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SEC and PAC12 are DOMINATING the NCAA Tournament; Big 12 & ACC Vastly Overrated?

Great post 2432Hawk. Great perspective on how the Big10 over achieved their seeding.

Still do not understand how Wisconsin was a 8 seed and Minnesota a 5? Yeah MN was hot but they also lost a key player going into the NCAA's, and Wisconsin worked out of their skid when they had some guys playing hurt, to get healthy at the right time of the year and made it to BigTen Title game. I thought they should have been a 5 seed. Well now they're pretty much the 1 seed in their region.
 
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Still do not understand how Wisconsin was a 8 seed and Minnesota a 5? Yeah MN was hot but they also lost a key player going into the NCAA's, and Wisconsin worked out of their skid when they had some guys playing hurt, to get healthy at the right time of the year and made it to BigTen Title game. I thought they should have been a 5 seed. Well now they're pretty much the 1 seed in their region.

I think they have a great shot to make the Final 4, too, now that the 1 Seed Villanova and 2 seed Duke are gone.
 
What stands out most is the acc falling flat on it's face. The conference that had been described as the toughest all season long by most talking heads only gets one team to the sweet 16. That's a major fail.
And it will make absolutely NO difference for the coverage and ratings next year.
 
******Conference Records Heading into the Elite 8******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:


1. SEC (10-2, .833)
Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Kentucky (South), #4 Florida (East), #7 South Carolina (East)

2. PAC 12 (9-3, .750)
Teams Still Alive (1): #3 Oregon (Midwest)

3. Big 12 (9-5, 643)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 Kansas (Midwest)

4. Big 10 (8-7, .533)
Teams Still Alive (0)

5. Big East (6-6, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #11 Xavier (West)

6. ACC (8-8, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 N Carolina (South)

Other Team(s) making up the Elite 8:
#1 Gonzaga (West)


Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament
 
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******Conference Records after March 25's games******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:


1. SEC (10-2, .833)
Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Kentucky (South), #4 Florida (East), #7 South Carolina (East)


2. PAC 12 (10-3, .769)
Teams Still Alive (1): #3 Oregon (Midwest)

3. Big 12 (9-6, .600)
Teams Still Alive (0)

4. Big 10 (8-7, .533)
Teams Still Alive (0)

5. ACC (8-8, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 N Carolina (South)

6. Big East (6-7, .462)
Teams Still Alive (0)


Other Team(s) making up the Final 4:
#1 Gonzaga (West)


Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament
 
I won't say Big 12 "sucked" but they were over seeded AGAIN. B1G was underseeded this year.

If the BIG was underseeded why is it that with one more team in the NCAA (7 of 14 for 50% of the BIG teams in the tourney) than the Big XII (6-10 for 60% in the NCAA tourney) and yet all 7 teams in the BIG went home before the last Big XII team exited the tourney. My math says otherwise. If the BIG had been given more respect as you suggest math says all 7 BIG teams would have gone home earlier. But then that's just me.

As for Kansas they have only played 7 players all season. I wonder if anyone else noticed that Bragg didn't play against Oregon. Not saying he would have made a difference because I don't know as he contributed much but he was a starter before he got into trouble with drugs earlier in the season. I didn't hear any mention of why he wasn't playing Friday night. Just curious.
 
If the BIG was underseeded why is it that with one more team in the NCAA (7 of 14 for 50% of the BIG teams in the tourney) than the Big XII (6-10 for 60% in the NCAA tourney) and yet all 7 teams in the BIG went home before the last Big XII team exited the tourney. My math says otherwise. If the BIG had been given more respect as you suggest math says all 7 BIG teams would have gone home earlier. But then that's just me.

As for Kansas they have only played 7 players all season. I wonder if anyone else noticed that Bragg didn't play against Oregon. Not saying he would have made a difference because I don't know as he contributed much but he was a starter before he got into trouble with drugs earlier in the season. I didn't hear any mention of why he wasn't playing Friday night. Just curious.

I guess you have no real idea on the how the advantage of seeding really works. I won't explain it to you.
 
I guess you have no real idea on the how the advantage of seeding really works. I won't explain it to you.

I certainly do understand seeding. I don't think it is interesting to see a #1 seed play a #16 in the first game but a #1 seed earns that right by playing more difficult schedules and playing better during the regular season.

There were three Big 10 teams ranked in the AP Top 25 most of the season, most weeks all three were in the bottom half of the AP. Most seasons the BIG usually have more eams ranked and a little higher than that. Heck even fans here were saying all season how weak the Big was this season so how does that correlate into thinking they weren't seeded high enough?

