desire and courage to participate, then sit on the sidelines and STFU.
Good luck with that you post-modernist Luddite. Nobody is gonna listen to your little cowardly whine. If they do, this society is in big trouble.No, I'll continue to criticize you self-important rocket idiots who see yourselves as saviors of the species. Thanks for your concern, though.
You seem to think space travel is the end all be all for humanity. The level of myopia is off the charts.Good luck with that you post-modernist Luddite. Nobody is gonna listen to your little cowardly whine. If they do, this society is in big trouble.
You guys aren’t progressive at all. You are just quitters.
I never said that. But it certainly is more important and beneficial than gun possession, oil and coal exploration, racism, military build-up, anti-wokeness, and an attitude that says - “We can’t do this, it’s too hard. We gotta fix Earth. We have to return to the days when exploration is considered a bad thing.”You seem to think space travel is the end all be all for humanity. The level of myopia is off the charts.
I will happily still bet you on the 6 month launch date, even with your amendment.So you’re trying to tell me that the static payload that Starship could potentially lift is equivalent to the mass and inertia of an asteroid large enough to survive Earth’s atmosphere, make it to the surface of the planet and then whatever is left of the asteroid and humanity- could be mined on the Earth’s surface (your original stupidity)? I think not.
The applicable equations of orbital mechanics may not differ greatly, but the RESULTS of those equations sure as Hell do when you apply distance, mass, inertia, and the effects of gravity to the two objects you are trying to get together.
BTW, I amended it to another launch in six months, Andy Kaufman, Jr. Check the thread. And that possibly is still doable.
Nobody here thinks exploration is bad. Speaking for myself, I do dislike neoliberalism which SpaceX is the poster child of. How long before they're contracting the military instead of the other way around? If the space mines are owned by a for-profit outfit and they're as lucrative as the "first trillionaire" rhetoric we've heard, they'll wield more political power than anyone in history. I certainly don't consider this concentration of power a good outcome, whatever the technology means for the species.I never said that. But it certainly is more important and beneficial than gun possession, oil and coal exploration, racism, military build-up, anti-wokeness, and an attitude that says - “We can’t do this, it’s too hard. We gotta fix Earth. We have to return to the days when exploration is considered a bad thing.”
Christ!
Tell the truth, you're like 15 aren't you?Just get over yourself, Florida boy. We all know that the real reason that you and the rest of your allegedly “progressive” butt buddies on here are taking swipes at SpaceX.
You don’t like Musk. Fine, I don’t either ever since he decided he was God, got into political shitflings, and bought Twitter. Ever since, his judgement seems to be way off, including his decision to launch Starship without a damper.
He should have stuck to Tesla and SpaceX.
The fact is that you wankers are just risk averse Luddites. Cuz you got a beef with a guy who isn’t.
Nope, you missed it by a couple decades, SherlockTell the truth, you're like 15 aren't you?
Not a bright 15, but still...15.
I call bullshit.Nope, you missed it by a couple decades, Sherlock
Well, here’s the deal, my good man. I’m not entirely sure why you consider that SpaceX is the poster child of neoliberalism other than that fool Musk being it’s founder. SpaceX is now 12,000 employees.Nobody here thinks exploration is bad. Speaking for myself, I do dislike neoliberalism which SpaceX is the poster child of. How long before they're contracting the military instead of the other way around? If the space mines are owned by a for-profit outfit and they're as lucrative as the "first trillionaire" rhetoric we've heard, they'll wield more political power than anyone in history. I certainly don't consider this concentration of power a good outcome, whatever the technology means for the species.
The easiest way to mine asteroids is to go there, see what minerals you want, put them in the payload bay and head home
Oh Balemboy. You are just envious of my prose and poetry! LolI call bullshit.
We have several attorneys on this board and none of them sound like triggered 15 year olds defending their favorite anime character.
You know bright boy, maybe we might do both?No; It's NOT "the easiest". That is WHY people are proposing to bring them back whole to the moon, or to Earth/Moon orbit.
Just because you saw a movie about this, doesn't make that a documentary...
My favorite part of this post was picturing you with a smile on your face as you typed it thinking it sounded so intelligent and grown up. Totally not something a 15 year old would type!Oh Balemboy. You are just envious of my prose and poetry! Lol
No one is envious of anything that you spew. None. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Belem is actually successful. You are a moron.Oh Balemboy. You are just envious of my prose and poetry! Lol
Oh, you can have your fantasies, I suppose.My favorite part of this post was picturing you with a smile on your face as you typed it thinking it sounded so intelligent and grown up. Totally not something a 15 year old would type!
You might be the biggest whacko-wanker I’ve ever seen on any board, GOHOX. I take it you and BalemNole got a “thing” going on?No one is envious of anything that you spew. None. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Belem is actually successful. You are a moron.
To be fair, you've probably only been on the internet for 2-3 years tops.You might be the biggest whacko-wanker I’ve ever seen on any board, GOHOX
And you have deduced that how, oh wise one?To be fair, you've probably only been on the internet for 2-3 years tops.
You know bright boy, maybe we might do both?
I didn’t say it wouldn’t be robotic, certainly initially, you twink. But I can tell you this - No robot is going to be able to latch onto an asteroid, sling it around Jupiter one time and have it rendezvous in Lunar or Earth orbit. Show me how that’s done, rocket boy? Let’s see the flight path and the orbital mechanics that works with that? You won’t cuz you can’t.No; we will not "do both"
Are you completely ignorant to the risks posed to space travelers once they move outside Earth's protective magnetic field? And the shielding needed to protect astronauts from cosmic rays?
Who will sign up for a ~10-20 year trip to go to an asteroid, with no guarantee you'll even get back? Even JUST going to Mars is a multi-year trip.
And this completely ignores the risks that zero-gravity poses to your health over just "a year" in space.
Space mining is going to be done robotically; they'll use robots to attach the thrusters to an asteroid, and slingshot it back towards Earth around Jupiter. They aren't going to run it like you see in the movies.
I have kids. So I recognize others.And you have deduced that how, oh wise one?
Yea but your kids have a functioning brain. Johnny Esquire and Rocketscientist fantasizes about one in the mental asylum that he's in.I have kids. So I recognize others.
You’re an ignorant idiot, who doesn’T know WTF he is talking about, and argues just for the sake of argument. I’m done with this thread.No; we will not "do both"
Are you completely ignorant to the risks posed to space travelers once they move outside Earth's protective magnetic field? And the shielding needed to protect astronauts from cosmic rays?
Who will sign up for a ~10-20 year trip to go to an asteroid, with no guarantee you'll even get back? Even JUST going to Mars is a multi-year trip.
And this completely ignores the risks that zero-gravity poses to your health over just "a year" in space.
Space mining is going to be done robotically; they'll use robots to attach the thrusters to an asteroid, and slingshot it back towards Earth around Jupiter. They aren't going to run it like you see in the movies.
That's EXACTLY what you've been stating here.I didn’t say it wouldn’t be robotic
LOLAnd radiation shielding has already been determined.