So I'm watching Chris Kyle videos on youtube....

[Aegon_Targaryen]

in an effort to understand why we idolize a killer as an American hero. And I will admit, that I just can't find a reason to want to support this man. What I see is someone who killed LOTS of people(usually not seen as a positive), and his adventures being used to help further the gains and needs of rich men up in DC, who simply want to exploit death and mayhem in order to obtain more things. Things as in gas, oil, land, geographic positioning, and most of all power.

What say you all?

 

[BlazinHawk]

You are a fkn nut. How's that?
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[SSG T]

For once I'll agree with Blazin.
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[slieb85]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
in an effort to understand why we idolize a killer as an American hero. And I will admit, that I just can't find a reason to want to support this man. What I see is someone who killed LOTS of people(usually not seen as a positive), and his adventures being used to help further the gains and needs of rich men up in DC, who simply want to exploit death and mayhem in order to obtain more things. Things as in gas, oil, land, geographic positioning, and most of all power.

What say you all?

Pretty spot on.

I don't personally hold him responsible, but the glorification of his acts are pretty ridiculous. I'm sure there have been plenty of other prolific snipers in American military history, yet we don't see others doing this.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by SSG T:
For once I'll agree with Blazin.
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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by slieb85:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
in an effort to understand why we idolize a killer as an American hero. And I will admit, that I just can't find a reason to want to support this man. What I see is someone who killed LOTS of people(usually not seen as a positive), and his adventures being used to help further the gains and needs of rich men up in DC, who simply want to exploit death and mayhem in order to obtain more things. Things as in gas, oil, land, geographic positioning, and most of all power.

What say you all?

Pretty spot on.

I don't personally hold him responsible, but the glorification of his acts are pretty ridiculous. I'm sure there have been plenty of other prolific snipers in American military history, yet we don't see others doing this.

Yes, I definetely wouldn't say he is why we were/are over there, but highlighting him isn't helping anyting. We are glorifying the fact that has killed people? Including women and children? I'm glad some get what I am saying here. Thank you Slieb.

 

[SSG T]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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[SSG T]

Oops, added for link.


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Rich Roll Podcast

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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How does anything you spoke of here, take away from the fact that Chris Kyle was used as propaganda piece?

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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How does anything you spoke of here, take away from the fact that Chris Kyle was used as propaganda piece?

have you even seen the film?

I never saw it as a propaganda piece. I saw it as a film about a guy who went and did what he was asked to do...and did it very well. Then came home and struggled with the things he did, while channeling his emotions into helping other vets who suffered what he did.

But go ahead and keep mischaracterizing him.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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How does anything you spoke of here, take away from the fact that Chris Kyle was used as propaganda piece?

have you even seen the film

I never saw it as a propaganda piece. I saw it as a film about a guy who went and did what he was asked to do...and did it very well. Then came home and struggled with the things he did, while channeling his emotions into helping other vets who suffered what he did.

But go ahead and keep mischaracterizing him.

Were you and him best freinds SEC? IF so, please do tell me how his ho-hum way of talking about killing people, helps America.

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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How does anything you spoke of here, take away from the fact that Chris Kyle was used as propaganda piece?

have you even seen the film

I never saw it as a propaganda piece. I saw it as a film about a guy who went and did what he was asked to do...and did it very well. Then came home and struggled with the things he did, while channeling his emotions into helping other vets who suffered what he did.

But go ahead and keep mischaracterizing him.

Were you and him best freinds SEC? IF so, please do tell me how his ho-hum way of talking about killing people, helps America.

He spoke "matter of fact" about what he did and was unapologetic about doing it. Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do? Why should he apologize for protecting the guys he served with? He was incredibly tortured over not being able to protect all the guys he worked with. But you want him to beg you for forgiveness.

As for your first question. Grow up.

 

[BlazinHawk]

SEC... that is a damn near perfect response...
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[SSG T]

Hey Aegon, go listen to the podcast I linked. The guy who wrote the screenplay a) was pretty far from a right wing, pro military nutcase type and b) spent quite a bit of time with and talking to/communicating with Kyle. He talks about a lot of things that Kyle said directly to him.

He didn't go out looking to make a name for himself, he wasn't trying to get famous, he wasn't trying to portray himself as a hero. He was trying to live his life, deal with everything he'd done and help other servicemen with what they had been through.
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[strummingram]

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:

Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do?

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

 

[cruhawk]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
in an effort to understand why we idolize a killer as an American hero. And I will admit, that I just can't find a reason to want to support this man. What I see is someone who killed LOTS of people(usually not seen as a positive), and his adventures being used to help further the gains and needs of rich men up in DC, who simply want to exploit death and mayhem in order to obtain more things. Things as in gas, oil, land, geographic positioning, and most of all power.

What say you all?

