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SIAP, but I haven't seen it yet. 61 years ago today, JFK was assassinated.

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I was in the 2nd grade when we got the news from our principle over the PA system. We all went home early and just watched the coverage of the event on TV. Being only 3 networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC, and no cable news, it was the only story for the next several days. It seemed like the nation just came to a standstill.
 
For the posters that haven't been there, the 6th Floor Museum in Dealey Plaza is an incredible experience. It's essentially the same as it was on that floor on the day of the assassination. Same walls, floors, windows...etc. The smell is haunting. I enjoyed the exhibits a great deal. Walking around the Plaza is equally interesting, as it's also the same as it was on that terrible day. I stood beside the concrete perch that Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination from and was amazed at his poise to keep his camera focused on the Presidential limo while the shots were ringing out. Looking back from the perch at the old TSBD, it's not that far away! The entire plaza is quite small.
 
At 12:20pm that day, I was sitting in Grace Lautenbach’s freshman Wnglish class at Pella Commynity High School. The principal interrupted the class via intercom, and it was the middle of 5th period ( which was a “split-lunch hour) and announced that there were reports that President Kennedy had been shot at in Dallas and their would be reports forthcoming. A little after 1:00pm, as the period ended, the Principal came back on the intercom and announced that Kennedy had been assassinated, and the “pep assembly” scheduled later that afternoon was cancelled. However, the game that night with Valley would be played as scheduled and the pep busses would leave the High School at their scheduled time.
Pella High got their asses handed to them that night at the old Phoenix Grade School gym in West Des Moines.
When I got home from the game (probably about 11pm), Kennedy was still dead and Oswald was still the lead suspect and the rifle had been found. The next few days were a blur…and Sunday I watched my first murder in my life as Ruby gunned down Oswalt inside Dallas Police Headquarters on national TV.
The world pivoted at this point in history.
 
At 12:20pm that day, I was sitting in Grace Lautenbach’s freshman Wnglish class at Pella Commynity High School. The principal interrupted the class via intercom, and it was the middle of 5th period ( which was a “split-lunch hour) and announced that there were reports that President Kennedy had been shot at in Dallas and their would be reports forthcoming. A little after 1:00pm, as the period ended, the Principal came back on the intercom and announced that Kennedy had been assassinated, and the “pep assembly” scheduled later that afternoon was cancelled. However, the game that night with Valley would be played as scheduled and the pep busses would leave the High School at their scheduled time.
Pella High got their asses handed to them that night at the old Phoenix Grade School gym in West Des Moines.
When I got home from the game (probably about 11pm), Kennedy was still dead and Oswald was still the lead suspect and the rifle had been found. The next few days were a blur…and Sunday I watched my first murder in my life as Ruby gunned down Oswalt inside Dallas Police Headquarters on national TV.
The world pivoted at this point in history.

Good potential here for an inspirational sports movie.
 
A dreadful day in American history.

My Grandfather was in the Navy in WW2 and knew JFK...not well but he knew him a little. He said JFK was known as "the rich kid."

I'm an amateur historian. I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam. Former defense secretary Robert McNamara agreed.

History would have been so much different. There wouldn't have been a Vietnam War. There wouldn't have been Watergate. The whole hippy counterculture movement never would have happened. Probably.

And I'm also convinced that Oswald acted alone. I'd bet $5,000 on that.
 
It sounds like Dallas was an extreme RW hotbed at that time. The Civil Rights movement was gaining momentum and the blowback from some of the city's population was "alarming". The John Birch Society had handed out thousands of anti-Kennedy pamphlets around the city prior to his visit. A lot of these "complaints" sound just like today. It seems that little has changed. One concerned citizen had written Pierre Salinger, Kennedy's Press Secretary, a letter asking him to dissuade Kennedy from appearing in public in Dallas. This was after an attack against our UN ambassador was assaulted after giving a public speech a month before Kennedy's visit.

In our current election we heard talk to tone down the rhetoric, but I don't think we came close to what was going on down there in 1963.

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Anyway, here are a couple of links to stories describing the mood of that era.

https://slate.com/human-interest/20...by-edwin-walker-s-group-before-his-visit.html

https://slate.com/human-interest/20...itizen-begged-the-president-not-to-visit.html
 
For the posters that haven't been there, the 6th Floor Museum in Dealey Plaza is an incredible experience. It's essentially the same as it was on that floor on the day of the assassination. Same walls, floors, windows...etc. The smell is haunting. I enjoyed the exhibits a great deal. Walking around the Plaza is equally interesting, as it's also the same as it was on that terrible day. I stood beside the concrete perch that Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination from and was amazed at his poise to keep his camera focused on the Presidential limo while the shots were ringing out. Looking back from the perch at the old TSBD, it's not that far away! The entire plaza is quite small.
Having visited the museum I felt an eerie sadness. Assume I would feel the same visiting WTC Memorial or one of the concentration camp museum/memorials.
It is definitely worth checking out.

I can’t get the link to post but
How about Oswald fielding questions at a press conference. I can’t believe they had him up answering questions.
 
A dreadful day in American history.

My Grandfather was in the Navy in WW2 and knew JFK...not well but he knew him a little. He said JFK was known as "the rich kid."

I'm an amateur historian. I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam. Former defense secretary Robert McNamara agreed.

History would have been so much different. There wouldn't have been a Vietnam War. There wouldn't have been Watergate. The whole hippy counterculture movement never would have happened. Probably.

And I'm also convinced that Oswald acted alone. I'd bet $5,000 on that.
I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam.

