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Republicans challenge legitimacy of overseas votes, including military

I’m aghast that “left wing” posters would come out and challenge a lawsuit filed by GOP stooges under the guise of election integrity. Particularly when one of them is Scott Perry, who is pure as the driven snow. Wonder if he’s gotten his cell phone back from the Feds.

Yup. Real mysteries abound all around here.
LOL. You get points for trying.
 
Had a hummer, eh?
Biden directed that non-military persons who request a ballot from their home state of PA living abroad could vote without showing ID as an active service member does and their ballots sent WITH the military ones. The objective was to facilitate a smoother process for US citizens living abroad and in fact I think it was done with an honorable intention.
But it invites bad actors to slip in illegally cast ballots.
The fact that you cannot see that means your own vote could be watered down is really reallly unfortunate. And it makes me wonder if you have thought it through. They are not denying military service personnel their right to vote. They just want to ensure the validity of any civilian votes included in the batch of ballots from overseas.
And those votes can include ballots from both parties.
Do you have ANYTHING to back that up? You know overseas voters still follow their states laws?

 
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Re-read the original article. Maybe have an adult who’s literate discuss it with you.

The original article states that a handful of 2020 election deniers have filed a lawsuit to further sow doubt about “election integrity”. It’s also mentioned that PA is responsible for setting the rules of their election and voter eligibility - as is every state.

I don’t think a lot of us are missing the details. Except, perhaps, you.
 
Re-read the original article. Maybe have an adult who’s literate discuss it with you.
You can't resist name calling & insults when someone calls you out can you? Again, explain how you think both General Kelly & Trump are lying about the "suckers & losers" comment.
 
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Per usual the swallowing whole of these articles in ALL LIKELIHOOD leaves out the history or the why’s and wherefores.
Military ballots in prior elections were trusted to be 100% legit and valid. After all, these are our soldiers! Our honored troops who obviously love their country and so let’s just handle them all as pure and honest. That was definitely the case in the past. The changes in our capabilities mean that these overseas ballots can and should be handled rapidly and accurately and most importantly SECURELY. No illegal ballots should be mixed in with the legit ballots. Period.

But yeah let’s jump on and fling crap at the “Republican Party”. What amazes me is that anyone wouldn’t want the legitimacy of our elections to be unquestionably solid.
Judge Judy No GIF by Agent M Loves Gifs
 
I’m focused on the crap - who “don’t care who flings it”.
Not on the party. I notice you’re not disputing my remarks.
You’re flinging crap right here in this post. You’re so one sided. Nobody is fooled by you.
 
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Per usual the swallowing whole of these articles in ALL LIKELIHOOD leaves out the history or the why’s and wherefores.
Military ballots in prior elections were trusted to be 100% legit and valid. After all, these are our soldiers! Our honored troops who obviously love their country and so let’s just handle them all as pure and honest. That was definitely the case in the past. The changes in our capabilities mean that these overseas ballots can and should be handled rapidly and accurately and most importantly SECURELY. No illegal ballots should be mixed in with the legit ballots. Period.

But yeah let’s jump on and fling crap at the “Republican Party”. What amazes me is that anyone wouldn’t want the legitimacy of our elections to be unquestionably solid.
Mom…..where has the “ballot abuse” taken place? And been PROVEN? Just because someone dreams up a scenario of fraud DOESN’T mean it has occurred. In America, evidenced is needed to prove a crime……an idea or concept is not enough.
Sorry Mom, but Trump and MAGAts have cried “Wolf!” Too many times to be taken seriously.
 
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One of the most satisfying things I've ever watched was Pittsburgh's military votes coming in live and burying Trump in Pennsylvania. I'll forever be grateful to Pittsburgh and our brave men and women overseas. Bless them!
You would think the military would generally vote more Republican, unless I’m under-estimating the power of newer woke military policies.
 
Doesn’t this rhetoric from the Dems make them seem just a bit hypocritical after calling out Pubs on this issue for years?

