Did you ever get Polio or TB? I'm going to guess no. Those viruses were defeated through national immunization programs. This one likely will be too.
Season on the brink?
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Did you ever get Polio or TB? I'm going to guess no. Those viruses were defeated through national immunization programs. This one likely will be too.
Condolences for your loss.
Can't imagine the pain of not being able to physically be there, or close by, as a loved one dies.
Die hard Hawk fan for over 60 years. Not a reader but read Season on the Brink twice-Great read! Was not a big Knight fan but attended his Coaching Academy back in the 80’s and it was the best clinic I ever attended.
I think (hope) we're in the midst of the worst of it right now. Hospitalizations are at the highest level yet but that appears to have stabilized. I think the question now is how long we stay at roughly these same levels. Last year we saw numbers level off in March and start coming down in April. I'm thinking we can probably expect the same this year.
Where classes are being held, students coming back from winter break, you get a spike, but by late Feb/March, should drop. NCAA will allow replacement players if needed to collect their payday.
Yeah that comment makes zero sense.
Might get a replacement team at the beginning of the tourney if a team is unable to compete. Essentially the last 4 out would be ready to go in case of virus issues in the field.
Once they get going, they will just have to forfeit if unable to play.
Lemmings?
Look in the mirror. We all want to get back to "normal" ASAP, but until guys like you figure out that the only way to do that is to get some control over the virus, it ain't happening. Right now, the pandemic is raging worse than ever. Death toll yesterday was over 4,100, a new record. There are better treatments and vaccines will be administered over the next 6 months, so things should get dramatically better by this summer. Until then, wear a mask whenever you are in public, socially distance as much as possible, especially indoors, and keep washing your hands.I am not a medical doctor, but some professional advice from some friends on the front is to get a monoclonal antibody infusion, if you test positive, but don't yet have serious symptoms from the virus. At least in Houston, you just need a doctor's referral and most larger hospitals or clinics can administer the infusion.
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not trying to split hairs but have we defeated the common cold or the any flu viruses. The answer is no so please let me know when the war on this dastardly virus ends.
Although he was a pretty good guest on JBo's podcast the other week, pretty good listen.
You asked a question and made a statement. "How can you defeat a virus? Eventually you and I will get it."
I provided you with 2 historical examples to answer your question and refute the validity of your statement. There is currently a vaccine being distributed for this particular virus across the country and around the world that are said to be over 90% effective. I'm a transplant recipient. I'm immunosuppressed. I can't afford to catch it. I hope this vaccine and others that are under development are as effective as they believe. At this point I have no scientific or medical reason to believe otherwise and I don't believe you do either.
The problem is for the time being its almost impossible to get vaccinated right now. As an essential worker, will be in 1B phase 3 and we're no where near there yet. On the local news last night they were talking about how far behind we are on getting the vaccine in Missouri. We are currently getting only about 18,000 doses per week in the state. We are currently this week entering 1B phase 2 which is first responders, elderly at risk etc which is over 2 million people according to Mike Parsons Missouri gov. At that rate it will take many many months to get to essential workers , teachers etc...in 1B phase 3.
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Ok then in your example move that percentage of people who have had it to 50% of the population, which without vaccination would seem to be likely. Then redo your math. What does your new number of deaths come to?
Just curious, but a) how do you get to 50%? B) who said anything about not taking or distributing the vaccine?
You seem to be just tossing out numbers and scenarios that hold no realistic point, which does no good. I simply pointed out the facts and that they are nowhere near what we were told they would be.
No realistic point? I am just pointing out your numbers are based on what currently has happened and an attempt to minimize it. I think that if the virus continues to spread unchecked certainly within maybe 6 months 50% of the population would likely be infected. No I don’t have any models to predict that. I imagine I can find some if I really felt like putting in the effort. Just pointing out that your statement saying only 0.12% of the population is misleading from the perspective that a large portion of the population has not yet been infected. Thank goodness there has been very rapid development of the vaccine. Glad to hear you aren’t opposed to the vaccine.
So in over a year, less than 8% of the population had gotten it but in the next 6 months, we’ll somehow get to 50%?
And yes the numbers I used are based on “what’s happened” because they are the facts the CDC has given.And I’m not”minimizing it”. I am using the data given—you are free to draw whatever conclusions you want, as can anyone else. My conclusion is that we were told there was a real chance that we’d see 2 million dead by now but it’s absolutely nowhere near that. This isn’t the black fog of death we were told it was likely going to be.
And the factual number I used isn’t misleading. You can’t make up assumptions for facts. Your comment about a large portion hasn’t gotten it yet makes zero sense. So if everyone gets it the rate of deaths will somehow increase? How does that work?
The rate of deaths is better estimated by your number of 1.66%. People who had it versus people who died. Look at the number of cases Larry, been a lot of them in the last month. And now apparently more contagious strains. Yes you use factual numbers but you twist them. The death rate is not 0.12 %, 0.12 % of the population has died from the disease. There is a difference. Reply if you like we’re good though
OK that's fine, let's use that rate. The 1.66% death rate is only the amount of deaths from those who have gotten it. And less than 8% of every person in this country has gotten it. We've destroyed many lives for something that 1.66% out of 8% are dying from.