Make sure your passport to our country is up-to-date. You could apply for US citizenship...then you wouldn't need one.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by cruhawk:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
in an effort to understand why we idolize a killer as an American hero. And I will admit, that I just can't find a reason to want to support this man. What I see is someone who killed LOTS of people(usually not seen as a positive), and his adventures being used to help further the gains and needs of rich men up in DC, who simply want to exploit death and mayhem in order to obtain more things. Things as in gas, oil, land, geographic positioning, and most of all power.

What say you all?

Make sure your passport to our country is up-to-date. You could apply for US citizenship...then you wouldn't need one.

Because I'm speaking about the wrongful death of thousands of Americans?!! I'm here trying to make sense of the senseless and all you can say is get your passport ready? You're a weak brain-washed moron who has been led to believe that the killing, bombing, destroying, invading, is protecting your people?

You f'n idiot, how can you even say this with a straight face? Don't your understand that this is all just a bunch of lies? How stupid are you and others to believe that we are on the side of good? Absolutely insane.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.

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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.

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Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

 

[Nat Algren]

Another example of the state having a monopoly. It is rightfully illegal to murder, but, put on a government costume and you have carte blanche to murder wantonly and be honored for it. Yet, there are clowns on here who heap praise on this immoral act. If people stop signing up for these invasions of sovereign lands, there would be no more wars. So yes, I hold the politicians culpable. However, these gladiators are just as much to blame. Suicides are through the roof in the military. These are good people who realize they have been duped by their gov and had trouble dealing with the atrocities they were forced to administer to their fellow man.

In the movie Jack Reacher, played by Tom Cruise, he says there are only 3 reasons someone would join the military. 1) it's the family business (generations before him have entered service). So, they just go because they don't know any better. 2) they have zero job prospects 3) they're psychopathic murderers (they can kill for the enjoyment of it and be rewarded). Not sure where exactly Kyle fits, but, he was not a hero. He did not put his life before others. He sat in a hidden nest where he could not be identified by women and children and killed at will and slept good. In his book, he mentions that the Muslims are subhuman scum (or words to that effect). This is people he has never met. This is the son of a Christian minister. Never mind. I now know where he fits.

 

[Nat Algren]

Originally posted by strummingram:

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:

Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do?

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

Preach on, Strum. The link you provided on Major General Smedley Butler, one of only 19 people to have been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor twice, is appreciated.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.


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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.


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Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

OK flying dragon guy. You sure think you know a lot about me. Nice to see you form impressions from that dragon- imagination mind of yours.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by strummingram:

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:


Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do?

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

You need to take the sock off your head and read some military history. Perhaps replace your sandles with shoes and put down the flowers for a while. As a matter of fact, Venezuela is a good landing spot for you. It has everything you want in a country. GFY.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.


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If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.


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Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

Oh, before I forget, perhaps you should invest in an anger management course. You really seem to need it. And let's have a list of your so-called "deployments" with numbers to back them up. Branch of service, rank, and job title would do nicely too. Age? Put up or shut up dragon boy.

 

[Smalls4IA]

Just do is all a favor and gtfo! You don't deserve the freadoms you're allowed you pimple popping pos.
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[strummingram]

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by strummingram:

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:


Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do?

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

You need to take the sock off your head and read some military history. Perhaps replace your sandles with shoes and put down the flowers for a while. As a matter of fact, Venezuela is a good landing spot for you. It has everything you want in a country. GFY.

So, basically, if I buy-in to your need for, and contentment with, a nationalized indoctrination... then I'll be content with nationalism and the dangers to humanity and life that comes with it? No, thanks! I am envious of your simplicity, but I wouldn't trade my perspective for yours in a hundred lifetimes.

 

[at4iowa]

A guy who wants to remain humble and doesn't want publicity doesn't write a book bragging about how awesome he is. He also doesn't make up stories about shooting looters from the top of the Louisiana Superdome or killing two car jackers. I'll leave it to others to debate about whether or not he was a great soldier, but I will assert that he was not only an attention whore, he was a liar to boot. I've never heard a military veteran brag about killing people. That kind of crap should be kept to yourself. If you want people to think you are the greatest soldier ever, it's best that others make the case for you. That's what a humble person would do.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

Oh, before I forget, perhaps you should invest in an anger management course. You really seem to need it. And let's have a list of your so-called "deployments" with numbers to back them up. Branch of service, rank, and job title would do nicely too. Age? Put up or shut up dragon boy.

You first, of course. Shouldn't be too much to share the same thing you're asking for.

You're not involved in this, so please keep to yourself this time.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

Oh, before I forget, perhaps you should invest in an anger management course. You really seem to need it. And let's have a list of your so-called "deployments" with numbers to back them up. Branch of service, rank, and job title would do nicely too. Age? Put up or shut up dragon boy.

You first, of course. Shouldn't be too much to share the same thing you're asking for.

You know what? I will. Give me a couple of days to get it ready. I have NO problem backing up what I say. I've had my face on here before and I'll do it again.

Now. Call out dragon boy as well.