A system designed to ensure that no one CAN cheat seems to have been scrapped for one that rewards those who cheat BETTER.

And this is coming from someone who thinks George W stole not only the 2000 election but the ‘04 one as well.

 
Iowa’s Secretary of State declares Trump is full of BS. This is part of the problem with Trump’s lies about voter fraud. The blindly partisan like @goldmom pick it up and amplify it never mind that half of the states are run by Republicans. So, an elected official like Pate has to state that he’s doing his job.
 
Sure. How about you lay out all the fraud found in overseas votes?

Most of realize it ain’t about real fraud or protecting the “integrity” of a vote. It’s fear mongering and a continuation of 4 years of election denialism.

Cracks me up that Goldy is aggressively supporting something that Scott Perry is a part of. If Scott Perry is your source of “integrity” and concern for the average voter, you’re simply a POS. Hard stop.
 
You would think the military would generally vote more Republican, unless I’m under-estimating the power of newer woke military policies.
My dad is ex-military who never said a word politically to me until Trump entered the picture. He's certainly voting against Trump for the 3rd time this November. You're underestimating the horrible ways Trump has spoken about the military & it's leaders, not to mention having his dad buy his way out of service cuz he's a giant pussy.
 
Per usual the swallowing whole of these articles in ALL LIKELIHOOD leaves out the history or the why’s and wherefores.
Military ballots in prior elections were trusted to be 100% legit and valid. After all, these are our soldiers! Our honored troops who obviously love their country and so let’s just handle them all as pure and honest. That was definitely the case in the past. The changes in our capabilities mean that these overseas ballots can and should be handled rapidly and accurately and most importantly SECURELY. No illegal ballots should be mixed in with the legit ballots. Period.

But yeah let’s jump on and fling crap at the “Republican Party”. What amazes me is that anyone wouldn’t want the legitimacy of our elections to be unquestionably solid.
Goldie, what exactly has changed that says we can trust our election results? Was there a major scandal? Was massive fraud found in PA? ANYTHING???

Once again, PROVE IT. I ask this every time this gets brought up. You don’t get to just allege that something something fraud could happen, but ignore the safeguards each state has in place. This is fearmongering from these republicans, with zero evidence to support their argument…all to lay the groundwork for claims about stolen elections if Trump loses.
 
Why file the suit on a 40 year old law this late in the game?

Lawsuit should have been filed a year ago or more to give the elections division time to clarify the process if the process is found wanting. Instead they wait until the 11th hour knowing that if they can get the process thrown out that there will be no time for the elections division to re-issue ballots found acceptable by the courts thus denying those people who voted per this 40 year old law their right to vote.

So I will put you down as for disenfranchising people roughly 40% of whom are military.

Those "suckers and losers" simply have no business voting in our MAGA elections.
 
I get material from Vote Vets. I'm going to plant that Vets against Trump pretty soon in the drive of someone's property.
 
Now why would they look like they don't give a shit about the military? One thought would be that they KNOW they are going to win anyways and they will use this as a kinda precedent to challenge ALL mail in ballots and get it in front of the Supreme Court
 
Stupidity abounds and increases when it’s not exposed for what it is.
The deliberate (??) stupidity in this thread is both amusing and frightening.
Decade or three? Why not all the way back to 1960?
If you're saying the GOP has been corrupt for 75 years, I won't disagree with you.

My point is, why do you think this bill is being proposed less than a month before election day? If this was such an existential threat, you'd think these super smart Congressmen would have wanted to deal with it years ago! But it's not. It's a bullshit ploy to try to steal votes because they can't win without cheating.
 
Goldie, what exactly has changed that says we can trust our election results? Was there a major scandal? Was massive fraud found in PA? ANYTHING???

Once again, PROVE IT. I ask this every time this gets brought up. You don’t get to just allege that something something fraud could happen, but ignore the safeguards each state has in place. This is fearmongering from these republicans, with zero evidence to support their argument…all to lay the groundwork for claims about stolen elections if Trump loses.
Don't expect anything that responds on point.

