If Iowa wins they more than likely get the 4 seed and if they lose they drop to 7.. Gotta say if they were to win and the rest of the games went chalk id really like Iowa's side of the bracket!
Saturday is a big one!
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There is no easy side. If you're the 4/5 your path is likely going through Indiana/Purdue in Indianapolis. The other side you're going through MSU/Maryland,etc....
If we win we will only be 4 seed if PU beats UW and Maryland beats IU. Otherwise it's #5. Still a big game though because loss puts us #7 if PU wins and #6 if Wisconsin wins. MSU will beat OSU and be #2, so we don't want 7-seed
I don't know that you can say that for certain yet.
Just one example where that isn't true:
Wisconsin takes 2nd alone and then there is a 4-way tie for 3rd.
There are a number of scenarios that lead to similar 1-8 seedings:
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Because OSU isn't winning in East Lansing. I'm only considering legitimate possibilities. Sagarin says we have 49% chance of winning, PU has 81%, and Maryland has 31% chance against IU. So we have a 12% chance at the 4-seed. If we win the chances jump to 25%
Sag has MSU with 94% chance of beating OSU
Sag has MSU with 94% chance of beating OSU
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Why not? Let's win this one, get some confidence, get on a roll like earlier in the year, take the conference tourney and roll into the Sweet Sixteen and beyond!
I don't know what will happen but that scenario sounds good to me.
I don't know what will happen but that scenario sounds good to me.
It does appear that if OSU wins and we win we're guaranteed the 4-seed, so I'll cheer for that but not realistically count on it. OSU winning starts the only path that could lead to us as the 8-seed too, but I think the difference between 6-7-8 is not as big of deal as the difference between 4-5 so I'll cheer for OSU
It's going to take a hell of a lot more than this "win" to make me start to "feel good again".
That was in response to your statement that Maryland and Purdue have to win. They don't.
If you don't like OSU winning at MSU, then here are a whole slew of other possibilities that don't have Maryland beating Indiana and still giving Iowa the 4-seed.
Correct, but I also don't give Illinois a chance tonight. But I shouldn't state things unequivocally since the Buckeyes and Illini could win. I need to leave this conversation until after our game, though. It's too depressing how a season of so much promise has ended up in the exact same place as last year: 11-6 needing a win plus help to get a double bye 
Every game has been a "big one" for the last 3 weeks and Iowa wet the proverbial bed.
Now you just hope to flush the regular season and get their mind right for the NCAA. Don't really care if we do anything in the B10 tourney because most of the time teams that go far in their conference tourney flame out in the big dance.
Now you just hope to flush the regular season and get their mind right for the NCAA. Don't really care if we do anything in the B10 tourney because most of the time teams that go far in their conference tourney flame out in the big dance.
Wouldn't a four-team tie for third among Iowa, Maryland, Purdue, and Wisconsin end up with Iowa as the #4?
Assuming Indiana (over MD), Iowa (over Michigan), MSU (over OSU), and Purdue (over Wisconsin) this weekend, the standings would be:
1. Indiana 15-3
2. MSU 13-5
3. Four teams tied at 12-6
7. Ohio State 11-7
8. Michigan 10-8
The head-to-head records among the tied teams would be:
Maryland 3-2 (beat Iowa, split with Purdue, split with Wisconsin)
Iowa 2-2 (lost to Maryland and Wisconsin, beat Purdue twice)
Purdue 3-3 (beat Wisconsin twice, split with Maryland, lost twice to Iowa)
Wisconsin 2-3 (beat Iowa, split with Maryland, lost twice to Purdue)
That gives Maryland the #3 seed and Wisconsin the #6. Iowa holds the H2H over Purdue and so would be the #4.
Point being, we don't need Maryland to upset Indiana to get the #4. What am I missing?
Assuming Indiana (over MD), Iowa (over Michigan), MSU (over OSU), and Purdue (over Wisconsin) this weekend, the standings would be:
1. Indiana 15-3
2. MSU 13-5
3. Four teams tied at 12-6
7. Ohio State 11-7
8. Michigan 10-8
The head-to-head records among the tied teams would be:
Maryland 3-2 (beat Iowa, split with Purdue, split with Wisconsin)
Iowa 2-2 (lost to Maryland and Wisconsin, beat Purdue twice)
Purdue 3-3 (beat Wisconsin twice, split with Maryland, lost twice to Iowa)
Wisconsin 2-3 (beat Iowa, split with Maryland, lost twice to Purdue)
That gives Maryland the #3 seed and Wisconsin the #6. Iowa holds the H2H over Purdue and so would be the #4.
Point being, we don't need Maryland to upset Indiana to get the #4. What am I missing?
That's not the way the group tie-breaker works, but your final answer is correct.
