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So when I push the lever for water to come out of my fridge it doesn't work. I thought possibly the waterline in the back had a kink. Pulled it out and it was fine.

I also emptied the ice maker to see if the refrigerator wasn't getting any water to make ice either. The next day I opened it and it was full again.

Any ideas what the issue may be?
 
Filter? I believe there is a filter that goes into those refrigerators. If I remember correctly the one at work quit working and the filter was replaced and it started working again. That could have been a dream I had though.

Is there a fuze that controls the water dispenser? Blown fuze?

GFCI outlet needs to be reset?

I'm just spitballing here
 
Filter? I believe there is a filter that goes into those refrigerators. If I remember correctly the one at work quit working and the filter was replaced and it started working again. That could have been a dream I had though.

Is there a fuze that controls the water dispenser? Blown fuze?

GFCI outlet needs to be reset?

I'm just spitballing here


I have no idea, but wouldn't the filter also be used when making ice?

Is there a different fuse for the water control and the ice maker?
 
I have no idea, but wouldn't the filter also be used when making ice?

Is there a different fuse for the water control and the ice maker?

Good point. I assume the filter would the same for water and ice. Not sure about the fuse

What's the make and model of the fridge?
 
I had this issue with my GE. It turned out the line was frozen. Apparently over time the insulation gets wet and the line freezes. GE actually had a fix for it. It was a small part that attached by the despenser and heated the area enough to keep it from freezing. No issues since.
 
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Filter? I believe there is a filter that goes into those refrigerators. If I remember correctly the one at work quit working and the filter was replaced and it started working again. That could have been a dream I had though.

Is there a fuze that controls the water dispenser? Blown fuze?

GFCI outlet needs to be reset?

I'm just spitballing here
This happened to ours at home (GE Profile), and we changed the filter and it worked again. Now we get filters automatically delivered about every 6 months.

I really don't know why it's like that.
 
This happened to ours at home (GE Profile), and we changed the filter and it worked again. Now we get filters automatically delivered about every 6 months.

I really don't know why it's like that.


It still made ice tho? If so, does that mean the ice is gross?
 
The water in the line may be frozen although if you pulled the line out to check it, it should have thawed. Sorry just thinking out loud.
 
Yes it does, as soon as I press it.

Either they have it set up so the water is blocked when the filter runs out (razor-blade revenue model, which is sheer awesomeness), or you do have a solenoid valve that is blocked/frozen for the water inlet. The 'hum' you hear is the power supply running juice through the valve, so that means you do have 12 or 24V power going to it (if you have a voltmeter, you can check that on the contacts, too). There are 2 of these solenoid valves on your water inlet part - one to feed the icemaker and one for the water dispenser.

I have had those valve go bad on a refrigerator, and a top load washer back when I was in CA.
But generally, when the solenoid valves start going bad, the water dispenser will drip water before it totally freezes up (valve doesn't close all the way); your problem sounds like it is frozen shut, and if you have hard water, that could be the issue.

If you know your refrigerator model number, you can look up the part here:

http://www.repairclinic.com/

This is what they typically look like:
Water-Inlet-Valve-WR57X10032-00802896.jpg


They are very accessible on the lower back panel of the fridge (the water line goes straight into these). BUT, make sure you have a valve shutoff for the water line to the fridge before you do anything - many people who 'self install' ice/water capable fridges don't add those in when they tap off a sink line, which makes it a giant pain in the ass to work on them, as you have to shut water off at the sink or the whole house.

If you can identify the solenoid valve part on that site, it will only require a screwdriver and wrench (plus maybe some Teflon tape) to remove the old part and pop in the new one. It is just 2 spade-lug electrical contacts (low voltage) and water connections no more complicated than a toilet or sink. You could also take the old part out and see if you can wash/clean out the valve components, but that's a temporary fix because once the hard water buildup starts, unless you chemically clean it, it will clog up faster next time.

You can buy the part from this site, or you can find a local supplier - I used to buy mine locally once I looked up the P/N info here, so if I found out it didn't fit or wasn't correct, it was easier to return.

Most of these types of things on your household appliances are 1950's-Era technologies, and are not complicated at all to do yourself (can probably find Youtube videos that walk you through them as well). If you call someone else to do it, expect at least $50-75 in 'site-service' fees just for showing up, plus hourly charges plus parts, which will generally cost $150-250 total vs. the $25-50 if you buy the parts and DIY.
 
