We already have multiple Navy, Army, Air Force and Marine basis in California. The infrastructure is in place for when the feds leave. Plus, we have multiple ports of entry where more than half of all goods and supplies in this country are shipped through. You've heard of tariffs, right?
So I Have to Ask..........
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Old Buildings and land are relatively cheap.
It’s the planes, ships, and payrolls that would eat through all those billions in a matter of days.
Also pretty sure the US wouldn’t care and just keep the bases they want….what would a new country with no military do about it?
And tarrifs work both ways. New ports can be built.
California produces 460,000 barrels of oil a day and uses 1.8 million.
Granted it would suck to have to look at a border wall every day, but I would support it. Don’t need illegal California immigrants running through my backyard all the time.
If you have seen USC or UCLA play football you would realize that they should fear everyone. Pretty sure Hawaii could overrun them in a fight, after rowing there.
I love a good "California could be their own country" thread. Wait, thats not what OP posted about
Lol... You just showed your ignorance.
Land isn't cheap in California. It's worth literally billions of dollars. Especially along the beach (Coronado, Point Loma, San Diego, Bay Area, Monterey, etc.). We're also home to the world's largest military contractors (Lockheed Martin, Aerojet, Honeybee Robotics, BAE, etc.). So getting access to equipment and weaponry won't be hard. We also have the California National Guard with more than 24,000 service men and women. We have a population of 39 million people with a HUGE tax base.
What's your state have to offer, hillbilly?
Great. So lets level set a little bit first.
While they call it "federal aid" it is merely a redistribution of the money collected from all business and companies across the US. CA also has the largest population AND is almost 25% larger than #2, so it makes sense they would get the most redistribution total dollars.
Your "model states" are ranked 34th, 36th and 28th most dependent states. That compares to CA that is the 48th least dependent based on contribution vs taking? FYI, in this case, #1 is the most dependent and that is a bad thing, so.... 48 is better than 34/36/28.
Keep it up with the silly CA = bad narrative, toss in a Chicago reference (PS, Illinois is 43rd).
The States That Are Most Reliant on Federal Aid
MoneyGeek’s analysis identified the states most reliant on federal funding and found an intriguing correlation between dependency and political leaning.
Good point, federal spending by state is a meaningless statistic. Expressing it as per capita reveals the "takers" quite clearly, and most at the top of the list are GOP/red states. This isn't news, Sharky just hopes to sneak it by as though he's ignorant to the facts. BAU.Great. So lets level set a little bit first.
While they call it "federal aid" it is merely a redistribution of the money collected from all business and companies across the US. CA also has the largest population AND is almost 25% larger than #2, so it makes sense they would get the most redistribution total dollars.
Your "model states" are ranked 34th, 36th and 28th most dependent states. That compares to CA that is the 48th least dependent based on contribution vs taking? FYI, in this case, #1 is the most dependent and that is a bad thing, so.... 48 is better than 34/36/28.
Keep it up with the silly CA = bad narrative, toss in a Chicago reference (PS, Illinois is 43rd).
The States That Are Most Reliant on Federal Aid
MoneyGeek’s analysis identified the states most reliant on federal funding and found an intriguing correlation between dependency and political leaning.www.moneygeek.com
I think only 5.2 million voted for Kamala. Which means out of the 40ish million people that 75% don’t vote or can’t.
We had low turnout. According to the SOS about 10 million people voted in total. A little more than a third as we have nearly 27 million registered voters in cali.
I can throw a rock and hit California.
Word is relatively cheap….and considering if they did succeed, since that is the conversation, and take the land…pretty sure it would be free.
Yes you have a National Guard, who took an oath the US. You ain’t keeping even half of them…the demographic of military members is not the one that is going to stick around.
Having companies that makes stuff doesn’t make it free.
*secede
In addition to the Guard, California leads the nation with more than 160,000 active duty military members. We're more than capable or defending ourselves, patriot.
But thing is, we wouldn't have to. The U.S. would protect us against any foreign invader, just like they with ALL of North America.
You're trying too hard, hillbilly.
Secede then.
Go be your big bad self.
Stupid argument over something that will never happen.
I just find it funny when people make a big deal of the tax difference in collected versus returned, and do not include all the other ways it is returned.
It’s kind of like buying a car with a budget that matches your car payment perfectly.
Might look pretty…but ain’t going to go far without more in the budget for gas.
