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"really like to thank my parents for not changing my gender when I went through my tomboy phase"

Uhhh...whut? It's about teaching your kids they aren't constrained by society's assigned gender roles. You know...women can be doctors or engineers and men can be nurses or *gasp* stay-at-home parents. I would think you would get that.
I didn’t have to be raised gender neutral to figure out what I was going to do with the rest of my life. I figured it out in high school
 
I agree. So how do we support kids who are struggling in the meantime? We certainly need to put a stop to bullying, hate, and the like. I also agree that 99.999(lot's of 9s per Tar's request)% of parents aren't pushing this nor do they want it for their kids, but it would be foolish to think that there aren't cases where it occurs too early in life.

I think of my own immaturity at varying stages/ages of youth and how I think of things so drastically different than all the versions of my younger self. Bottom line (for me) is I'm not against adults making decisions they believe are best for them; I just think many decisions shouldn't be made as kids. I think @TarponSpringsNole said she made the decision at 26.

Lastly, I don't think there needs to be this "save the children" outcry either. I would only hope to encourage any parents [that I knew personally] of a child with gender dysphoria to wait while also ensuring my own family is understanding of what the family, especially the child, is dealing with.




I also agree with this. We're not talking about a tomboy phase here. This is deep inside someone's being. It's like dad's freaking out that their son is playing with their sister's barbies or tried on their mom's heels. Relax. Breathe.
The first link is a good story but doesn't really apply...and in fact makes the case for intervention.

When I was a little girl living in the Midlands, I used to say, “When I grow up, I want to be a boy.” I even used to wee standing up. I loved playing football, but when I was about seven my friends said I had to stop because I was a girl. I told them I didn’t see what difference that made, and one of them pulled his shorts down and showed me. A sickening feeling washed over me: something about me, and my body, was wrong.

These feelings became more powerful as I grew older. When I saw my chest changing I was horrified; I developed an eating disorder to try to delay puberty, cut my hair short and started binding my chest. I was depressed and tried to kill myself. At 14, I was admitted to a psychiatric hospital for a couple of months.

So here's a child suffering horribly and damaging herself to prevent puberty...nearly leading to suicide. What if she had succeeded? So what's worse - leaving her to her own devices or using medical intervention to delay puberty until her issues can be resolved?

My parents were stunned, and tried to convince me to start embracing life as a woman. They arranged for someone to teach me how to apply makeup, hoping that if I learned to look more like other girls, I would feel more like them.


And you have posters on here mocking gender neutral parenting. Had this girl - and her parents - understood that she wasn't defined by her gender in terms of what she could do, perhaps none of this happens.

It wasn’t until I was 15 that I found out about transitioning. Everything fell into place: this was who I was. I realised I could have the body I wanted. When I went to my GP, aged 17, I was told I was too old to refer to children’s services and too young to be seen as an adult; I didn’t get my first appointment until three months after my 18th birthday.


And finally, she made the decision as an adult any way you want to play it. She wasn't coerced in any way except by society's treatment of her - and ultimately women. And it wasn't the decision that failed her, it was her realization that no matter what, she would NEVER be seen as "male". Had there been correct care provided when she was younger she might never have made the choice. Had there not been a botched operation and if society had been accepting of her as male, she might have been perefectly happy with the transition. Bottom line, the article is screaming for MORE intervention early rather than none.
 
Tucker Carlson peed his pants over her, you’ll know who she is when you catch up on the episodes you have taped on your VCR.
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I googled her. Somewhat popular pop singer. Not shocking as a 40 male idk those people.
 
I didn’t have to be raised gender neutral to figure out what I was going to do with the rest of my life. I figured it out in high school
You decided on nursing in high school? You didn't even try premed? I always assumed* male nurses just got weeded out of premed in undergrad bio.


I'm kidding. I also saw Meet The Parents.
 
