Ryan Boyle and read option

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

I remembered Boyle back in August camp saying that BF might incorporate some read option, since that's Boyle's strength. Check it here: http://www.hawkcentral.com/videos/s...7/08/08/any-ryan-boyle-wrinkles-qb/104414428/

Anyway, in the wake of the mauling in Madison, I was thinking it might have been clever to have Boyle ready to run some read option at the Badgers' 3-4. Inserting him to start the third quarter would have been quite a surprise to Wisky. And after a first half that yielded the still incomprehensible totals of ONE first down and TWENTY yards of total offense, why not?

Doing so not only would have totally shocked the Wisky defense, but it would have given Wadley and Butler great opportunities to work in space.

Not even considering such a thing, not having Boyle and the read option ready to go, seems silly, IMHO.

We all know Iowa has not exactly been putting up impressive offensive numbers on Wisky for years with its standard offense. In Boyle you have an athletic QB adept at the read option. You have RBs who can really make a defense pay for the slightest mistake, and you don't even consider the possibility. And that's a key element in coaching: Have an answer ready for when things go wrong.

Would Boyle and the read option have led Iowa to victory? No one will ever know. But what we do know is this: zero offensive points, 5 first downs, 66 yards of total offense.... How could it have been worse?

 

[hawkandroll]

It's strange that they didn't consider having the 3rd-4th string QB play, with a style of offense they've never successfully executed, against a top 10 team?

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Do we have to have a Ryan Boyle post after ever loss? Like seriously, how stupid is this. Yes obviously our offense was atrocious this weekend but dear god there is a reason he is 3rd string. He was a fantastic HS QB in the state of Iowa and is a fantastic young man......but for the love of god he is not the answer, our QB is certainly not the problem, and what we are seeing is inconsistency from a very young team. If you would have told me we would win 8 games (which I think we will) with the #3 toughest schedule in the nation after losing both starting OT's I would take that in a heartbeat. On the offensive side we will lose Welsh, Vandy, Wadley and Butler and that is it.......step of the ledge a little bit here

 

[IowaNiceHawk]

It's strange that they didn't consider having the 3rd-4th string QB play, with a style of offense they've never successfully executed, against a top 10 team?

Yeah, really strange, especially with the incredible success and
DYSFUNCTION they experienced in Madison.

 

[IowaNiceHawk]

Ryan Boyle couldn't have played worse, that is a fact.

GO HAWKS

 

[MepoDawg#]

Ryan Boyle couldn't have played worse, that is a fact.

GO HAWKS

I disagree. He could of easily had more turnovers than Stanley.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Ryan Boyle couldn't have played worse, that is a fact.

GO HAWKS

So what? Yes, going with a completely new system with a QB who is the third-best on the team would have been the way to go. Iowa got the crap kicked out of it collective asses for 4 quarters on Saturday. Take the medicine, move on. Poor preparation by the coaches and poor play by the players.

We had an Iowa team that thought it was something after whipping an OSU team that played terrible, and they paid for it with a crap-tastic performance. I am rather certain that starting the third quarter with Boyle running the zone-read would have been a similar/worse result.

 

[Johnsoda123]

Do we have to have a Ryan Boyle post after ever loss? Like seriously, how stupid is this. Yes obviously our offense was atrocious this weekend but dear god there is a reason he is 3rd string. He was a fantastic HS QB in the state of Iowa and is a fantastic young man......but for the love of god he is not the answer, our QB is certainly not the problem, and what we are seeing is inconsistency from a very young team. If you would have told me we would win 8 games (which I think we will) with the #3 toughest schedule in the nation after losing both starting OT's I would take that in a heartbeat. On the offensive side we will lose Welsh, Vandy, Wadley and Butler and that is it.......step of the ledge a little bit here

lol...Stanley should handle the punting.

