Should Wiegers Start?

[cedarvalleykid14]

I don't know. And none of us knows exactly how bad off CJ is, so I'm doing what fans do...I'm speculating.

Perhaps, and I say perhaps, it would be smart to start Wiegers and see how it goes. You always have CJ ready to go if Wiegers can't handle it.

On the other hand, if you start CJ and he's so banged up he's ineffective and, perhaps, aggravates his injuries, you have to go to Wiegers in desperation mode.

It sounds like Tyler took most of the first team reps this week. Would new KF surprise NW by starting him and keep CJ in the wings?

I'm probably reading too much into it, but everything I've seen, CJ and KF both have said CJ "definitely will play." I haven't seen a quote from anyone that claims he definitely will "start."

I could see pretty good arguments on both sides of this question. But if Tyler had a good week at practice, and if CJ is as dinged up as it appears, I might be inclined to start Tyler and let him go as long he could. As old and new KF agree, "Tyler's got a scholarship, too."

All the injuries are a shame, but I just have a feeling the Hawkeyes come out of this with the win by doing whatever it takes.

 

[hawkit3113]

No dude.

 

[Kinnick 4 Prez]

No.

 

[cedarvalleykid14]

Thanks for the incisive analysis, fellas.

 

[charlie sheeen]

Nah.

 

[Herkmeister]

No chance.............. And Tyler got the reps to rest "the MAN".

 

[rivercityjazzman]

I get what you're saying, and can appreciate your thoughtful perspective, BUT: 1) you don't sub out a winning QB unless he's physically unable to perform; 2) you don't put a redshirt freshman, with little game experience, into a starting QB role unless you are desperate.

The solution: call a lot of running plays, use the RB for extra protection in pass plays, minimize plays that are slow-developers (exposing QB too long).

 

[BUCKSNDUCKS]

Absolutely NOT - he has the experience to manage the offense . He may not run like he did, but knows how to call the offense and can throw a bullet when needed

 

[nick21ia]

I don't know. And none of us knows exactly how bad off CJ is, so I'm doing what fans do...I'm speculating.

Perhaps, and I say perhaps, it would be smart to start Wiegers and see how it goes. You always have CJ ready to go if Wiegers can't handle it.

On the other hand, if you start CJ and he's so banged up he's ineffective and, perhaps, aggravates his injuries, you have to go to Wiegers in desperation mode.

It sounds like Tyler took most of the first team reps this week. Would new KF surprise NW by starting him and keep CJ in the wings?

I'm probably reading too much into it, but everything I've seen, CJ and KF both have said CJ "definitely will play." I haven't seen a quote from anyone that claims he definitely will "start."

I could see pretty good arguments on both sides of this question. But if Tyler had a good week at practice, and if CJ is as dinged up as it appears, I might be inclined to start Tyler and let him go as long he could. As old and new KF agree, "Tyler's got a scholarship, too."

All the injuries are a shame, but I just have a feeling the Hawkeyes come out of this with the win by doing whatever it takes.

I weep for the state of fans now. You never sit a starter, especially at QB because he is dinged a bit. That has got to be the stupidest thing I have read on these boards, and I have read a lot. When did we become such pansies that a rumor, a rumor so our QB being injured and we have these types of posts. CJ has said he is fine to play, who are you to suggest otherwise??

 

[KuwaitHawk]

Starting Wiegers would be a shock. Would that mean if CJ played later in the game and Iowa lost, he still has his perfect record?

 

[nu2u]

WTF? no. You always start your best QB.

 

[MepoDawg#]

No

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Tell me this isn't the hair of a winner....

 

[Kurt Warner]

Sunshine is da man, hell he would play if they had to amputate an arm and leg, sunshine rocks baby

 

[tigerhawkfan2]

We will only see CJ on Saturday. He can rest next week.

 

[Birky]

JFC! Stop. We don't even know what is wrong with him. The guy doesn't even have a limp.

 

[ICSquawk]

Yes, if CJ has a groin pull that is partially healed.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

JFC! Stop. We don't even know what is wrong with him. The guy doesn't even have a limp.

Well, there are quite a few watchers saying he has a pretty bad limp...

 

[yrunvs]

Depends. If CJ has an injury that would keep any other starter out then maybe.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

If CJ is at 50% he is better than a healthy wiegers right now.

 

[cedarvalleykid14]

Some of you do struggle with the English language. Have somebody read it to you. I asked a question and offered no definitive answer. I used the word "speculate" because no one on here knows how badly CJ is injured. But thanks for your intelligent, thoughtful analyses.

 

[NashvilleHawk]

Need to get Wiegers some reps against Maryland, if we can.
Wish he would've played more against North Texas.

 

[jdv77]

Well, we can probably imagine a scenario where CJ was so injured that he should not play. But nothing that we know would lead to that conclusion. Unless, of course, you have secret inside information from stevenpatrick.

 

[QChawks]

Hell no

 

[EastIowaHawk]

No. No. No. Too inexperienced.

