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[Champ_Kind_whammy]

Transfer Portal Landing Spots for Miller Moss Include Miami Hurricanes, Michigan Wolverines

Former USC Trojans quarterback Miller Moss will have a list of suitors in the transfer portal, including the Miami Hurricanes and Michigan Wolverines.

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Iowa Hawkeyes​

We’ve seen enough of the Kirk Ferentz model to know that the Iowa Hawkeyes aren’t an attractive landing spot for top quarterback recruits, but that doesn’t mean they won’t try to land one.

The Hawkeyes are a consistently above-average football team without ever having a quarterback, which is the selling point. That being said, it’s career suicide if Moss has NFL aspirations unless he can break the cycle of bad Iowa QBs.

If Iowa can find the funding to coax a top transfer to Iowa City, the Hawkeyes are a real threat to compete for Big Ten championships. As it stands, the next talented quarterback transfer will be their first, and I’m in wait-and-see mode until someone finally decides to take the risk.

 

[AEG82]

I mean...it's hard to argue with honestly. It's definitely a truth.

 

[LampoonYou]

I mean...it's hard to argue with honestly. It's

Transfer Portal Landing Spots for Miller Moss Include Miami Hurricanes, Michigan Wolverines

Former USC Trojans quarterback Miller Moss will have a list of suitors in the transfer portal, including the Miami Hurricanes and Michigan Wolverines.

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Iowa Hawkeyes​

We’ve seen enough of the Kirk Ferentz model to know that the Iowa Hawkeyes aren’t an attractive landing spot for top quarterback recruits, but that doesn’t mean they won’t try to land one.

The Hawkeyes are a consistently above-average football team without ever having a quarterback, which is the selling point. That being said, it’s career suicide if Moss has NFL aspirations unless he can break the cycle of bad Iowa QBs.

If Iowa can find the funding to coax a top transfer to Iowa City, the Hawkeyes are a real threat to compete for Big Ten championships. As it stands, the next talented quarterback transfer will be their first, and I’m in wait-and-see mode until someone finally decides to take the risk.

Seriously, the comments are tame compared to what “brutal” could have been. But, if we landed a top QB with 2 top receivers? All’s we would have to worry about is pass blocking with a new front line.

 

[7thsummitcoach]

He's not wrong. 🤷‍♂️

 

[2D_]

Lester has the numbers on his side, he turned around the offense in so many ways. Transfers like Gill turned out to be a boon for the offense, proving that we don't always squander offensive transfers. Lester may not go after the top guys, but we all know he has an eye for talent, and I'm sure he'll key in on someone who has the talent and skill he's looking for.

 

[HawkBall23]

I'm just surprised the Hawkeyes were mentioned.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

It could be next level.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I'm just surprised the Hawkeyes were mentioned.

That's what Moss said

 

[Iron Doc]

Lester has the numbers on his side, he turned around the offense in so many ways. Transfers like Gill turned out to be a boon for the offense, proving that we don't always squander offensive transfers. Lester may not go after the top guys, but we all know he has an eye for talent, and I'm sure he'll key in on someone who has the talent and skill he's looking for.

Give credit to Lester for trying.
I don't see real improvement until Capt Fossil is gone.

 

[Gonzo Bloor]

Why would any QB or WR want to play for a HC whose dream scenario is punting for 3 1/2 quarters and praying for a defensive and/or special teams miracle? Lol.

 

[cidsports]

OC Tim Lester has some ties to Southern California. He found Jackson Stratton and his 2026 verbal there.

The bottom-line is Iowa needs a QB and much like the props and commentary ahead of Cade McNamara's pledge, a quality QB would complement the strengths of Hawkeye Football.

Remember:

 

[HawkBall23]

Why would any QB or WR want to play for a HC whose dream scenario is punting for 3 1/2 quarters and praying for a defensive and/or special teams miracle? Lol.

My emoji reaction choice to this post is what it is because its "sad, but true".

 

[hawklaw1212]

Lester has the numbers on his side, he turned around the offense in so many ways. Transfers like Gill turned out to be a boon for the offense, proving that we don't always squander offensive transfers. Lester may not go after the top guys, but we all know he has an eye for talent, and I'm sure he'll key in on someone who has the talent and skill he's looking for.

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

 

[markfromj]

He's not wrong. 🤷‍♂️

I didn’t even find it to be “brutal”.

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

Actually we’ll know sooner than that. KJ won’t be there for the bowl game.

So we’ll get a look at Sullivan healthy at least, but the big play threat…..is Moulton capable of breaking off big runs consistently ?

