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Saudi Arabia and OPEC Reveal Surprise Oil Production Cut

Here is yet another advertisement to go EV or hybrid.

Is having that giant gas guzzling king cab worth being at the mercy of the Saudis?

It's an advertisement for expanding and funding public transportation. The solution has been here for a century
 
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Here is yet another advertisement to go EV or hybrid.

Is having that giant gas guzzling king cab worth being at the mercy of the Saudis?
Yea, that's a great idea. Rather than depend on the Saudi's, we can depend on the Chinese for their rare earth minerals. The U.S. has oil but very little rare earth minerals and what we do have, the eco NAZI's won't let us get.
 
Yea, that's a great idea. Rather than depend on the Saudi's, we can depend on the Chinese for their rare earth minerals. The U.S. has oil but very little rare earth minerals and what we do have, the eco NAZI's won't let us get.

You have such a tunnel view of everything. Every single thing is black and white to you. No gray at all.

There are extensive efforts to move away from the rare earth mineral batteries to something more common like sodium.
 
You have such a tunnel view of everything. Every single thing is black and white to you. No gray at all.

There are extensive efforts to move away from the rare earth mineral batteries to something more common like sodium.
Couldn't it also be said that the singular focus on moving away from fossil fuels and nuclear energy at a rapid pace is also tunnel vision, especially when the electric infrastructure won't fully support it?
 
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Couldn't it also be said that the singular focus on moving away from fossil fuels and nuclear energy at a rapid pace is also tunnel vision, especially when the electric infrastructure won't fully support it?

Not really the same. I do agree that some nuclear would be good. Apparently Illinois thinks so as they are about to green light a new plant there.
 
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"White house insists that cuts aren't advisable right now...",.. Biden white house should have considered this before choosing to totally alienate Saudi Arabia,.. phucking hilarious.
 
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You have such a tunnel view of everything. Every single thing is black and white to you. No gray at all.

There are extensive efforts to move away from the rare earth mineral batteries to something more common like sodium.
You do as well. EV is a looooong way off as far as switching over to them. In the meantime, the administration(s) need to encourage drilling and oil production here at home. We’ll get to EV, but it’s going to be a long transition period. Until then, we need to produce more of our own.
 
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Lotta holier than thou attitudes about pointing the finger at others using gasoline but not me. Give me a break, everyone is guilty of buying and using gasoline as well as buying all kinds of products that are made with and used in manufacturing process of petroleum based products.
 
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You do as well. EV is a looooong way off as far as switching over to them. In the meantime, the administration(s) need to encourage drilling and oil production here at home. We’ll get to EV, but it’s going to be a long transition period. Until then, we need to produce more of our own.

Why does it have to be long? Because gluttonous Americans love giant Pickups and SUV's?

God Bless 'merica.....

My God given right to be a glutton.
 
See if people took actions themselves to save the Earth, we wouldnt be here, would we?

Mankind is hopeless and will kill himself off because of his sloth and gluttony
 
See if people took actions themselves to save the Earth, we wouldnt be here, would we? Mankind is hopeless and will kill himself off because of his sloth and gluttony

Of course we would,.. there are no actions that can be taken, sufficient to save the earth.
 
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You have such a tunnel view of everything. Every single thing is black and white to you. No gray at all.

There are extensive efforts to move away from the rare earth mineral batteries to something more common like sodium.
I don’t think rare earth metals are used in lithium ion batteries. Could be wrong. Most of the lithium produced today is produced in countries at least moderately friendly with the US
 
Why does it have to be long? Because gluttonous Americans love giant Pickups and SUV's?

God Bless 'merica.....

My God given right to be a glutton.
Because technology isn’t there yet. The infrastructure to switch the entire country over to electric isn’t anywhere near what it will need to be. And it will take a looooong time
 
I have been working out on the treadmill and outdoor running so I am prepared to transport myself if need be.
 
Because technology isn’t there yet. The infrastructure to switch the entire country over to electric isn’t anywhere near what it will need to be. And it will take a looooong time
The political will is what is lacking to tell our spoiled rotten public anything that might inconvenience them.

We are a country of Karens.
 
Lol. Like that would change your worldview. If Democrats like EVs, you are genetically predisposed to hate them. That’s simply the way you work.
No, I work in reality. You and all leftists work in dream land. How about we stop using natural gas, oil and electricity and power everything with pixie dust. Think of how carbon neutral and green that would be.
 
No, I work in reality. You and all leftists work in dream land. How about we stop using natural gas, oil and electricity and power everything with pixie dust. Think of how carbon neutral and green that would be.

Just think how much less we would use if people were not gluttonous pigs.
 
No, I work in reality. You and all leftists work in dream land. How about we stop using natural gas, oil and electricity and power everything with pixie dust. Think of how carbon neutral and green that would be.
You’re dumb.
 
Lots of people who say we cant. Good thing Abby or Jan wasnt leading us in WWII. We would be speaking German now.
 
No, I work in reality. You and all leftists work in dream land. How about we stop using natural gas, oil and electricity and power everything with pixie dust. Think of how carbon neutral and green that would be.
See. No serious attempt at discussion. Hyperbole and ridicule. No one is saying we are getting rid of anything. The left talks about carbon neutral. There’s room for carbon emission production.

Typical maga Republican straw man argument.
 
Yea, that's a great idea. Rather than depend on the Saudi's, we can depend on the Chinese for their rare earth minerals. The U.S. has oil but very little rare earth minerals and what we do have, the eco NAZI's won't let us get.

Little known fact…
>50% of Tesla batteries have no cobalt or nickel in them at all. They are lithium + iron based. Both are still plentiful and the batteries can be 95% recycled at end of life. They also broke ground on North America’s first lithium and other minerals refinery. There in Texas, expected opening is December 2024.

The REM in Tesla motors are being redesigned to have 0% REM in the motors.

They are out ahead of this you’ll be glad to know. :)

 
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