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[billanole]

If you're not scared about Social Security, you should be

John and Terri Hale: Americans depend on Social Security to be there. Recent events raise serious questions about whether it will be.

www.bleedingheartland.com

Elon Musk claimed that millions of Americans over the age of 100, 200, or even 300 are getting monthly Social Security benefits. News organizations and the Social Security Administration itself have debunked those claims.

President Donald Trump amplified those false claims in his March 4 speech to a joint session of Congress, saying they indicated “incompetence” in the Social Security program.

Musk recently called Social Security the “world’s biggest Ponzi scheme.”

Representatives Mariannette Miller-Meeks (IA-01), Ashley Hinson (IA-02), Zach Nunn (IA-03), Randy Feenstra (IA-04), and Senators Joni Ernst and Chuck Grassley should call for hearings, get answers, and insist on greater transparency and accountability from DOGE and leaders of the Social Security Administration.

Our elected representatives will take those actions only if constituents tell them to.

Advocacy organizations for workers, older Iowans, and people with disabilities should raise their voices. Iowans of all ages should call, email, and visit their representative’s offices. Express concerns. Ask if they support the existing Social Security system, and what they will do to improve it. Insist on clear answers.

Remind them that while millionaires and billionaires may not depend on Social Security, ordinary people leading real lives do.

Frustrated? Scared? Then make some noise. It’s time to end the chaos and make Social Security secure again.

 

[Huey Grey]

Chuck was told straight up by one of his constituents to take back the power of Congress and stop letting the President run over us. Chuck shrugged his shoulders and didn't care.

 

[noleclone2]

I hope DOGE does mess up and cause payments to get screwed up. Those will be the flames that consume Trump and MAGA for once and all.

 

[uihawk82]

Chuck was told straight up by one of his constituents to take back the power of Congress and stop letting the President run over us. Chuck shrugged his shoulders and didn't care.

Grassley has been a glad hander with no substance for 40 years now. He just has no fight for the underdog and the lower 50% anymore and he hasnt for a long time. I refused to shake his hand a couple times some 30 years ago up around Kinnick on a football saturday. He was just wandering around wanting to shake hands and keep his face in front of people. Yet he votes for the powerful

 

[Torg]

DOGE$

Department Of Giving Elon $

 

[SIXERS24]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

 

[billanole]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

Well, yeah.

 

[SIXERS24]

Bleeding Heart is a far left website

 

[Huey Grey]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

Every change but to have rich people pay money they won't miss anyway, amirite?

 

[billanole]

Bleeding Heart is a far left website

Is there something in the article that you feel is “bleeding heart” drivel?

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

Simple. Raise taxes. Cut spending.

 

[SoMplsHawkI]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

Agreed. And there are any number of ways to fix it. https://www.actuary.org/sites/default/files/pdf/socialsecurity/votingcard_0801.pdf
The Felon-in-Chief does not have the political will to do it.

 

[theiacowtipper]

Social Security is going broke by 2035 Changes have to be made!

Fear mongering. Benefits would have to be reduced but it’s not "going broke".

 

[RicoSuave102954]

All waste in the Social Security system needs to be identified and eliminated. Only then can we have a starting point to access and determine what needs to be done to save the system.

 

[Hans81]

Agreed. And there are any number of ways to fix it. https://www.actuary.org/sites/default/files/pdf/socialsecurity/votingcard_0801.pdf
The Felon-in-Chief does not have the political will to do it.

Unfortunately, most politicians don’t have the “political will” to fix SS, but it will eventually need to be done.

 

[Joes Place]

If you're not scared about Social Security, you should be

John and Terri Hale: Americans depend on Social Security to be there. Recent events raise serious questions about whether it will be.

www.bleedingheartland.com

Elon Musk claimed that millions of Americans over the age of 100, 200, or even 300 are getting monthly Social Security benefits. News organizations and the Social Security Administration itself have debunked those claims.

President Donald Trump amplified those false claims in his March 4 speech to a joint session of Congress, saying they indicated “incompetence” in the Social Security program.

Musk recently called Social Security the “world’s biggest Ponzi scheme.”

Representatives Mariannette Miller-Meeks (IA-01), Ashley Hinson (IA-02), Zach Nunn (IA-03), Randy Feenstra (IA-04), and Senators Joni Ernst and Chuck Grassley should call for hearings, get answers, and insist on greater transparency and accountability from DOGE and leaders of the Social Security Administration.

Our elected representatives will take those actions only if constituents tell them to.

Advocacy organizations for workers, older Iowans, and people with disabilities should raise their voices. Iowans of all ages should call, email, and visit their representative’s offices. Express concerns. Ask if they support the existing Social Security system, and what they will do to improve it. Insist on clear answers.

Remind them that while millionaires and billionaires may not depend on Social Security, ordinary people leading real lives do.

Frustrated? Scared? Then make some noise. It’s time to end the chaos and make Social Security secure again.

 

[Joes Place]

All waste in the Social Security system needs to be identified and eliminated. Only then can we have a starting point to access and determine what needs to be done to save the system.

