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Scowcroft: The Iran deal: An epochal moment that Congress shouldn’t squander

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Congress again faces a momentous decision regarding U.S. policy toward the Middle East. The forthcoming vote on the nuclear deal between the P5+1 and Iran (known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA) will show the world whether the United States has the will and sense of responsibility to help stabilize the Middle East, or whether it will contribute to further turmoil, including the possible spread of nuclear weapons. Strong words perhaps, but clear language is helpful in the cacophony of today’s media.

In my view, the JCPOA meets the key objective, shared by recent administrations of both parties, that Iran limit itself to a strictly civilian nuclear program with unprecedented verification and monitoring by the International Atomic Energy Agency and the U.N. Security Council. Iran has committed to never developing or acquiring a nuclear weapon; the deal ensures that this will be the case for at least 15 years and likely longer, unless Iran repudiates the inspection regime and its commitments under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and Additional Protocol.

There is no more credible expert on nuclear weapons than Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz, who led the technical negotiating team. When he asserts that the JCPOA blocks each of Iran’s pathways to the fissile material necessary to make a nuclear weapon, responsible people listen. Twenty-nine eminent U.S. nuclear scientists have endorsed Moniz’s assertions.

If the United States could have handed Iran a “take it or leave it” agreement, the terms doubtless would have been more onerous on Iran. But negotiated agreements, the only ones that get signed in times of peace, are compromises by definition. It is what President Reagan did with the Soviet Union on arms control; it is what President Nixon did with China.

And as was the case with specific agreements with the Soviet Union and China, we will continue to have significant differences with Iran on important issues, including human rights, support for terrorist groups and meddling in the internal affairs of neighbors. We must never tire of working to persuade Iran to change its behavior on these issues, and countering it where necessary. And while I believe the JCPOA, if implemented scrupulously by Iran, will help engage Tehran constructively on regional issues, we must always remember that its sole purpose is to halt the country’s nuclear weapons activities.

Israel’s security, an abiding U.S. concern, will be enhanced by the full implementation of the nuclear deal. Iran is fully implementing the interim agreement that has placed strict limits on its nuclear program since January 2014 while the final agreement was being negotiated. If Iran demonstrates the same resolve under the JCPOA, the world will be a much safer place. And if it does not, we will know in time to react appropriately.

Let us not forget that Israel is the only country in the Middle East with overwhelming retaliatory capability. I have no doubt that Iran’s leaders are well aware of Israel’s military capabilities. Similarly, the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members have impressive conventional militaries, and the United States is committed to enhancing their capabilities.

Congress rightfully is conducting a full review and hearing from proponents and opponents of the nuclear deal. However, the seeming effort to make the JCPOA the ultimate test of Congress’s commitment to Israel is probably unprecedented in the annals of relations between two vibrant democracies. Let us be clear: There is no credible alternative were Congress to prevent U.S. participation in the nuclear deal. If we walk away, we walk away alone. The world’s leading powers worked together effectively because of U.S. leadership. To turn our back on this accomplishment would be an abdication of the United States’ unique role and responsibility, incurring justified dismay among our allies and friends. We would lose all leverage over Iran’s nuclear activities. The international sanctions regime would dissolve. And no member of Congress should be under the illusion that another U.S. invasion of the Middle East would be helpful.

So I urge strongly that Congress support this agreement. But there is more that Congress should do. Implementation and verification will be the key to success, and Congress has an important role. It should ensure that the International Atomic Energy Agency, other relevant bodies and U.S. intelligence agencies have all the resources necessary to facilitate inspection and monitor compliance. Congress should ensure that military assistance, ballistic missile defense and training commitments that the United States made to GCC leaders at Camp David in May are fully funded and implemented without delay. And it should ensure that the United States works closely with the GCC and other allies to moderate Iranian behavior in the region, countering it where necessary.

My generation is on the sidelines of policymaking now; this is a natural development. But decades of experience strongly suggest that there are epochal moments that should not be squandered. President Nixon realized it with China. Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush realized it with the Soviet Union. And I believe we face it with Iran today.

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The invasion certainly didn't help. Forking over 150billion (from this "deal") didn't help either (I wonder if any Lib's will admit to this).
 
Here's the problem I have with the deal:

Once you ease sanctions and give Iran their $150 billion, they can "break out" and have their weapon anyway.