 

[timinatoria]

Some of you do struggle with the English language. Have somebody read it to you. I asked a question and offered no definitive answer. I used the word "speculate" because no one on here knows how badly CJ is injured. But thanks for your intelligent, thoughtful analyses.

Nyet.

 

[C/Seahawk]

If Wiegers starts, do we turn back the clock and go with the old school timing type of passing game that you yearn for?

Your primary question(should we sit CJ if he is less than 100% but able to play) warrants a one word response, that being a resounding no. Who at this point in the season is 100%?

 

[icu81222]

No. But, if CJ can limp through this with a win, the extra prep time could be really nice for Wiegers. Hard to get a QB through a full season so this could be a blessing for later.

Not to mention, if CJ can't go very long, the Hawks had the benefit of Wiegers getting all the reps this week so he is more prepared than if CJ were healthy and unexpectedly went down during the game and had to scramble to throw Wiegers in.

Kinda like JVB against JNW when Stanzi got rolled up on

 

[Hawks1988]

Do some of you have blinders on? Beathard is injured--he was limping in the 4th quarter against Illinois. I am not saying Wiegers will start, I am saying that I hope he is prepared and has worked with the 1st team offense this week so we don't have a Vandenberg scenario if he has to come in, like the Stanzi scenario again Northwestern.

 

[HerkysBro]

uh.....NO

 

[LeroyHawk]

Yes, we should start Weigers and bring CJ in after one play. That would really mess with their minds and we'd win for sure. Genius!

 

[Pepperman]

OP's thought process is fine if CJ's really hurt, but the facts are we simply have no clue how bad CJ's injury is. If it is bad enough that he can't go, then obviously (duh) he wouldn't start and maybe wouldn't even play.

The thing is CJ said earlier this week he's ok to play, and that's enough for me. That's also why many are responding with one word, "no".

 

[nu2u]

Some of you do struggle with the English language. Have somebody read it to you. I asked a question and offered no definitive answer. I used the word "speculate" because no one on here knows how badly CJ is injured. But thanks for your intelligent, thoughtful analyses.

You may not have offered a definitive answer but you did offer a specific suggestion, to wit:

Perhaps, and I say perhaps, it would be smart to start Wiegers and see how it goes. You always have CJ ready to go if Wiegers can't handle it.

You wanted feedback on whether that proposition ("to start Wiegers and see how it goes") would be smart, right?

When people respond to say that such a proposition would not be smart, it doesn't mean that they fail to understand that the suggestion is speculative, it means that they think the proposition is dumb.

 

[SMBHAWK]

If CJ is healthy enough to play, he starts and plays until he is physically unable to. That is the point Wiegers enters the game and not before then.

 

[swihawkeye]

This is an important game. If Beathard can play, you know he will be starting, only necessity will put the #2 in play.

Even "new" Kirk wouldn't start Wiegers unless he absolutely has to.

 

[normgranger]

If cj is 100 percent no. If cj is still healing from a bad groin pull you don't risk losing your best qb for multiple games. We still have 5 games to play after nw and we get a bye week in there. I would rather rest my best qb for 3 weeks and have him for the stretch run and bowl game than lose him for the season. Groin strains/pulls are a bitch to heal and as aggressive as cj is you know he will run. Hope he is ready but I wouldn't push it.

 

[nu2u]

If cj is still healing from a bad groin pull you don't risk losing your best qb for multiple games.

If the U of I doctors, physical therapy, and rehab experts indicate that Beathard is OK to play, is the risk that much greater than any other game where he is relatively healthy? I think its safe to assume that Ferentz would not play Beathard unless he had such assurances.

Not challenging your judgment, I just don't know. A medical clearance must have some value. If the med and PT professionals are in agreement and as long as the coaches devise a game plan to limit exposure, I don't see a substantial increase in risk of injury.

 

[CoachRickVice]

No

 

[Hawksfan7]

I don't know. And none of us knows exactly how bad off CJ is, so I'm doing what fans do...I'm speculating.

Perhaps, and I say perhaps, it would be smart to start Wiegers and see how it goes. You always have CJ ready to go if Wiegers can't handle it.

On the other hand, if you start CJ and he's so banged up he's ineffective and, perhaps, aggravates his injuries, you have to go to Wiegers in desperation mode.

It sounds like Tyler took most of the first team reps this week. Would new KF surprise NW by starting him and keep CJ in the wings?

I'm probably reading too much into it, but everything I've seen, CJ and KF both have said CJ "definitely will play." I haven't seen a quote from anyone that claims he definitely will "start."

I could see pretty good arguments on both sides of this question. But if Tyler had a good week at practice, and if CJ is as dinged up as it appears, I might be inclined to start Tyler and let him go as long he could. As old and new KF agree, "Tyler's got a scholarship, too."

All the injuries are a shame, but I just have a feeling the Hawkeyes come out of this with the win by doing whatever it takes.

 

[Hawksfan7]

Yeah, let's go just sit 7-0 CJB against our most important game of the season. I like that idea.