This is like saying you're never driving a car again unless "all accidents and speeders can be identified eliminated"


SS has very little waste and fraud; last analysis indicated it would cost far more to eliminate the small amount of waste/fraud there is than to just live with it.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

This is like saying you're never driving a car again unless "all accidents and speeders can be identified eliminated"


SS has very little waste and fraud; last analysis indicated it would cost far more to eliminate the small amount of waste/fraud there is than to just live with it.

It costs nothing to eliminate it, you just quit sending payments to them. There is billions in waste.

 

[Joes Place]

It costs nothing to eliminate it

Yeah; it does. You have to spend millions FINDING it, which was the point.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Yeah; it does. You have to spend millions FINDING it, which was the point.

DOGE is doing it for free you idiot.

 

[mustang_hawk]

Unfortunately, most politicians don’t have the “political will” to fix SS, but it will eventually need to be done.

Just think, if it was January 2001 again. The Federal Government had a budget surplus of 300 billion dollars and the national debt was around 5 trillion dollars. That was the chance to get things right, but there was a new Republican president and he had to have his tax cut. After all, the Feds were taking money away from the people that they didn't need. The country was 5 trillion dollars in debt but the Federal Government was taking more in taxes than they needed.

Today we're 30+ trillion in debt and pushing for a 4.5 trillion dollar tax cut all while the budget deficit keeps growing. In short order, the cost to service that debt will be over a trillion dollars annually. A trillion dollars that tax payers will get absolutely nothing for.

 

[Joes Place]

DOGE is doing it for free

No. They are not.
They have ZERO auditors working within the group.

They have found ZERO cases of fraud, or we'd have seen criminal charges for it. Can you link any? Criminal charges are public records.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

No. They are not.
They have ZERO auditors working within the group.

They have found ZERO cases of fraud, or we'd have seen criminal charges for it. Can you link any? Criminal charges are public records.

They have uncovered billions in fraud.

BTW DOGE does not prosecute people they just uncover fraud and schemes like USAID

 

[Joes Place]

They have uncovered billions in fraud.

No; they have not.

Name ONE "fraud" prosecution that has occured.

ONE

 

[Joes Place]

They have uncovered billions in fraud.

BTW DOGE does not prosecute people

FBI does

And if DOGE found "fraud", then where are the federal charges.
That's what we do when we uncover "fraud" - we charge people and try to recover the losses.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

No; they have not.

Name ONE "fraud" prosecution that has occured.

ONE

How hard is it for you to comprehend that DOGE uncovers fraud they do not prosecute it.

 

[Joes Place]

How hard is it for you to comprehend that DOGE uncovers fraud they do not prosecute it.

How hard is it for you to comprehend that once "alleged" fraud is uncovered, we PROSECUTE it.

Where are those criminal charges?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

How hard is it for you to comprehend that once "alleged" fraud is uncovered, we PROSECUTE it.

Where are those criminal charges?

I don't really care, I'm more concerned with stopping the fraud. Charges can be filed later on.

 

[Joes Place]

I don't really care, I'm more concerned with stopping the fraud.

If there are no charges, there was no fraud.

 

[Joes Place]

Charges can be filed later on.

Charges come immediately


It's the "trials" that come "later on". If they found actual fraud, they'd be charging people
That's the "tell", along with hundreds of federal employees they "fired", then had to scramble to "rehire" later once they figured out they screwed up. Along with retracting $100B in allege "savings" when the accounted for total is barely $8B.

A 5th grader with modest critical thinking skills could see right thru the Musk/DOGE sham here. Apparently, you're dumber than the average 5th grader.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

If there are no charges, there was no fraud.

Wrong

 

[Joes Place]

Wrong

FACT

 

[RicoSuave102954]

FACT

Wrong just like your claim the Postal Service should be purchasing Kia Soul's to deliver mail in.

 

[MitchLL]

No. They are not.
They have ZERO auditors working within the group.

They have found ZERO cases of fraud, or we'd have seen criminal charges for it. Can you link any? Criminal charges are public records.

At this point, it's all bluster from Musk...

Exhibit A is all these massive layoffs/terminations that makes it look like he's saving $$$...only to be hiring people back immediately because they didn't even comprehend what their jobs entailed.
When your target audience is DAF, they can get away with that stupid shit.

 

[arrrrrghhhh!]

DOGE$

Department Of Giving Elon $

Any evidence of elon taking SS money (or any gov money not tied to his contracts from prior administrations) or is this just standard liberal lie smear get a bunch of degenerates to riot rinse repeat?

 

[pjhawk]

Bleeding Heart is a far left website

What are your go-to media sources then when it comes to SS?

 

[Chewback]

DOGE is doing it for free you idiot.

Yeah. Muskrat doesn't spend anything FINDING it, he just goes in with a flame thrower and burns the whole place to the ground. Very Republican of him.

 

[seminole97]

It’s time to end the chaos and make Social Security secure again.

When did you think it was ‘secure’?

It’s always been an insolvent mess. That’s why there have been over 20 tax increases and increases in the retirement age.

 

[Joes Place]

Wrong

 

[RicoSuave102954]

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LOL - Your phony graph and meme mean nothing.