Which is probably at least one of the main reasons he was assassinated. Oswald acting alone is the stupidest theory of the assassination.
 
I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam.

Which is probably at least one of the main reasons he was assassinated. Oswald acting alone is the stupidest theory of the assassination.

The evidence that Oswald acted alone is overwhelming.

If you think the CIA, mob or any other entity could keep that covered up for 61 years, well, they couldn't.
 
A dreadful day in American history.

My Grandfather was in the Navy in WW2 and knew JFK...not well but he knew him a little. He said JFK was known as "the rich kid."

I'm an amateur historian. I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam. Former defense secretary Robert McNamara agreed.

History would have been so much different. There wouldn't have been a Vietnam War. There wouldn't have been Watergate. The whole hippy counterculture movement never would have happened. Probably.

And I'm also convinced that Oswald acted alone. I'd bet $5,000 on that.
I have listened lot podcasts and watch documentaries. Seems like I 100% buy into the last thing I watched or listened to.

Sometimes I know he acted alone, sometimes I know it was a conspiracy.

The Rob Reiner podcast series on it was good. So many links even if Oswald did act alone.

I little disappointed there wasn’t some death bed confessions the past couple decades. To confirm stories either way.
 
I'm pretty sure if JFK had of lived, he would have withdrawn from Vietnam.

Which is probably at least one of the main reasons he was assassinated. Oswald acting alone is the stupidest theory of the assassination.
Oswald acting alone certainly was possible. Shit happens! In the 60+ years since happening, there has been no real evidence come forth if any plot…which would seem unlikely IF others were involved. It’s not like this assassunation hasn’t been gone over with a fine tooth comb. Still, there were folks who wanted Kennedy killed there is no doubt of that.
 
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The evidence that Oswald acted alone is overwhelming.

If you think the CIA, mob or any other entity could keep that covered up for 61 years, well, they couldn't.

You're an interesting cat. When you decide something is a certain way, you dig in your heels and put the blinders on. End of discussion. That's the way it is. Period.

There are too many holes in the official story to list here. That's why it's an ongoing topic among so many, even 60 years later. As for the "couldn't keep it covered up" angle. That's a logical fallacy used to dismiss many things. You don't have to keep it "covered up"... just discredited enough so most people don't believe it. Most of the population just goes with the approved storyline...even if it's false. That's never been more apparent.

It's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled.
 
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You're an interesting cat. When you decide something is a certain way, you dig in your heels and put the blinders on. End of discussion. That's the way it is. Period.

There are too many holes in the official story to list here. That's why it's an ongoing topic among so many, even 60 years later. As for the "couldn't keep it covered up" angle. That's a logical fallacy used to dismiss many things. You don't have to keep it "covered up"... just discredited enough so most people don't believe it. Most of the population just goes with the approved storyline...even if it's false. That's never been more apparent.

It's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled.

If you or anyone else has any credible information that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, please present it.

You could write a book, go on TV and be rich and famous.

Most Americans believe there was a conspiracy actually.

 
If you or anyone else has any credible information that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, please present it.

You could write a book, go on TV and be rich and famous.

Most Americans believe there was a conspiracy actually.

But there has never been any tangible proof that there was a conspiracy. Without evidence you gave nothing. Supposition is fact less.
Would I be surprised there was a “plot”? Absolutely not. BUT 60+ years and nothing of substance/proof or evidence has ever come forth.
 
For the posters that haven't been there, the 6th Floor Museum in Dealey Plaza is an incredible experience. It's essentially the same as it was on that floor on the day of the assassination. Same walls, floors, windows...etc. The smell is haunting. I enjoyed the exhibits a great deal. Walking around the Plaza is equally interesting, as it's also the same as it was on that terrible day. I stood beside the concrete perch that Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination from and was amazed at his poise to keep his camera focused on the Presidential limo while the shots were ringing out. Looking back from the perch at the old TSBD, it's not that far away! The entire plaza is quite small.
It's a surreal experience to see it all first hand, largely bc as you said, the compact space it all took place in. The "grassy knoll" is like 40-50 yards away from the road. The distance from the 6th floor to the road isn't nearly as far as most would think either.
 
I’m old enough that it was an enormous event in my life. 9th grade and a freshman. At a Catholic High School and Father McCall the Assistant Principal came on to tell us the President had been shot. No word on his condition. But he began to lead us all in saying the Rosary and all the girls were crying. He interrupted to say I am sorry to inform you that President Kennedy has died.
Teachers crying or in shock kids crying and scared.
School was over essentially and we walked out to traffic bedlam. Everyone rushing to get home.
We were glued to our TV all weekend and were watching on Sunday morning when we witnessed Oswald get shot on live TV. My Dad was so upset and I didn’t understand it at the time but he had an anxiety attack and a PTSD moment (WWII Vet)
It was the beginning of some very chaotic years for us Boomer kids. The Civil Rights Movement, Vietnam, MLK and RFK both murdered. Medgar Evers. Little girls in a Black Church in Alabama.

I’ve been to the 6th floor twice and the aura of evil is real to me.
 
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I was going into junior high gym class. A 9th grader checking us in said "Kennedy's been shot." I was shocked and said "why would anyone want to shot Mr. Kennedy (my algebra teacher)." The 9th grader said "the President you idiot."
 
Don't know if Oswald acted alone, but do think he only fired two shots. Both were full metal jacket bullets and the kill shot was from an exploding bullet. Thats why the brain "disappeared". Oswald fired shots but debatable if he sent the killshot.
 
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