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So when I push the lever for water to come out of my fridge it doesn't work. I thought possibly the waterline in the back had a kink. Pulled it out and it was fine.

I also emptied the ice maker to see if the refrigerator wasn't getting any water to make ice either. The next day I opened it and it was full again.

Any ideas what the issue may be?
The issue is you bought a refrigerator with a water dispenser. You probably have one with an ice dispenser or at least an icemaker, too.

Costs more, doesn't save all that much time, and is by far the most likely part of the fridge to fail. Also, when it fails, you can have one hell of a mess, especially if you aren't home when it happens.

My advice: Save some money and some trouble, make your own ice.
 
The water in the line may be frozen although if you pulled the line out to check it, it should have thawed. Sorry just thinking out loud.


Well just running from the water valve on the wall to the back of the fridge. It could be a line frozen within the unit itself.

So far I'm hearing change the filter, and a part to defrost the line..
 
Either they have it set up so the water is blocked when the filter runs out (razor-blade revenue model, which is sheer awesomeness), or you do have a solenoid valve that is blocked/frozen for the water inlet. The 'hum' you hear is the power supply running juice through the valve, so that means you do have 12 or 24V power going to it (if you have a voltmeter, you can check that on the contacts, too). There are 2 of these solenoid valves on your water inlet part - one to feed the icemaker and one for the water dispenser.

I have had those valve go bad on a refrigerator, and a top load washer back when I was in CA.
But generally, when the solenoid valves start going bad, the water dispenser will drip water before it totally freezes up (valve doesn't close all the way); your problem sounds like it is frozen shut, and if you have hard water, that could be the issue.

If you know your refrigerator model number, you can look up the part here:

http://www.repairclinic.com/

This is what they typically look like:
Water-Inlet-Valve-WR57X10032-00802896.jpg


They are very accessible on the lower back panel of the fridge (the water line goes straight into these). BUT, make sure you have a valve shutoff for the water line to the fridge before you do anything - many people to 'self install' ice/water capable fridges don't add those in when they tap off a sink line, which makes it a giant pain in the ass to work on them, as you have to shut water off at the sink or the whole house.

If you can identify the solenoid valve part on that site, it will only require a screwdriver and wrench (plus maybe some Teflon tape) to remove the old part and pop in the new one. It is just 2 spade-lug electrical contacts (low voltage) and water connections no more complicated than a toilet or sink. You could also take the old part out and see if you can wash/clean out the valve components, but that's a temporary fix because once the hard water buildup starts, unless you chemically clean it, it will clog up faster next time.

You can buy the part from this site, or you can find a local supplier - I used to buy mine locally once I looked up the P/N info here, so if I found out it didn't fit or wasn't correct, it was easier to return.

Most of these types of things on your household appliances are 1950's-Era technologies, and are not complicated at all to do yourself (can probably find Youtube videos that walk you through them as well). If you call someone else to do it, expect at least $50-75 in 'site-service' fees just for showing up, plus hourly charges plus parts, which will generally cost $150-250 total vs. the $25-50 if you buy the parts and DIY.


Thank you
 
Just get a new one, and put that one in your garage. Leave more time for posting about other topics on HROT.......

on second thought...:D
 
We had the same problem with our old GE fridge. The temperatures on the fridge were turned down to the max. I simply turned the freezer up to 0 degrees and the fridge to around 35 or something and after an hour or two the line unfroze and had no problems after that.
 
Thank you

No prob.

I also had a dryer at my old place that quit heating; did a little online checking and identified a likely issue was a $10 thermal shutoff switch; they usually have a couple of these which cycle the heating elements for 'low' and 'high' level settings. So, with a voltmeter, I could figure out which one appeared to be an 'open' rather than 'closed' circuit, and I found the proper part on that site. One trip to the local repair place in south San Diego, and about 20-30 minutes of install, the dryer was up and running normally. So, that was $10-20 vs. the $150 or more I'd have paid someone else to do it.

Most of the DIY-capable repairs for home appliances are solenoid valves, thermistor/thermal shutoffs, or belts (for washers/dryers). Anything more than that and you may be better off with the repair guys, or scrapping and buying new.
 
The issue is you bought a refrigerator with a water dispenser. You probably have one with an ice dispenser or at least an icemaker, too.

Costs more, doesn't save all that much time, and is by far the most likely part of the fridge to fail. Also, when it fails, you can have one hell of a mess, especially if you aren't home when it happens.

My advice: Save some money and some trouble, make your own ice.


