He wasn't good enough for you last year? So now is the time to give up, 2 games into the season? It really is just mind boggling. There is no satisfying some people
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This. Stanley seems to get a free ride. He has been underwhelming in more games than he has been good in.
Iowa and KF are the rare college program where playing the backup QB is off the table no matter how bad the starter plays.
I think the Iowa style offense works better when the QB is more mobile. Iowa offense so far this year is below average (again).
I think the Iowa style offense works better when the QB is more mobile. Iowa offense so far this year is below average (again).
The QB merry go round seems to be working really well for PU NW & others
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I like Stanley, I support him. I just think, as another poster said, he hasn't improved much through all of the chances he has had. And honestly, he just isn't a leader. He doesn't seem to have that "fire" in him to want to win. The overthrows and underthrows and lack of playmaking...let's see what kind of fire a
Solid point. I just want to see more of what Mansell can do but I need to be more patient.The QB merry go round seems to be working really well for PU NW & others
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I did get a good chuckle earlier in the year about Stanley and his "prototypical" NFL size and he'd be gone to the Pro's and yada, yada, yada. LOL! He has been awful in the two home wins. Benchable for sure.
I thought he would be OK for the most part this year, and I wasn't expecting Chuck Long,
But I sure didn't expect him to look like crap in two home games in a row against NIU & ISU.
Didn't think it would occur to me all year to want him benched, but I wouldn't shed a tear if it happened.
I thought he would be OK for the most part this year, and I wasn't expecting Chuck Long,
But I sure didn't expect him to look like crap in two home games in a row against NIU & ISU.
Didn't think it would occur to me all year to want him benched, but I wouldn't shed a tear if it happened.
Is all our problems the QB or could it be the play calling? Or maybe who the D is? Every year this board wants the new QB who apparently hasn't proven himself in practice. The last 3 or 4 Iowa QB all suck per this board. It might be true but the coaches spend 16 hours a day on this and you guys only spend 4 hours a week and a case of beer
We're not Alabama or Ohio State who have the pick of the litter every year..Better linemen and better receivers might make Stanley a All American. We'll never know. Who would have thought that Bethard or Rudock could possible make the NFL..Stanley checked in to the pass to Brandon Smith at the LOS. He’ll get settled in and confident. Way too early to talk about QB changes. He’s also 2-0
He certainly is playing poorly. I would hope that the QB position is always up for grabs just like Jones getting benched and Hockaday replacing him. If Stanley is struggling and there is a com,petent replacement ready and able, bench him.
I think this is the main issue. The QB issues are inherent with the system.
However, I will take 13-3 over ISU, and I'll take 33-7 over NIU. ONE freshman mistake yesterday could have lost that game. I'm willing to give ISU credit for good defense based on what I've seen from them in the past. Lest we forget, ISU gives us problems when they suck. Now, ISU (I think) has a pretty competitive team, and I believe they returned about 9 starters on D, so it's no miracle they stymied our offense much of the day.
Let's see what happens against the clearly inferior UNI team.
Lets see......coming off of an 8-5 year with a new offensive coordinator and a first year quarterback and a couple of really close losses while crushing Ohio State beating Iowa State and winning their bowl game and now this year 2-0 against a couple of tough teams and we need a new quarterback? We need the guy who is second string who lost out to the guy who is first string to do what exactly?
And that's why Nick Saban wins National Championships. Jalen Hurts was 25-2 in his career as a starter but was underperforming in the NC game. So, in the second half, he replaced Hurts with a true freshman. What do ya do if Stanley is underperforming and Wisconsin is up by two touchdowns?
Yes. I'm easily satisfied. I'd like a Quarterback that doesn't throw 9 feet behind a wide open Fant or overshoot a wide open Easly. Those seem like simple request for a third year guy with 15 starts under his belt.
I think Stanley is the best qb with the best handle on the offense on the team. He hasn’t thrown the ball well at times, and other times receivers have dropped great passes. Both kill our offense and make the run game more difficult.
I wouldn’t mind Mansell getting a series or two a game like Banks in 2001, if he brings a different dimension. Is he a scrambling quarterback that provides a run threat where Stanley doesn’t? If he’s just a younger pocket passer, there’s no reason to insert him unless Stanley becomes the primary reason the offense struggles, and so far he isn’t.
I’m not giving up hope that the offense will start clicking soon. They have, however, been dreadful to watch at times this season.
