Snyder Torn ACL
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Yeah I don’t understand the medical hardship thing at all. How many games did Vandenberg play in last year? Snyder plays in one and he’s done? Makes no sense but then again it’s the NCAA.
That is really unfortunate for Brandon. Hopefully he can be back in time to play most of his Senior year.
He can't get a medical redshirt year because he already redshirted a year. To get an extra year he would have had to have missed almost two full years. Vandeberg never redshirted and that is how he got his medical redshirt.
He can't get a medical redshirt year because he already redshirted a year. To get an extra year he would have had to have missed almost two full years. Vandeberg never redshirted and that is how he got his medical redshirt.
Vandeberg played four games (33% rounds down to 30% all before midseason, which fits the criteria) and he didn't redshirt previously, so he still had a fifth year. Same as Butler could've had this year if he didn't come back already. If Snyder gets hurt again early next year, THEN he'd be a likely medical hardship waiver. But he already redshirted, so he'd have to lose parts of two seasons to get a sixth.
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This is correct. The difference is that Snyder has already redshirted (presumably for non-medical reasons). Vandeberg still had the redshirt year available, and he met the 30% criteria. For Snyder to get another year, they would have to apply for the 6th year waiver, for which they would have to show that he lost most of two seasons due to injury.
Does anyone have details on his first surgery? I’m in ACL reconstructions every other day and curious if his surgeon used an autograft (his own hamstring or own patella tendon) or an allograft (donor) tendon? Autograft is the gold standard and most studies show that the tendon is less likely to tear again as opposed to using an allograft. Curious to what was used and how they will attack his revision surgery. Hoping for the best!
This article references a graft from his patella tendon, so guessing that's how they went about it.
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...g-fast-acl-recovery-chad-leistikow/731381001/
I don't think whether or not it was an autograft vs. allograft is protected by HIPPA. Orthopedic surgeons come out all the time and talk about how they performed a surgery on an athlete.
Orthopedic surgeons usually just get the players' autograft on the necessary HIPPA consent form prior to media contact.
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Didn't RB Gore have 2 or 3 ACL tears? I guess Snyder can come back, but he's got to get healthy for rest of his life. This is where NCAA should be stepping in and compensating Football athletes, instead of giving the CEO of the league a $20 million bonus.
I'm don't how it's medically safe to play 6 months after major surgery. Wouldn't he have gotten a medical redshirt this year if he hadn't played at all ? Don't know how the NCAA could count it against you if you waited a full season after surgery. Seems like it would set a bad precedent.
That sucks. I recently tore my ACL, as well. The worst part is not being able to stand up straight or walk correctly, knowing that part of your body is "broken".
The orthopedic surgeons I call on would never have let Snyder play 5 1/2 to 6 months after that procedure. 8 months would have been on the early side even. Most surgeons require 9-12 months before they would clear the athlete. Especially playing Division 1 football in the secondary when planting, cutting, changing directions and stopping on a dime are prevalent every single play. I hate to be critical of his surgeon and the team's physical therapists but they should have never allowed this. I understand that the kid is tough and he was probably pressing to get out on the field but the human body needs time to adjust to the BTB patellar tendon that is now fixated by two screws in the femur and tibia. I don't care if you can pass all of their rigorous functional tests of neuromuscular control directly after surgery. He was cleared before his knee was fully healed and now it (should) cost him a few games next year too. I feel sorry for him.
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I'm sure once he was medically cleared to play, the NCAA will look at it was two separate injuries.
I don't know whether it was an autograft or an allograft but regardless of the graft type, it goes through a phase of degeneration before it remodels itself from the tendon to ligamentous tissue. Regardless of how aggressively one rehabs the regeneration phase takes time. The graft is actually weaker a few months after surgery than the day after surgery. Usually by 6 months the graft strength is close to a normal ACL tensile strength. Doesn't matter how strong your quadriceps and hamstrings are if the graft hasn't regained the tensile strength of a normal ACL. Not questioning our medical staff. Obviously, there is variance in the graft remodeling timeframe and I'm sure he passed all the tests and protocols to return, but 6 months is pretty early for an ACL graft to have remodeled.
Chawkers - how did he lose a whole year of eligibility?
Kirk expects him back by June so he will be ready for next year. Your 8 month logic wouldn't have allowed him to play until the bowl game this year. What am i missing?
Kirk expects him back by June so he will be ready for next year. Your 8 month logic wouldn't have allowed him to play until the bowl game this year. What am i missing?
Does anyone know how or when he tore it?
Would that make a difference to all the medical experts on here? Does it matter if it would have been in the weight room, rehab, running sprint, making a cut in practice, getting hit in a game?
Would that make a difference to all the medical experts on here? Does it matter if it would have been in the weight room, rehab, running sprint, making a cut in practice, getting hit in a game?
No chance he had an allograft to start. UIHC is in the MOON group and Brian knows the data as well as anyone. Now....the big question is what they do for revision? Same side hammy if they did BPTB or go opposite knee BPTB per Shelbourne.
Snyder’s medical redshirt chances have been discussed to exhaustion on here I like 5 threads. He redshirted as a freshman, therefore he has no chance at a medical redshirt from this year. Now if he would miss all of his senior year because of this injury, he could get a sixth year because he missed the majority of two years. Him taking a chance to play this year, he really had nothing to lose eligibility wise because he wasn’t getting this year back even if he mused every game.
If a player blows their knee out their fifth/senior year, they will not get a medical redshirt. If a fourth year player only plays three games or less their senior, they will most likely get a medical redshirt. A player with a previous redshirt has to lose the majority of two years to get a sixth year like Dace Richardson got that time.
Luckily Brandon still has his senior year to play next year and hope he goes out in style.
If a player blows their knee out their fifth/senior year, they will not get a medical redshirt. If a fourth year player only plays three games or less their senior, they will most likely get a medical redshirt. A player with a previous redshirt has to lose the majority of two years to get a sixth year like Dace Richardson got that time.
Luckily Brandon still has his senior year to play next year and hope he goes out in style.