Be honest, you long for days of the outhouse instead of this fancy indoor plumbing stuff, right?
 
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We had the same problem with our old GE fridge. The temperatures on the fridge were turned down to the max. I simply turned the freezer up to 0 degrees and the fridge to around 35 or something and after an hour or two the line unfroze and had no problems after that.

I haven't heard of these lines freezing up, but this is so easy to try first (before looking up parts and messing with stuff) it's worth a try.
 
Weather is getting cooler, your house may be getting a few degrees cooler inside and thus the water is freezing up in the door.

On my GE the water line comes in at the bottom next to the hinge. A hairdryer held at the bottom will unfreeze it, but it will refreeze if your house remains too cool.
 
Frozen line. Happened to me. I thawed it with a hairdryer three time before GE sent me the heater element. I installed it and it didn't work. After haggling with GE for a few weeks they finally agreed to replace the door and give me a 5 year warranty on the door just for cost of shipping. Its been a known issue for about a decade and it still happens.

Mess with your temp settings first and try thawing it and wait to see if it happens again...
 
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Weather is getting cooler, your house may be getting a few degrees cooler inside and thus the water is freezing up in the door.

On my GE the water line comes in at the bottom next to the hinge. A hairdryer held at the bottom will unfreeze it, but it will refreeze if your house remains too cool.

If your refrigerator temperature is set way too cold, it could freeze the lines in the door; 35-38F is generally sufficient, and many run them as high as 40F. Unfortunately, most fridge controls say: A thru F or 1 thru 10 vs. an actual running temperature setting, which would be a lot more useful to people....

Water lines freezing in the door implies to me that they didn't design enough insulation around the lines, or in the door to keep this from happening....
 
Yep, it's a design flaw.

The dispenser is in the freezer door and regulating the temp does not help. One of those fix-its I've put off after reading of all the hassle and lack of success others have had.

November through March it's bottled water only in this house! :(
 
Yep, it's a design flaw.

The dispenser is in the freezer door and regulating the temp does not help. One of those fix-its I've put off after reading of all the hassle and lack of success others have had.

November through March it's bottled water only in this house! :(

Jeebus....simply putting a plastic tube next to or around that line, and piping the air from the compressor through that would have mitigated that issue. $1.29 worth of tubing was apparently 'too much' to spend....
 
It still made ice tho? If so, does that mean the ice is gross?
I can't remember, it was several years ago. I agree that sounds strange. If you've not changed the filter in the last year, change it anyway.
 
Jeebus....simply putting a plastic tube next to or around that line, and piping the air from the compressor through that would have mitigated that issue. $1.29 worth of tubing was apparently 'too much' to spend....
I didn't mention expense anywhere.

Read a myriad of possible fixes but none sounded definitive. This problem has caused a lot of people a lot of problems. Wasn't a feature we used a whole lot to begin with, so it's one of the few things that isn't 100%.

Alright smartypants, tell me more about running a line from the compressor ...
 
I didn't mention expense anywhere.

Read a myriad of possible fixes but none sounded definitive. This problem has caused a lot of people a lot of problems. Wasn't a feature we used a whole lot to begin with, so it's one of the few things that isn't 100%.

Alright smartypants, tell me more about running a line from the compressor ...

I'm just saying that the compressor motor in the fridge is already spinning, and generates LOTS of waste heat. By adding in a small run of flexible 2mm or so wall thickness tubing with an air gap from that motor around the water line and up through the door, which would both insulate the line, and provide a gap for the warmer compressor air to flow through it, would provide enough heat transfer to prevent the line from freezing up. My guess is that someone designed the molds for the door before they figured out where they were running the lines, and they ended up having to run them too close to where the cold air piped from the cooling coils runs which makes them freeze up. They didn't design either A) a big enough gap between the lines (water line and cold airflow line) or B) physically separate them with different channels in the door, so the water line isn't near anything that gets colder than 40F.

This is not a DIY fix, because there probably isn't room around the water line now to do it. It's a top level design problem.
 
Read your post wrong JP. Thanks for your input.

Ah....got it.

This kind of makes me laugh now (learning of the GE fridge design flaw), and thinking of the new GE ads they have out about the code/programming nerd getting a job with GE and his 'sledgehammer' grandpa trying to help him out.

Looks like GE needs fewer coding nerds, and more mechanical engineers with a little heat transfer experience for 'complex' devices like refrigerators...not gonna fix stuff like this with an 'app'.
 
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