By mid-level, or in his words, middle level, he is referring to the fact that he's the one taking the garbage to the trash bin.
Serious question for Trump voters
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I literally hoped for Trump in 2017. I had no clue he could be that terrible. I knew we had a problem when he had Spicer going off on crowd size.
I'm a business owner. I voted for him also. His new press secretary is very good at her job compared to SS.
1. Economy, immigration, Dems actively damaging both of those things.
2. Same as above.
3. Tax cuts, taking a stand on illegal immigrant crime, DOGE, etc.
4. I don't like his personality and never have, although I do find him funny sometimes. I've never voted for him in a primary. It didn't matter because he was still the best option on the issues that mattered.
5. I doubted he could deliver on everything, and still do, but his intent is correct and it's just political opposition holding him back, so not his fault.
6. Not yet, but he has 3.5 more years.
7. No, he can't run again. I'd prefer not to vote for him again, never wanted to to begin with.
hawkeyetraveler
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Dumb and narrow minded. I was CEO of a company you have heard of and probably bought products from at some point.
I voted Harris. There are many many senior corporate executives that voted Harris. In my circle, which has a bunch of corporate types, I’m not aware of anyone who is happy about what Trump is doing. Not one. I’m sure they are out there, but it isn’t like it is as black and white as you make it seem.
I used to vote for the GOP from time to time, but never since Trump came down the escalator. And I will never vote for any lickspittle spineless gimp of a GOP politician that supported Trump. He is a stain on the integrity of our country.
My guess is you either work in a very conservative industry, or your colleagues think you are a deranged MAGA and choose not to engage.
Trump's a convicted felon who tried to overturn a presidential election he knew he had lost. Because of these facts how could anyone, regardless of party, ever vote for this guy, period!
I was guessing he lived in a cave in Alabama or Mississippi and their only channel is Fox news. You made it sound more eloquent.
It’s not an opinion. He asked you a legitimate question and you have no answer of course.
OK you're right, it's not an opinion. It's a fact, that Kamala is far left.
Welcome to the last 4 years of Joe Biden… outside of this board, I haven’t talked to anyone who proudly voted for Joe. I know California and New York vote blue, but it’s hard to figure where all Joe’s votes came from…
As far as the OP: I didn’t vote for Trump this time, but my main thing was the border (he fixed day 1) and gas prices… I got gas in Georgia over the weekend for $2.40 a gallon, which is crazy.
I wouldn’t vote for him again because he’s not eligible to run again.
All industries are conservative at their core. I bet you believe in hiring the most capable, competent, knowledgeable, experienced, and hard working people possible, regardless of sexual orientation, skin color, or religion. You probably dont support hiring or promoting 2nd tier candidates just to meet a quota.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Legend
I see it like this:
Ultra-conservative: Promotes specific religious or Judeo-Christian values in the workplace. Hobby Lobby, Koch Industries, etc. No investment whatsoever in any affinity groups. No focus on diversity, and an implicit bias against diversity.
Moderate: somewhat as you wrote above. However, most people in this group also believe it is a good thing when there are affinity groups. Having a “women in business” or other affinity group in a company isn’t hiring or promoting based on color/gender. It is making sure you are getting the most engagement from your employees possible. As a straight white man I have been proud to sponsor such groups and I have learned a ton in working with them. I am 100% convinced they have made the organizations I led more effective. I have also used diversity as a tie breaker in my own hiring. If I have two candidates that present equally well and one brings a different life experience to the table I will choose that candidate - this helps address the group think challenge, it helps a business better understand that demographic/market, etc.
Ultra-liberal: this might be a myth in corporate America, but I suppose there might be a company out there that bases a hiring decision on diversity criteria at the expense of competence. This seems more the province of academia and non-profits.
So I disagree, I don’t think what you describe is conservative, I think it is moderate.
Edit to add: most CEOs/senior execs I know, myself included, are fiscal conservatives. But most aren’t in a socially conservative holy war against DEI like MAGA. They are pragmatic and if the climate is pro DEI they support it. When the climate is anti-DEI they quietly cancel those programs. They aren’t cancelling them because they see a lack of efficacy necessarily. They are cancelling them to avoid the backlash with conservative customers. In other words, it’s not a political stance, it is a business stance.
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i don't think anyone has a "quota"
i think a lot of organizations - particularly those that deal directly with the public - are well served by having a staff/leadership that looks like, speaks like, and has similar experiences to the communities and populations they are trying to engage
this isn't earth shattering, or even particularly insightful - it is common sense. but even the idea that companies and organizations should pay attention to these things has been weaponized politically.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Legend
I agree - and I don’t think that is a conservative stance in the least. It’s apolitical and practical. Thus I think of it as moderate.
Read an article in WSJ Saturday bout a hedge fund called Marshall Wace founded by 2 investment bankers in 1997 with 50 million seed money from varied sources across the ideological including Soros.
Marshall is a very public far-right conservative who has bankrolled a number of conservative media properties.
Wace has said he does not agree with anything Marshall has said.
But this pair have created their fund which now tops 70 billion by utilizing each others special skills and backgrounds .
Diversity in thought was instrumental in their success.
Marshall gave 200k to support brexit so wace matched it by giving 200k to anti- brexit cause.
It is an instructive read.
Marshall is a very public far-right conservative who has bankrolled a number of conservative media properties.
Wace has said he does not agree with anything Marshall has said.
But this pair have created their fund which now tops 70 billion by utilizing each others special skills and backgrounds .
Diversity in thought was instrumental in their success.
Marshall gave 200k to support brexit so wace matched it by giving 200k to anti- brexit cause.
It is an instructive read.