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

Why would any QB or WR want to play for a HC whose dream scenario is punting for 3 1/2 quarters and praying for a defensive and/or special teams miracle? Lol.

This is the Kirk model and everyone knows it. To some Iowa fans it’s the only possible scheme and philosophy that can work here.

To everyone else, it’s a laughingstock

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

This. It’s all due to the best back in the KF era making an offense not look abysmal. Until Iowa learns to throw the ball downfield to wr and the tight ends, it will remain a source of contention and struggle.

 

[kceasthawk]

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

Did Colt McCoy know he was watching a 5th string walk on QB, or did he not do his homework before the 12th game of the year?

 

[jonesy5960]

The bottom-line is Iowa needs a QB and much like the props and commentary ahead of Cade McNamara's pledge, a quality QB would complement the strengths of Hawkeye Football.

Remember:

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Please STOP reminding us. We're trying to put this debacle in the rear view mirror and this ain't helping.

 

[Georgia_Hawk]

The last few years have obviously been horrible, but KF does have some good QB history to show to recruits. Show recruits the highlights of Banks, Tate, Stanzi and Beathard and say "this is what we are going to return to"

 

[hexumhawk]

Bad fit for what I see our offense evolving into. We just need a guy that is mobile and can be accurate up to 20 yards basically. We take 0-1 deep shots a game as is.

 

[kceasthawk]

Please STOP reminding us. We're trying to put this debacle in the rear view mirror and this ain't helping.

I'm just not giving up on Lester after one year as OC. He inherits Cade who is damaged, Sully and Stratton don't join the team until fall camp, and have to learn a new system. The Cade is injured, Sully, then Marco. I think if he was trying to start working Sully into the offense as he was still learning it, then when he starts playing he gets hurt in the 2nd game. I'd give him the next couple of years to get it all together while expecting that next year will see marked improvement in the pass game. They made a comment during the broadcast that Lester had said he didn't have all the offense installed yet, including quite a bit of the two minute offense. I'm sure when Stratton came in the last two and a half games he had to really pull back on what he wanted to call. None of this happened in a vacuum......

 

[jonesy5960]

I'm just not giving up on Lester after one year as OC. He inherits Cade who is damaged, Sully and Stratton don't join the team until fall camp, and have to learn a new system. The Cade is injured, Sully, then Marco. I think if he was trying to start working Sully into the offense as he was still learning it, then when he starts playing he gets hurt in the 2nd game. I'd give him the next couple of years to get it all together while expecting that next year will see marked improvement in the pass game. They made a comment during the broadcast that Lester had said he didn't have all the offense installed yet, including quite a bit of the two minute offense. I'm sure when Stratton came in the last two and a half games he had to really pull back on what he wanted to call. None of this happened in a vacuum......

Who said they were giving up on Lester? This was about Cade's transfer to Iowa.

 

[squeezebox]

I'll stick to it and say it will come down between Auburn and Iowa. I am thinking Slater ends up at Lousiville, and Michigan is rolling with their 12 million dollar arm.

 

[kceasthawk]

Who said they were giving up on Lester? This was about Cade's transfer to Iowa.

There are several posts in this thread that Lester hasn't really turned the offense around or done anything with the pass game this year. I'm just pointing out I think he's been handicapped almost from day one, even with the guys he's brought in. I think he has some good concepts and will see continued improvement going forward.

 

[jonesy5960]

There are several posts in this thread that Lester hasn't really turned the offense around or done anything with the pass game this year. I'm just pointing out I think he's been handicapped almost from day one, even with the guys he's brought in. I think he has some good concepts and will see continued improvement going forward.

Ok, but you were replying to my comment that had nothing to do with that.

 

[Iron Doc]

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

The true test will be when the Fossil-In-Chief is gone.

 

[mustang_hawk]

There are several posts in this thread that Lester hasn't really turned the offense around or done anything with the pass game this year. I'm just pointing out I think he's been handicapped almost from day one, even with the guys he's brought in. I think he has some good concepts and will see continued improvement going forward.

Unfortunately, the handicap is his boss. He’s pretty much stuck with that handicap as long as he’s here.

 

[kceasthawk]

Unfortunately, the handicap is his boss. He’s pretty much stuck with that handicap as long as he’s here.

I'm not convinced thats true. I think we saw changes made to the run concepts, and I think changes were being brought in the pass game, but Cades struggles and injuries prevented Lester from having much of a chance at any real success this season. We'll see what plays out next season. I've already said I think the offense will be better in Lester's second year, barring another significant injury issue to one or more position groups....

