Public servants

[NorthernHawkeye]

Does this explanation resonate with people? Do most people seek out government jobs because of love of country? Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

"We provide a service to the public, and we don't do it for the money. We do it because we're passionate and because we care about these lands and we care about the people, the American people, you know?" she said. "So I'm a patriot, you know? I work for the federal government because I love this country. And I want to make a difference.And that that choice has been taken away from me now, and I'm unable to serve the public."

'Elon Musk doesn't even know my job exists,' fired federal worker says

Among the hundreds of people protesting in front of the U.S. Capitol on Monday were recently fired federal workers left devastated and uncertain by their terminations.

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[WadeLookingbill]

Does this explanation resonate with people? Do most people seek out government jobs because of love of country? Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

"We provide a service to the public, and we don't do it for the money. We do it because we're passionate and because we care about these lands and we care about the people, the American people, you know?" she said. "So I'm a patriot, you know? I work for the federal government because I love this country. And I want to make a difference.And that that choice has been taken away from me now, and I'm unable to serve the public."

'Elon Musk doesn't even know my job exists,' fired federal worker says

Among the hundreds of people protesting in front of the U.S. Capitol on Monday were recently fired federal workers left devastated and uncertain by their terminations.

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Public service jobs typically pay less than private sector jobs. So if someone is taking those jobs for "pay," they're doing it wrong.

 

[littlez]

Public service jobs typically pay less than private sector jobs. So if someone is taking those jobs for "pay," they're doing it wrong.

Can tell you my son is doing it and pay is not great. But it is what he wants to do because he wants to be outside and work amongst the parks and forests. So for assholes like you @NorthernHawkeye the answer is yes.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

Pensions used to be a big deal.

They still are in the public-sector.

/thread

 

[Scruddy]

Depends on the person/position but government jobs aren't an entitlement either.

 

[ISUBryce]

average government job pays 60k.

 

[littlez]

Depends on the person/position but government jobs aren't an entitlement either.

Who said they were? Let me ask you a question. Who do you and of course Trump, your savior, think is going to take care of our National Parks, our forest, our land? There is literally zero plan in place here and you all know it. You’re so enamored with just cutting because their job is part of the government.

 

[Scott559]

Does this explanation resonate with people? Do most people seek out government jobs because of love of country? Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

Every person is different and each have their own motivations in choosing a career/work place.

What motivated you in your career choice?

 

[HawkNester]

The oligarchs want servants. The data shows the amount of wealth they’ve taken from us while they bust unions. 3,2,1 before the cult members defend taking our resources.

 

[Scruddy]

Who said they were? Let me ask you a question. Who do you and of course Trump, your savior, think is going to take care of our National Parks, our forest, our land? There is literally zero plan in place here and you all know it. You’re so enamored with just cutting because their job is part of the government.

The parks department will be just fine lol your theatrics/doomsday drama fall on deaf ears, comrade. I frequent the national parks quite often and always notice a handful of parks dept folx just walking around/not actually working. I have no doubt there are unnecessary personnel that would have next to no impact on the parks if they weren't there.

 

[littlez]

The parks department will be just fine lol your theatrics/doomsday drama fall on deaf ears, comrade. I frequent the national parks quite often and always notice a handful of parks dept folx just walking around/not actually working. I have no doubt there are unnecessary personnel that would have next to no impact on the parks if they weren't there.

I’d love to see what you do for a job besides slobber on your fake picture of Trump where he “got his ear shot off.”

 

[littlez]

The oligarchs want servants. The data shows the amount of wealth they’ve taken from us while they bust unions. 3,2,1 before the cult members defend taking our resources.

You didn’t have to wait long for @Scruddy to chime in. When he’s at our National forest he peeks in with his binoculars and sees guys not working.

 

[Scruddy]

I’d love to see what you do for a job besides slobber on your fake picture of Trump where he “got his ear shot off.”

Trump got shot in the head and immediately stood up and hyped up the crowd. Your guy couldn't walk up a flight of stairs. Built different.

 

[HawkNester]

Trump got shot in the head and immediately stood up and hyped up the crowd. Your guy couldn't walk up a flight of stairs. Built different.

He looks good for a dead person. We must have a Weekend at Bernie’s development taking place in the White House.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Trump got shot in the head and immediately stood up and hyped up the crowd. Your guy couldn't walk up a flight of stairs. Built different.

"Shot in the head"

 

[Scruddy]

He looks good for a dead person. We must have a Weekend at Bernie’s development taking place in the White House.

Weekend at biden's ended last month, comrade! We've come a long way since then. 90% reduction in illegal border crossings and theyre talking to Russia about ending the ukraone war today

"Shot in the head"

Where is the ear located? You both are just so desperate on this topic 😂

 

[Joes Place]

Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

The pay/overall compensation is generally below private sector work.

With limited, or no, opportunities for any "bonuses"

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Can tell you my son is doing it and pay is not great. But it is what he wants to do because he wants to be outside and work amongst the parks and forests. So for assholes like you @NorthernHawkeye the answer is yes.

So not necessarily for love of country? Not necessarily to serve the public?

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Weekend at biden's ended last month, comrade! We've come a long way since then. 90% reduction in illegal border crossings and theyre talking to Russia about ending the ukraone war today

Where is the ear located? You both are just so desperate on this topic 😂

Just because he shit his pants when he fell doesn't mean he got shot in the ear bucko.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The pay/overall compensation is generally below private sector work.

With limited, or no, opportunities for any "bonuses"

A simple google search reveals that federal employees can receive bonuses.

 

[Joes Place]

A simple google search reveals that they can and do receive bonuses.

