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What are you talking about. You said "No DI wrestler should ever get pushed around," I disagree. Maybe you have a hard time with reading comprehension. I'm not burying myself, you just can't follow a thought pattern correctly when in written form.
Absolutely! I dislike stalling as I have said repeatedly. I just also dislike fans calling for stalling when the criteria for stalling hasn't been met in my opinion. Which some fans do quite often around here!
Again, not in the BS vs JT match specifically, just in general.
Seriously 6,000 posts and you haven't figured out how conversations work on these forums? No wonder you have about 1 like for every 6 posts you make.
Ahh the like to post ratio. The thread was predominantly about that match. You chimed in. You get what you get on this one
Go count the posts above mine again.
Then go back to thinking about how awesome you are. Scratch that......used to be.
I think everybody made that leap because it was in the context of the conversation. We were talking about TShirt, you jump in with your two cents. By the way, some Iowa guys needed to get called as well. How many times have we had posts of people complaining that an Iowa guy doesn't shoot?
doesn't matter you threw in the iowa fan boy crack, after that you are sunk. if you do not like iowa fans do not come to an iowa forum, that goes for every non iowa poster, if you don't like why are you here other than to stir sh$t.
Well, one ignore today, with three more on probation. Not that I'm afraid of opposing views, I just don't have time for idiots.
First off Ace, I NEVER said "No DI wrestler should ever get pushed around,". NEVER. Not only did I not say it; but, nobody in this thread said it. Who are you quoting and from where? You are coming off as a very dishonest person.
I'll just stop at "First off". You have lost all credibility.
People were talking about referees and officiating on the weekend. A couple people used the BS v JT match as a specific example.
As for your question about posts complaining about Iowa guys who don't shoot? I don't know, but I can tell you I have read a lot more complaining about other team's wrestlers stalling. Iowa does have some of the more prolific non-scorers in NCAA wrestling right now when competing against ranked competition rather than DI fridge NQ's or non qualifier, excluding heavyweights. Dean Heil is obviously #1 in this regard, but Brandon Sorensen is perhaps #3. I'll give #2 to Tshirtis. Gunther is up there though too, just not as notable. Cash, Bowman, Laux/Glynn (133) and Turk/Happel (141) certainly would never be confused for an Ian Miller let it fly scoring machines. Stoll could be included in this too even though we tend to forgive it a little more in heavyweights, hence why I excluded them in the overall ranks. That is a valid point you make there.
I question though if over half the starting lineup rarely shoots against real competition anymore then what is "Iowa's style" currently? It certainly is not Kemerer's style, who is the only starter who wrestles to score bonus points all the time, his style is what I believe people think of when they say "Iowa style" historically, but how would you describe the current teams style?
That is classic from the guy who took my original post. Go read it again and responded with the first quote.
Hahaha you honestly can't read. It is hilarious.
I'm done here. I'm sorry you all are so sensitive. I think I finally understand what a "snowflake" is that all this politically inclined people are always talking about.
Keep crying about "They are stalling!" "We would win NCAA's if the ref's would just call stalling correctly!"
You have, what, two guys in the starting lineup that are enjoyable to watch anymore? Iowa Style!
Oh look another top 10 recruit committed to Penn State...
But but but, we would have fun too if only teams didn't stall against us all the time. In fact we would have a blast!
Oh look another top 10 recruit committed to Penn State...
But but but, Sorensen is a winner!
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Wahhhh wahhhh Wahhhhh....isn't that what you posted earlier when I questioned stalling?
hahahha hypocritical know it all, hahaha or should I say "snowflake."
See now, that I completely agree with. Stalling should be called quicker in situations such as that. No need for a conversation, let alone two, fire up the stall call, that will be much more effective.
Just as some programs complete the transformation of going from good program to an elite program like Penn State and Ohio State have done over the last decade.
While other's have done the opposite transformation like Nebraska Football or Tennessee Women's basketball.
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Lmao. Thanks for putting that image into my head. That was a nice laugh.
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I've seen way more college wrestlers lose matches because of the ref swallowing a whistle on blatant stalling as opposed to college wrestlers winning matches by being gifted a questionable stalling point by the ref. If you're going to make these claims give us some video evidence as an example of a wrestler getting screwed by an undeserved stalling point against an Iowa guy in Carver.
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lol the idea of giving a forum poster probation before you ignore them is hilarious to me.
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Sorensen is at 67% bonus on the year. 61% for all of last year. Joseph from PSU was 42% last year. Mark Hall was 62% last year. Tomasello was 48% last year. Darrian Cruz was 47% last year, 56% this year. Desanto is only at 56% this year.
Keep digging yourself into a hole man.
Well done. I was wondering about Sorensen's bonus %. Comparing him as a little less worse than TShirt is a big time non starter
In general, they have to prove to me they really are idiots or incorrigible, not just drunk or fooling around, or pulling someone's chain.
Uh oh...somebody presented facts that contradict an opinion. That won't be well received at all. I award you twoooooooooooo and raise my fist for a stall warning for the opinion person.
Tbf, justwrestle133 is correct if he was referring to Sorensen. He shuts down against top 20. I just did a quick search through WrestleStat. Looks like he has bonus 5 or 6 top 20 opponents in his career.
Uh Oh! Go look at what I wrote again. Look at the words I actually said. "Against Ranked Competition." Now look at the facts again. 5 bonus points victories in his career is the finding.
Uh- Oh! Someone isn't going to like those FACTS!
Look at that, another premature fan looking for a call too early when the criteria hasn't been met yet.
I never said that.
I said fans will call for stalling before it actually is there. You see that all the time. Basically every time fans are chanting for stalling meets my criticism.
The criteria is eventually met and the referee calls stalling and then the fans that were cheering for the stalling prematurely feel vindicated like they were "right all along" and says like "finally, he has only been stalling for the last 2 minutes." That Re-enforces the behavior in my opinion. It is just annoying. I didn't realize Iowa fans were so sensitive to something that is sooo obvious that it is literlly the "Iowa Fan stereotype" if it was on an SNL skit.
Like the "Bears fans"skit that say "Ditka is the (fill in the blank) toughest, best, whatever and they say "Da Bears."
Iowa fans sub in Gable for Ditka and call for stalling all the time.
I didn't see the facts of how the other people did in getting bonus points against ranked competition. Are you now like the Iowa fan calling for stalling early when you haven't met the criteria of presenting all of the facts on the matter?
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