Then what? There would be little sanctions leverage - much tougher to put back in place once they are lessened or removed. PLUS, they'll have the $150 billion that they can use to do no good in the region.

So, if the deal had been tougher on inspections (anywhere, anytime, for any reason with very short notice), and the Iranians said "no deal", then their economy is still crippled and they don't have the $150 billion. They could still break out but they'd have a messed up economy and they'd be $150 billion poorer.
 
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Do you think they have more or fewer terror proxies than Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, and Egypt?

I have no idea.

If those countries were under the same sanctions to prevent the same activities then I would be for treating them the same way.

Are you saying that we should let Iran fund its terror proxies with $150 billion?
 
I have no idea.

If those countries were under the same sanctions to prevent the same activities then I would be for treating them the same way.

Are you saying that we should let Iran fund its terror proxies with $150 billion?

Sure.

A: You are assuming that the only thing Iran does is fund terrorists
B: They (aside from the kurds) are the only ones actually fighting ISIS.

BTW, read up on Israeli support for Al Qaeda in Syria before you start running your mouth about countries supporting terrorism.
 
Sure.

A: You are assuming that the only thing Iran does is fund terrorists
B: They (aside from the kurds) are the only ones actually fighting ISIS.

BTW, read up on Israeli support for Al Qaeda in Syria before you start running your mouth about countries supporting terrorism.

Good defense of Iran. Bravo.
 
If those countries were under the same sanctions to prevent the same activities then I would be for treating them the same way.
Is that why Iran was under sanctions? I thought the sanctions were for their nuclear activities.

(anywhere, anytime, for any reason with very short notice)
I think this would have been a nonstarter. Has any country agreed to anything like this?
 
Good defense of Iran. Bravo.

I don't need to defend Iran, I just feel we have been falling into the same trap with them that we fell into with North Vietnam. Iran will be a regional hegemony whether we like it or not.

I'd really like it if we didn't have to decide between the sunni shia bs.
 
I don't need to defend Iran, I just feel we have been falling into the same trap with them that we fell into with North Vietnam. Iran will be a regional hegemony whether we like it or not.

I'd really like it if we didn't have to decide between the sunni shia bs.


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Sure.

A: You are assuming that the only thing Iran does is fund terrorists
B: They (aside from the kurds) are the only ones actually fighting ISIS.

BTW, read up on Israeli support for Al Qaeda in Syria before you start running your mouth about countries supporting terrorism.

I'm not "running my mouth".

I never assumed Iran only funded terrorists. It's obvious that the subject was Iran's nuclear program.
 
Is that why Iran was under sanctions? I thought the sanctions were for their nuclear activities.


I think this would have been a nonstarter. Has any country agreed to anything like this?

I was referring to nuclear activities.

Iran would be free to not agree with those conditions, and then live with the consequences.
 
Here's the problem I have with the deal:

Once you ease sanctions and give Iran their $150 billion, they can "break out" and have their weapon anyway.

Then what? There would be little sanctions leverage - much tougher to put back in place once they are lessened or removed. PLUS, they'll have the $150 billion that they can use to do no good in the region.

So, if the deal had been tougher on inspections (anywhere, anytime, for any reason with very short notice), and the Iranians said "no deal", then their economy is still crippled and they don't have the $150 billion. They could still break out but they'd have a messed up economy and they'd be $150 billion poorer.
Why would Iran sign this deal? We are bribing them, with their own money no less to wait a decade. And as part of that bribe, we get most of the uranium and equipment. The break out senario you fear is what we live with now.
 
Why would Iran sign this deal? We are bribing them, with their own money no less to wait a decade. And as part of that bribe, we get most of the uranium and equipment. The break out senario you fear is what we live with now.

How do we know we're getting most of the uranium and equipment?
 
Does Israel have a nuclear program?

Why do you ask? BTW, as far as I know, they have never made a declaration to wipe another country off of the map.

FWIW, this deal is so FUBAR'ed that as far as I can tell, it won't matter if Congress votes it down or not...regardless of Obama's promised veto.

New policy towards Iran...if you use a nuclear bomb on someone, prepare to be annihilated...the next day. Deals, smeals, they can never be trusted no matter what they might agree to and the only thing they understand is might.
 
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