"limited"

 

[HawkNester]

Weekend at biden's ended last month, comrade! We've come a long way since then. 90% reduction in illegal border crossings and theyre talking to Russia about ending the ukraone war today

Where is the ear located? You both are just so desperate on this topic 😂

You missed the joke Scrud.

 

[littlez]

So not necessarily for love of country? Not necessarily to serve the public?

You guys are just so exhausting. I mean let’s just get rid of everything you and Scruddy don’t use. You both clearly never went to school so let’s close those all down and we can all home school our kids. What do we need college for? Stop that as well. Trash pickup? Just burn it in your backyard.

 

[boxahawks]

Nobody I worked with in Federal prisons did it for love of country. OTOH, I worked with a lot of marshals and FBI agents who probably did.

 

[Joes Place]

Does this explanation resonate with people? Do most people seek out government jobs because of love of country? Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

"We provide a service to the public, and we don't do it for the money. We do it because we're passionate and because we care about these lands and we care about the people, the American people, you know?" she said. "So I'm a patriot, you know? I work for the federal government because I love this country. And I want to make a difference.And that that choice has been taken away from me now, and I'm unable to serve the public."

'Elon Musk doesn't even know my job exists,' fired federal worker says

Among the hundreds of people protesting in front of the U.S. Capitol on Monday were recently fired federal workers left devastated and uncertain by their terminations.

abcnews.go.com

 

[littlez]

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But did he love his country ? @NorthernHawkeye wants to know. And @Scruddy just wants that guy to know he was probably entitled.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You guys are just so exhausting. I mean let’s just get rid of everything you and Scruddy don’t use. You both clearly never went to school so let’s close those all down and we can all home school our kids. What do we need college for? Stop that as well. Trash pickup? Just burn it in your backyard.

I graduated from an elite private university.

But this isn't about me.

 

[littlez]

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Just another one we don’t need. We’ll hire more 12 year olds to work the meat packing plants in Iowa and the poultry industry. We’ll be good.

 

[littlez]

I graduated from an elite private university.

But this isn't about me.

Oh stop it. You’re such a miserable **** I could see you going to a private school because your parents probably paid for it.

 

[DFSNOLE]

So not necessarily for love of country? Not necessarily to serve the public?

You truly are an asshole and obviously quite proud of it.

 

[Joes Place]

Oh stop it. You’re such a miserable **** I could see you going to a private school because your parents probably paid for it.

"Morningside College" is now an "elite university"

Had no idea...

 

[hexumhawk]

Pension is a large pusher for people imo.

 

[Aardvark86]

Does this explanation resonate with people? Do most people seek out government jobs because of love of country? Or is the pay, benefits and pension a driving factor?

"We provide a service to the public, and we don't do it for the money. We do it because we're passionate and because we care about these lands and we care about the people, the American people, you know?" she said. "So I'm a patriot, you know? I work for the federal government because I love this country. And I want to make a difference.And that that choice has been taken away from me now, and I'm unable to serve the public."

'Elon Musk doesn't even know my job exists,' fired federal worker says

Among the hundreds of people protesting in front of the U.S. Capitol on Monday were recently fired federal workers left devastated and uncertain by their terminations.

abcnews.go.com

all kinds of people do it for all kinds of reasons.

For example, the usual 'model' for people at the DDC USAO is to go in, do your time for a while, and get out at the right time to a big firm, ie, it's a steppingstone for them.

I have little doubt that people working for the forest service or NPS do it because they're passionate about it because it's hard and doesn't pay that well.

Some may do it for the benefits and the fact that a conventional "retirement" at an age you can still do something else is an entirely plausible pathway.

none of these reasons are better or worse than any other.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I graduated from an elite private university.

But this isn't about me.

 

[littlez]

You just can’t make this shit up.

 

[DFSNOLE]

You just can’t make this shit up.

Northern obviously can.

 

[eb05]

The parks department will be just fine lol your theatrics/doomsday drama fall on deaf ears, comrade. I frequent the national parks quite often and always notice a handful of parks dept folx just walking around/not actually working. I have no doubt there are unnecessary personnel that would have next to no impact on the parks if they weren't there.

many parks employees live in the park. seeing them walk around not working could mean a lot of things, breaks, lunch, before/after work, to and from worksites. this is such a bs statement.

 

[littlez]

many parks employees live in the park. seeing them walk around not working could mean a lot of things, breaks, lunch, before/after work, to and from worksites. this is such a bs statement.

Son will be living on site 5 days a week. You’re correct.

 

[stout1]

While I find the OP pedantic, I will answer...

When I graduated from college I went to work in the construction trades specializing in luxury home building. After about 3 years of that I made the decision to transition into the school finance world as a consultant. Part of this was the immense job dissatisfaction working for feckless, entitled asshats. A larger part of this is I derived zero satisfaction from my job because I wanted to affect positive results in our world.

After a number of years as a consultant and some decent income years I went to work full time in a school corporation. Since that transition I have spent 16 years in the public sector (either for a local school corporation or in state government) where I find the satisfaction of public service to be high and the pay and benefits to be enough to provide for my family without much financial worry. We have been fortunate that we do have other resources at our disposal from family enterprises that allow us to take on expenditures outside our household budget (small home renovations, paying for 2 years of college for each kid, special vacations, etc), but we are not wealthy by any means.

Do I work in this field solely because of the positive impact I have on kids and our community? No. Is that a huge part of why I choose to stay in this world as opposed to chasing a similar job in the private sector? Yes. I could definitely make more in the private sector, and some people have reach out to me about those jobs, but at this time the combination of all the positives outweigh me leaving.