On average a team ranked 16 in the AP divided by 4 = a four seed. There are many other factors but it about averages out to that for the top seeded teams. When some of the automatic mid major teams start filtering in that drops a little bit. Purdue ended at the top of the Big 10 yet was only ranked 15th in the AP the final week and received a 4 seed, Michigan 23rd (9 seed) and Wisconsin 25th (8 seed). The Big usually does better than that.

It didn't seem to me there were as many upsets as usual in the early rounds so that seems to speak for the seeding be as accurate as possible.
 
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******Conference Records after March 25's games******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:


1. SEC (10-2, .833)
Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Kentucky (South), #4 Florida (East), #7 South Carolina (East)


2. PAC 12 (10-3, .769)
Teams Still Alive (1): #3 Oregon (Midwest)

3. Big 12 (9-6, .600)
Teams Still Alive (0)

4. Big 10 (8-7, .533)
Teams Still Alive (0)

5. ACC (8-8, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 N Carolina (South)

6. Big East (6-7, .462)
Teams Still Alive (0)


Other Team(s) making up the Final 4:
#1 Gonzaga (West)


Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament




******Conference Records Heading into the Elite 8******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:


1. SEC (10-2, .833)

Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Kentucky (South), #4 Florida (East), #7 South Carolina (East)

2. PAC 12 (9-3, .750)
Teams Still Alive (1): #3 Oregon (Midwest)

3. Big 12 (9-5, 643)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 Kansas (Midwest)

4. Big 10 (8-7, .533)
Teams Still Alive (0)

5. Big East (6-6, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #11 Xavier (West)

6. ACC (8-8, .500)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 N Carolina (South)

Other Team(s) making up the Elite 8:
#1 Gonzaga (West)


Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament




******Conference Records heading into the Sweet 16******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:

1. PAC 12 (8-1, .889)
Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Arizona (West), #3 Oregon (Midwest), #3 UCLA (South)

2. SEC (7-2, .778)
Teams Still Alive (3): #2 Kentucky (South), #4 Florida (East), #7 South Carolina (East)

3. Big 12 (8-3, 727)
Teams Still Alive (3): #1 Kansas (Midwest), #3 Baylor (East), #4 West Virginia (West)

4. Big 10 (8-4, .667)
Teams Still Alive (3): #4 Purdue (Midwest), #7 Michigan (Midwest), #8 Wisconsin (East)

5. Big East (5-5, .500)
Teams Still Alive (2): #4 Butler (South), #11 Xavier (West)

6. ACC (7-8, .467)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 N Carolina (South)


Other Team(s) making up the Sweet 16:
#1 Gonzaga (West)

Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament
The SEC is looking very strong this season.
 
I certainly do understand seeding. I don't think it is interesting to see a #1 seed play a #16 in the first game but a #1 seed earns that right by playing more difficult schedules and playing better during the regular season.

There were three Big 10 teams ranked in the AP Top 25 most of the season, most weeks all three were in the bottom half of the AP. Most seasons the BIG usually have more eams ranked and a little higher than that. Heck even fans here were saying all season how weak the Big was this season so how does that correlate into thinking they weren't seeded high enough?

On average a team ranked 16 in the AP divided by 4 = a four seed. There are many other factors but it about averages out to that for the top seeded teams. When some of the automatic mid major teams start filtering in that drops a little bit. Purdue ended at the top of the Big 10 yet was only ranked 15th in the AP the final week and received a 4 seed, Michigan 23rd (9 seed) and Wisconsin 25th (8 seed). The Big usually does better than that.

It didn't seem to me there were as many upsets as usual in the early rounds so that seems to speak for the seeding be as accurate as possible.


You obviously don't get it.
 
******Conference Records heading into the Final Four******

The SIX Major Basketball Conferences:


1. PAC 12 (10-3, .769)
Teams Still Alive (1): #3 Oregon (Midwest)

2. SEC (11-4, .733)
Teams Still Alive (1): #7 South Carolina (East)



3. Big 12 (9-6, .600)
Teams Still Alive (0)

4. Big 10 (8-7, .533)
Teams Still Alive (0)

5. ACC (9-8, .529)
Teams Still Alive (1): #1 North Carolina (South)

6. Big East (6-7, .462)
Teams Still Alive (0)


Other Team(s) making up the Final 4:
#1 Gonzaga (West)

Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ow-every-conference-has-fared-ncaa-tournament
 
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