SIX Penn St Asst Coaches witnessed Sandusky/inappropriate behavior dating back to the 1970's

[Shafthawk]

I agree 100%. It's just inconceivable. Absolutely inconceivable. And every time I say that I think of Catholic Church which went through something even worse.

Absolutely, and that is a good example too (Catholic Church).

 

[Herkmeister]

Absolutely, and that is a good example too (Catholic Church).

I read there's a psychological explanation. That people are somehow compelled to protect an institution on which they all rely.

 

[Shafthawk]

Yes, I knew he continued to use facilities. Had not considered that he owned them. If the admin did not know of his activities (use of facilities) I don't see where he'd have clout.

Not arguing. Trying to understand your point Shafthawk.

That's just it, they did know he was defying their ban on him using campus facilities. Yet, they obviously felt powerless to enforce it. Why would that be? Because, he held their fate in his hands.


When the lid finally came off, there could have been negotiation between Sandusky and those that had been involved at PSU.

Sandusky was screwed, so he may have agreed to take the entire fall, in exchange for something, setting his family up monetarily for example.

It seemed like Paterno and the other PSU admins thought that they would be able to escape problems/blame during the trial. But, things didn't go to plan during the Grand Jury Investigation. Too many questions were being focused back on the administration. The backlash wasn't supposed to come back their way, but it did.

Paterno had originally testified that the red-head came to him with a story about an incident between Sandusky and a kid, that was of a sexual nature.

Later on, when things weren't going well for Paterno and the PSU admin, that all of a sudden it became a vague story. That is pure lawyer work, right there. Doesn't pass the smell test though. Is there anyone on this board that can imagine someone coming to them and telling them of such an incident vaguely? Would you let that person leave your house before eliminating anything that was vague? No way, you would probe that person for the answers on anything remotely vague. Child rape on campus is kind of a big deal to let any questions go unanswered, one would think.

That explanation by the lawyers was nothing more than an attempt to give JoePa an out. To explain his actions of not going forth with the info to higher ups until after the weekend. Yes, he was told about the incident, but it was vague. Nice try, but just doesn't hold water. The magnifying glass was finally placed over Happy Valley, and their plan unraveled.

 

[Herkmeister]

Thank you for taking the time to explain that Shafthawk. I had not assessed it in that context. Very logical and likely completely correct.

Do you think Joe Pa ever revealed a thing to any members of his family? I get the impression he did not.

It makes me wonder how this entire situation ever evolved and what Joe Pa's thought process was from the beginning to his death.

 

[Franisdaman]

Well, this information pretty much blows out of the water the theory that there were just a select few who participated in the cover-up. Counting these 6 assistant coaches, you're already around a minimum of 10 people with the PSU football program and administration who were aware of the abuse. That has to be just the tip of the iceberg. There's absolutely no way those 6 assistant coaches kept that information completely to themselves. They had to have told spouses and family, at a minimum. Even though this was certainly the kind of information they wouldn't want released publicly, it's not the kind of revelation that 6 coaches are going to keep completely to themselves. I have a hard time believing there weren't less than hundreds of people in Happy Valley aware of the abuse, for decades.

As for the fate of the football program, I'm not sure that the death penalty is the way to go or that kicking PSU out of the Big Ten is necessarily warranted at this point. Sure seems to me that PSU should be held accountable for paying the settlement, though.

yeah, Penn State has paid tens of millions to victims. THE ISSUE NOW is does Penn State get reimbursed from its insurance company?

 

[Shafthawk]

Thank you for taking the time to explain that Shafthawk. I had not assessed it in that context. Very logical and likely completely correct.

Do you think Joe Pa ever revealed a thing to any members of his family? I get the impression he did not.

It makes me wonder how this entire situation ever evolved and what Joe Pa's thought process was from the beginning to his death.

That's a great question Herkmeister. Who lead the cover up, and who just followed along? Gotta believe JoePa was one of the leaders though. Think he would have gotten his way, with either choice he made. So he must have chose to cover it up.

I think he was wise enough to know he couldn't tell most of his family. Loose lips, sink ships.

But, his Son that was on Staff would be the most likely exception to that.

 

[Rustys Dad]

That Sandusky must be one of the cleanest guys I know with as many showers as he takes ...