I wouldn’t mind Mansell getting a series or two a game like Banks in 2001, if he brings a different dimension. Is he a scrambling quarterback that provides a run threat where Stanley doesn’t? If he’s just a younger pocket passer, there’s no reason to insert him unless Stanley becomes the primary reason the offense struggles, and so far he isn’t.
I’m not giving up hope that the offense will start clicking soon. They have, however, been dreadful to watch at times this season.
Yep. That never works. Never should have replaced Christiansen with Stanzi. What were the coaches thinking?
The entirety of the offense sputtering is not on Stanley. Neither is he performing like the NFL draft pick some wanted to proclaim him. He's shown a lot of the same positives and negatives as last year.
Reality is that with Kirk at the helm he tends to pick a starter and that's the starter for the year, with a few exceptions.
I'm not arguing to start Mansell. Far from it. I just have never bought into the idea that a QBs ego is so fragile that he can't handle sitting for a series or two during a game if the offense is ineffective. Every other player on the field is out at some point and it doesn't seem to destroy their confidence.
Reality is that with Kirk at the helm he tends to pick a starter and that's the starter for the year, with a few exceptions.
I'm not arguing to start Mansell. Far from it. I just have never bought into the idea that a QBs ego is so fragile that he can't handle sitting for a series or two during a game if the offense is ineffective. Every other player on the field is out at some point and it doesn't seem to destroy their confidence.
There were open receivers/TE yesterday and time to find them. Seems like Stanley is afraid to make a mistake back there. If he doesn't get his stuff together, no way we compete for the West title with Wisky. Wisconsin has a defense that is one of the best in the country and they totally dominated Iowa last year. Without Josh Jackson's TDs, it would have been a laugher. Let's hope Nate gets his sh!t together next week and helps us beat Wisky.
I like Stanley, but when he is off his game Mansell would be an option. Glad to see Tyler Weigers have an outstanding game against Purdue. Coaches think they will offend the 1st stringer if they play the 2nd stringer, an example is Urban Meyer playing Barret because he was his friend when his substitute was better.
Iowa's middle linebacker was replaced when he had a few problems, but he will l get the opportunity to play later, but 2nd string quarterbacks don't get the opportunity like the other players on the team in Iowa system. Took Heisman candidate Brad Banks a long time to play, and Tyler Weigers looked very good.
The Iowa defense has put our Offense in some damn good spots early on this year, and what they've got rewarded with is a meh.
Stanley is not a strong leader as someone else pointed to. Drew tate was a leader, sometimes a little crazy but a good leader. I think it helps everyone when they know the qb is gonna take charge and do whatever they can to win. Beathard is another example of a true leader. Injuries just killed him from being the best he could have been.
I also believe KF is so anti-mistake that the qb's are scared shittless to take chances.
I also believe KF is so anti-mistake that the qb's are scared shittless to take chances.
Mansell threw one pass for like 30 yards. I know it was moo up duty but the guy wants to move the chains. I think they should design a package or two for him with his mobility as an excuse.
He was also a shining star in the spring game. I think if more people read his background they would see his potential. FYI just behind Mansell is 4 star recruit Spencer Petras. QB play is going to be exciting in the future. *Crosses fingers*
I will quietly from a dark corner toss this idea a bone...I REALLY hope Stanley does loosen up. Right now, he is grossly misreading the field; he’s underthrowing WRs, throwing into coverage. It’s still early, but by week 3 he needs to be getting it together.
He is also way late on quick passes. The slant pass stanzi threw to beat Michigan State would have been in the back of the end zone by the time he threw it.
I think the last thing this team needs is a QB controversy. I’m confident Nate is the guy who should be starting and getting the majority of the snaps. He’s not perfect but he’s shown enough over his career that I’m happy to have him leading the offense.
Good post. Stanley has been very disappointing. I haven't seen any improvement from last season yet. His footwork and accuracy are still sloppy at times. I hope he can become the outstanding QB that so many assume he will be. He has along way to go yet at this point.
QB seems to be the only position protected in Kirk's system no matter how poorly he performs. That said, I haven't totally given up on Stanley, but he looks extremely tight out there.
Yep Stan is uptight, stood and over thinking his play right now. He has to loosen up and react more than try to aim passes. Just doesn't look right on a lot of passes. The more time he has the more he over thinks the throw.
It actually helps. The last thing any starter needs to believe is his job is safe with bad play. Stanley looks uncomfortable and his accuracy has been terrible these last 2 games
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