Rules Question - SIAP

[AuroraHawk]

Weiskamp’s bucket occurred well after Davison’s flagrant foul on McCaffrey.

if the refs immediately called the foul, play would have stopped and Weiskamp would not have scored.

If the purpose of replay is to “get the call right,” then I wonder why Weiskamp’s bucket wasn’t called off.

Seems to me that Iowa really benefitted from the refs’ initial mistake and by having the play subjected to video review.

BTW, not complaining. Iowa has been on the wrong end of many head scratching calls.

 

[Rifler]

Dead ball foul,.. as in the foul wasn't called until "after" the replay review...

 

[tWarnerHawk]

They looked at it during a time out that Wisco called...
Gard after the FF was called:

 

[DodgerHawki]

Dead ball foul,.. as in the foul wasn't called until "after" the replay review...

My understanding of the rule is that it was called exactly as it should have been. Seeing "hook and holds" where an opponent grabs the arm/leg of an opponent, or a dirty play like what Davidson did (in that case he actually had both the hook/hold and the nut punch on one play) are very difficult for the refs in real time. They can go back at the next dead ball and review it, even if it occurred well before that. They handled it exactly as they should have. If a ref had seen the action in real time, they would have blown the whistle immediately and Wieskamp's bucket wouldn't have counted. They would have reviewed, called the Flagrant 1 and gave Iowa the ball.

No sympathy whatsoever for Wisconsin or Davidson in that case. If you pull dirty crap like that, so what if the other team scores, then they review and call the Flagrant 1? Don't commit dirty, cheap fouls and it's not a problem .

 

[AuroraHawk]

Regardless ... seems odd to me that there exists the potential for different penalties for the same offense.

 

[HawkLand]

I do feel like there should be something stating that if a basket is scored after the flagrant then the team does not get the ball back. They are essentially getting 3 possessions out of one call.

 

[anon_2zMXH429BhxV1Npk]

Regardless ... seems odd to me that there exists the potential for different penalties for the same offense.

If the next dead ball isn't for another 2 or 3 possessions and then they review it, they can't reverse all the scoring and put time back on the clock. The penalty is always the same, whether the flagrant is called in real time or after: two shots and the ball.

Sure Iowa "benefited" because it wasn't called in real time, so they effectively received another possession after scoring. But if Iowa hadn't scored, and then they stop and it's called and Iowa gets the ball back, no one would think anything of it. So it wasn't any sort of special treatment or circumstances, it was called just like every other reviewed call for a flagrant.

 

[cidhawkeye]

I do feel like there should be something stating that if a basket is scored after the flagrant then the team does not get the ball back. They are essentially getting 3 possessions out of one call.

It almost appears that they are trying to eliminate this type of play by giving it a serious consequence

 

[cidhawkeye]

Regardless ... seems odd to me that there exists the potential for different penalties for the same offense.

According to the rules the penalty is the same when this is called.

 

[BrunoMars420]

Yes, when you mention a woman you always have to follow up with pics

 

[DodgerHawki]

It almost appears that they are trying to eliminate this type of play by giving it a serious consequence

Bingo we have a winner. Don't commit dirty-ass plays and you won't have to worry about the opponent getting 3 chances to score.

 

[sober_teacher]

Bingo we have a winner. Don't commit dirty-ass plays and you won't have to worry about the opponent getting 3 chances to score.

It was a dirty play, not the first for Davison in his career and deserved to be called.

 

[TRE 12]

at all levels of the NCAA it is only reviewable in venues that have that capability which is mostly at the D1 level. Any action that occurred after the incident and up until the first dead ball regardless will stand and penalties are involked another example is the new flop rule...the first time is a warning...so you can have the exact same play, a guard driving to the hoop he is hedged/bumped and throws his head back then scores a layup...you THEN stop the game and give an official warning. Once the warning has been issued and you have the exact same play, you would blow it dead immediately, penalize the offender with a Class B 1 shot technical then pick up at POI