In 2000, overseas military votes were received in FL that were absolutely "illegal". Hundreds of them. They either had no postmark or they were postmarked too late to be counted. The GOP, of course, was apoplectic when it was stated by the Gore campaign that those votes should be thrown out. Lieberman, after being instructed how to address the issue, went on tv and fvcked up the whole process by saying these were "military votes" and should be counted regardless of their legality. Gore was furious but they were now in a box and had to concede that those votes - again, clearly illegal - should be counted. And @goldmom was certainly on the side of allowing them to be counted. And now...

No illegal ballots should be mixed in with the legit ballots. Period. (emphasis mine)

The hypocrisy of the right can't be overstated.
 
Still waiting for goldmom.
I’m just now getting a moment to respond. I’ve had other things going on.
Hope you weren’t holding your breath.

We don’t know ALL THE DETAILS but if there was a slick little quiet plan to screw around with the military ballots by throwing in some “overseas civilian votes” it’s at the very least been put out in the open.
Curses, foiled again.
All you lefties must be getting a little nervous.
That’s all I’m going to say on the matter.
 
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I’m just now getting a moment to respond. I’ve had other things going on.
Hope you weren’t holding your breath.

We don’t know ALL THE DETAILS but if there was a slick little quiet plan to screw around with the military ballots by throwing in some “overseas civilian votes” it’s at the very least been put out in the open.
Curses, foiled again.
All you lefties must be getting a little nervous.
That’s all I’m going to say on the matter.
(Repeats conspiracy bullshit blather from Fox News talking heads.)
"That's all I'm going to say on the matter."
 
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(Repeats conspiracy bullshit blather from Fox News talking heads.)
"That's all I'm going to say on the matter."
I don’t watch Fox News. Is this news story that started the thread from Fox? Did those Congressmen NOT file? Is it misinformation?

FYI I watched CNN for cable coverage of Milton when I wasn’t watching my local stations, so I don’t know if it’s social media BS.
Believe it or not. I couldn’t care less. Your approval means zip.
 
I’m just now getting a moment to respond. I’ve had other things going on.
Hope you weren’t holding your breath.

We don’t know ALL THE DETAILS but if there was a slick little quiet plan to screw around with the military ballots by throwing in some “overseas civilian votes” it’s at the very least been put out in the open.
Curses, foiled again.
All you lefties must be getting a little nervous.
That’s all I’m going to say on the matter.


We don’t know ALL THE DETAILS but if there was a slick little quiet plan to import illegal Haitians into Springfield and have them capture and devour the citizen's pets, it’s at the very least been put out in the open.
Curses, foiled again.
All you lefties must be getting a little nervous.
That’s all I’m going to say on the matter.
 
We don't know all the details, but when someone says something ****ing absurdly crazy and false, at least it's out there to spoil any possible plans of anything that isn't actually happening. That's probably what MTG was doing with the weather control nonsense. Just wants to foil the dirty Dems plans of weather and hurricane control.

Everyone is so nervous
 
I’m just now getting a moment to respond. I’ve had other things going on.
Hope you weren’t holding your breath.

We don’t know ALL THE DETAILS but if there was a slick little quiet plan to screw around with the military ballots by throwing in some “overseas civilian votes” it’s at the very least been put out in the open.
Curses, foiled again.
All you lefties must be getting a little nervous.
That’s all I’m going to say on the matter.
The key word in that post is IF. Do they have any evidence of this plot? I’m highly dubious, and republicans have zero credibility on this that you should just be taking their word for it and say this gives you cause to question election integrity.

They’re creating the circular argument by first screaming fraud - with no evidence, then assert that we need to secure our reelections against fraud - again, with no evidence, and then come back to the lack of reforms that satisfy them by screaming that our elections aren’t secure.

All without once ever providing evidence at any point along the way.
 
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