Assigned gender roles are way outdated. As a father of two daughters, I've raised them both with the notion they can do anything they set their minds to...reach for the stars! I am also raising a son to cook, clean, iron AND change the oil, mow the lawn, and swap out a kitchen faucet. Limitations should be based on ability/aptitude, not race, gender, etc. Of course, I'm preaching to the choir with this response.
I think that is totally great. We all want our kids to become who they want to be. Gender roles may not be outdated. There are likely some biological preferences that aid in the determinations of personalities, career choices, etc. The gender equality paradox for women in STEM is a good example. For as many people griping about STEM positions, advocates don't seem to have an equal passion about making men become teachers or study humanities.

 
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It continues to amaze me the amount of controversy surrounding gender dysphoria in this country. Of the births in the US each year (~1.8 million) about 60 males and 18 females will eventually be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Yet conservatives are doing their best to convince the uneducated that there's a dark coordinated liberal movement nationwide to make all of our kids transgendered, and to make transgender people out as some sort of evil, villainous monsters which is apropos since their conservative agenda is nearly always hate driven. It's all a massive lie conjured up by the conservative mainstream media for the ignorant idiots to consume and worry about.
 
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Sorry, how about 8 years old
Isn't 9 kind of the extreme low end for puberty starting in females? And a little later for males? I'm not in psychiatry, pediatric medicine, or similar so I'm not qualified to give you an answer on the right age for puberty blockers. It would just be surprising to me if kids were being given puberty blockers years before puberty begins.
 
Isn't 9 kind of the extreme low end for puberty starting in females? And a little later for males? I'm not in psychiatry, pediatric medicine, or similar so I'm not qualified to give you an answer on the right age for puberty blockers. It would just be surprising to me if kids were being given puberty blockers years before puberty begins.
Yeah but WHAT IF they're giving them to FIVE YEAR OLDS, huh? HUH? What then? Monsters!!!!!
 
Looks like another twitter brawl. Famous folk need to learn to just keep their views to themselves. Not worth it in the social media era.

It's America she has a right to express her gratitude to her parents. Anyone who begrudges her that can eat sh--.
 
Isn't 9 kind of the extreme low end for puberty starting in females? And a little later for males? I'm not in psychiatry, pediatric medicine, or similar so I'm not qualified to give you an answer on the right age for puberty blockers. It would just be surprising to me if kids were being given puberty blockers years before puberty begins.
You would think an RN would know that.
 
If it has nothing to do with a child being potentially trans then why do it?

Why should you force your son to play sports, hammer nails, work on cars, drink beer, and do other “manly” stuff if they don’t like it?

Why should you prevent your daughter from those same activities if they do like it?

That’s the point of gender neutral approach to parenting. Let your kids figure out what they like rather than forcing them to conform to activities deemed “gender appropriate”.

Do you disagree with that?

It has absolutely nothing to do with transgenders. Zero. Nothing.
 
You would think an RN would know that.

Dr. Cartaya says puberty typically starts between the ages of 8 and 13. For a child who was assigned male at birth, the range is between 9 and 14.

Now go back to your hole
 
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Why should you force your son to play sports, hammer nails, work on cars, drink beer, and do other “manly” stuff if they don’t like it?

Why should you prevent your daughter from those same activities if they do like it?

That’s the point of gender neutral approach to parenting. Let your kids figure out what they like rather than forcing them to conform to activities deemed “gender appropriate”.

Do you disagree with that?

It has absolutely nothing to do with transgenders. Zero. Nothing.
I have no problem with that but these parents are taking it a step further by not using any gender identifying pronouns, and gender neutral clothing, etc, etc
 
Does it bother you that society looks down on male nurses as inferior men?
Frankly I don't give a sh^& what they think. 1. If they knew me they wouldn't have a problem with it, and 2. They would never say it to my face because there would be consequences
 
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Dr. Cartaya says puberty typically starts between the ages of 8 and 13. For a child who was assigned male at birth, the range is between 9 and 14.

Now go back to your hole
So you learned that your suggestion of age 6-7 for puberty blockers was ignorant and absurd. Good for you.
 
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So you learned that your suggestion of age 6-7 for puberty blockers was ignorant and absurd. Good for you.
Wrong, yes, ignorant and absurd, no, it didn't measure up to patients with brain injuries can't type.
 
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