 

[mustang_hawk]

I'm not convinced thats true. I think we saw changes made to the run concepts, and I think changes were being brought in the pass game, but Cades struggles and injuries prevented Lester from having much of a chance at any real success this season. We'll see what plays out next season. I've already said I think the offense will be better in Lester's second year, barring another significant injury issue to one or more position groups....

Unfortunately, Lester will only be able to do the things that KF will let him. I will just have to see a true change in that situation before I believe it.

 

[iowamike21]

Lester has the numbers on his side, he turned around the offense in so many ways. Transfers like Gill turned out to be a boon for the offense, proving that we don't always squander offensive transfers. Lester may not go after the top guys, but we all know he has an eye for talent, and I'm sure he'll key in on someone who has the talent and skill he's looking for.

It might be worth remembering that Lester, while HC at Western Michigan, recruited Sullivan. You can never have too many good QBs, but let's not forget how Sullivan turned the Iowa offense on and set KJ free once he took over. I think Sully, if he could stay healthy, would be an outstanding QB next season. But that doesn't mean Iowa should ignore the portal QBs. Still, Lester and Sully have a history, and I think by next fall, Sully would be ready to roll as a dual threat QB who would open up the running game and re-establish the Iowa passing game for the first time in six years.

 

[HawksRule73]

Did he really turn around the offense like u suggest? I mean, can anyone say the pass offense improved at all? Colt Mccoy couldn’t believe how inept our passing attack was against Nebraska - and he was right. No creativity, no deep balls, no passing on first down - ever. Also fell away from TE this season, which was about the only positive thing the Iowa passing offense had over the years. The only thing Iowa did arguably better this year was run the ball, but how much of that can be attributed to simply having a generational talent carrying the ball? Guess we’ll know next year when he is no longer here. Play calling was marginally better in my opinion. Nothing to write home about that’s for sure.

Our offense was so effing broken that there's no way Lester (or anyone) was going to fix it in one year.....especially given the fact that he didn't get here until late January and none of the QBs were available until the summer. So Lester did the smart thing.....he went all in on making sure the run game install was complete for this year given the generational talent we had at RB and lo and behold, we finished #1 in the conference in rushing and 10th in the country. He also said he wanted to cut our ppg ranking in half by being better in the redzone. We were and we went from dead last to I think 66th in the country in ppg (and that was without really any scoring by the D other than 1 pick 6).

Now, with a full offseason coming up to do a passing game install, plus conceivably getting a QB he wants from the portal, I think we'll all be pleasantly surprised by the results of the passing game next year.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I didn’t even find it to be “brutal”.

Tame by message-board standards. Still, local beat writers could learn something from this author.

 

[kceasthawk]

Unfortunately, Lester will only be able to do the things that KF will let him. I will just have to see a true change in that situation before I believe it.

Thats fine. I actually believe that Lester had the reins this year, but because of are inability to keep a healthy talent on the field at QB, he really had to limit what game plan he put out there every game. Cades issues were obvious and besides being injured much of the last three years, it was also his third year in a row under a different OC with a different system. Sully and Stratton didn't get here until fall, and got basically an abbreviated amount of the offense. Just when Sully started getting more comfortable in the new system, he gets injured, Marco's injured and we turn to a walk on who handn't even been running our offense at all until Sully got hurt. That hardly seems like a recipe for success

 

[TXHCHawk]

I'll stick to it and say it will come down between Auburn and Iowa. I am thinking Slater ends up at Lousiville, and Michigan is rolling with their 12 million dollar arm.

If I'm being gratuitous, Michigan is making a short-term play for the long-term gain. If I'm being cynical, I think Michigan will use their coffers to keep any B1G team within competitive reach (eg, IOWA) from getting important pieces, whether they sincerely would offer or not. If nothing more than to up the ante and skew other offers out of some teams reach.

 

[squeezebox]

If I'm being gratuitous, Michigan is making a short-term play for the long-term gain. If I'm being cynical, I think Michigan will use their coffers to keep any B1G team within competitive reach (eg, IOWA) from getting important pieces, whether they sincerely would offer or not. If nothing more than to up the ante and skew other offers out of some teams reach.

They will either go full A&M with 40 million dollar classes (which we will see if they pay), or that OSU victory will go down as one of the most pivotal games in their school history.

 

[BioHawk]

That's an accurate assessment. The only thing that might be added is with Lester, there is a change that can't fully be accounted for and they showed with Sullivan and Stratton that there is room for a capable QB to flourish in the offense, they just have to prove they can do it.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Iowa WAS better on O. They were still bad, but an AA running back and some small improvements in run blocking overcame a still terrible passing attack.
Not expecting greatness next year, but there's at least a chance that the passing O will make the leap from terrible to a respectable below average.