 

[Muskie5]

Do we have to have a Ryan Boyle post after ever loss? Like seriously, how stupid is this. Yes obviously our offense was atrocious this weekend but dear god there is a reason he is 3rd string. He was a fantastic HS QB in the state of Iowa and is a fantastic young man......but for the love of god he is not the answer, our QB is certainly not the problem, and what we are seeing is inconsistency from a very young team. If you would have told me we would win 8 games (which I think we will) with the #3 toughest schedule in the nation after losing both starting OT's I would take that in a heartbeat. On the offensive side we will lose Welsh, Vandy, Wadley and Butler and that is it.......step of the ledge a little bit here

And Kulick, but your point is valid. Especially about losing both 5th yr. senior OT's. People don't seem to grasp that. They were the starting tackles when we went 12-0. They weren't the best in passpro that year, but they were road graders in the run game. I would imagine they would have improved since their soph. yrs. Jackson, Wirfs, and Kallenberger are going to be really good if they stay healthy but because of injuries and a little attrition (Waechter?) Jackson and Wirfs got thrown to the wolves this year. It happens, and you have to make the best of it. I remember everyone talking about how bad and slow our young white LB's were 4 yrs. ago and they would never amount to anything. I wish Iowa could stock the shelves with 4 and 5 star recruits like the blue bloods, but it ain't gonna happen, and when healthy, Iowa puts pretty damn good teams on the field that can play with anyone.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Yeah, really strange, especially with the incredible success and
DYSFUNCTION they experienced in Madison.

It is never as good as it seems (last weeks) or bad as it seems(this week)......it was a rough week- it happens sometimes.....especially with a young offense that we have. R-E-L-A-X, there is no need to switch players everytime we have a rough week, no we do not need to fire every coach, no we do not need to run spread-zone read.......we need to relax and understand we have a very young team and realize losing 5th year starting tackles and playing the 3rd best schedule in the nation can cause some mixed results....even NFL teams struggle when they lose starting tackles- Adrian Clayborn says hello

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Ryan Boyle couldn't have played worse, that is a fact.

GO HAWKS

Would love to see Boyle as a change of pace every once in a while, especially after going 0-12 in 3rd down conversions.

 

[Muskie5]

Would love to see Boyle as a change of pace every once in a while, especially after going 0-12 in 3rd down conversions.

I don't agree, BUT, if they are going to line up in shotgun and run zone read there is no point in Stanley being in, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GOSHDANG 'READ' PLAY WHEN HE'S IN!!! HE'S NOT GOING TO READ 'PULL' AND RUN IT....SO WHAT'S THE POINT! My capital letters are directed towards BF (not that he'll ever read it, lol) and not towards you. End of rant. Carry on.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

Has anyone even seen Boyle run the read option in a college game ? I doubt the first string OL ever runs it in practice but working out the kinks in the middle of a game sounds like a great idea.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Think your grasping at straws here.

The offensive performance was awful, no doubt. But thinking Ryan Boyle and the read option, which is basically IMO a gimmick play, would have altered the universe is beyond a stretch. It's pure fantasy. Even if it had found some success initially, Wisconsin would have adjusted to it.

Nate Stanley is Iowa's quarterback and the quarterback of the future. And rightfully so--he's good and has unlimited potential. We could dissect this game a thousand different ways and still come up with the same conclusion: Iowa wasn't ready to play on Saturday. The failure was at all levels and all positions (we are speaking offensively of course). The OL did not block well or pick up blitzes and stunts very well. The receivers had their issues with drops, Brian SEEMED clueless in figuring out adjustments, and it SEEMED the game plan was ultra conservative (at least in comparison to Ohio State). Also, Wisconsin's defense was no joke. Granted, they are not as good as Iowa made them look, but they are still stout, without question.

In short, a lot of blame to go around. And, just my opinion and hunch, Iowa decided to go more conservative and conventional on the road and couldn't adjust to what Wisconsin was doing defensively.

 

[amahawk]

It's strange that they didn't consider having the 3rd-4th string QB play, with a style of offense they've never successfully executed, against a top 10 team?

It probably would not have been any worse.