 

[ClarindaA's]

Chris Kyle was a phenomenal soldier and sniper, very flawed man. End of story
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[Chuck C]

Originally posted by strummingram:

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

This pretty much sums it up.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.




Posted from Rivals Mobile

If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.




Posted from Rivals Mobile

Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

Oh, before I forget, perhaps you should invest in an anger management course. You really seem to need it. And let's have a list of your so-called "deployments" with numbers to back them up. Branch of service, rank, and job title would do nicely too. Age? Put up or shut up dragon boy.

You first, of course. Shouldn't be too much to share the same thing you're asking for.

You know what? I will. Give me a couple of days to get it ready. I have NO problem backing up what I say. I've had my face on here before and I'll do it again.

Now. Call out dragon boy as well.

Why do you need a couple days to answer the 6 questions you asked? The SATs must've taken you YEARS!

So far both of you are a couple chickenshits not delivering for us spectators.
Whoever answers these first wins for biggest pair, and then of course we'll all be able to quantify who knows more about the topic at hand.

List of deployments:
Numbers of said deployments:
Branch of service:
Rank:
Job Title:
Age:

Go!

I was going to add photos for proof as well. But here you go:


List of deployment: Arabian Gulf. USNS Pecos. Counter-terrorism/piracy mission. 15 man team. 6 months
Arabian Gulf. ABOT Oil Terminal Iraqi owned (Google it). Counter-terrorism mission. 30 man team
6 months.
Kuwait. Counter-piracy mission. Multiple platforms. Tactical Supervisor w/ release authority. 15 man
team. 6 months.
Fort Dix. Customs mission. Qualified U.S. Customs Inspector/Battlefield first-aid course. 4 months.
Mission cancelled due to budget cuts.
Branch of Service: U.S. Navy Active 14 years, U.S. Navy Reserves 6 years. Retired.
Job Title: U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer, Master-at-Arms. 6 gold stripes 25 total years good service, Honorable discharge.
Age: 52

 

[IMCC965]

ABOT oil terminal.

USNS PECOS

This post was edited on 4/4 1:57 PM by IMCC965

Link

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by SSG T:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by SSG T:

For once I'll agree with Blazin.




Posted from Rivals Mobile

If you really are a staff sergeant, I would hope you wouldn't.

Well, I'm actually a Master Sergeant. And yes, I do. Regardless of what you think of the politics that put him there, having the attitude that he was nothing but a killer and a piece of crap is about as wrong as you can be.

I highly suggest you go listen to the linked podcast. The interviewer is Rich Roll and he's talking to Jason Hall, the guy who wrote the screenplay for American Sniper. He gets into how Kyle had very little interest in telling his story and making a name for himself. His concern was trying to live his life and help guys that needed help. He did what he did to keep his fellow servicemen alive, not to be a hero. His big concern post-Navy career was helping guys that were suffering with PTSD, much as he did.

If you had any clue whatsoever why guys like him do what they do, your opinion would be far different. Unless, of course, you are as big of a piece of shit as you think he was.

Keep in mind, I agree very little with Blazin, in fact I don't recall ever agreeing with him. However, I get extremely touchy when people go out their way to make comments about servicemen when they have no clue what they are talking about. I know very few Soldiers (or Sailors, Airmen or Marines) who want to just blindly go into combat and go kill, just because. Most people get there and have one desire, to keep themselves and their buddies alive. Politics goes out the window.




Posted from Rivals Mobile

Very well said. I'd like to add that trying to explain what it's like being deployed and doing a job 99% of the population refuses/won't/can't do, is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. I'd say it's pretty much a waste of time and there's nothing to gain trying to make this guy understand. Honor, Courage, and Commitment are morals a lot of people don't understand. Also, there are bad/evil people in the world and there are men of honor like Chris Kyle that put themselves in harms way to protect us.

Don't even talk as if you're a hero IMCC. You're a moron, and that has alwas been clear. You're likely nothing more than a Iowa National Guard wannabe, who MAYBE got deployed one tour and did nothing more than deal in supply, whilst trying to convince people you were a real soldier. I guarantee you that I've been deployed longer and in much dangerous areas than you could even dream.
Actually come to think of it, you're Navy aren't you? Shut up. Shut the F up. You boat riding moron, who likely was nothing more than a deck swabber. BM at best. Chris Kyle was a sociopathic liar, and he lied about small things such as the Ventura altercation.
You speak as if you're GI Joe IMCC, and all you are is a false narrative of your own self. Shut up.

And as for you SSGT, YOU should know better, and understand what I'm saying. If you are really a Master Sergeant, you should get it. You also explained that Kyle was an advocate of helping people with PTSD. Why do you think someone like him would want to do that?
And Blazin can also shut up. Blazin is the epitome of stupid american. He blindly follows and he is only good at that one thing. Blazin is the type of guy whom a guy like Hitler would absolutely love. Pathetic.

Oh, before I forget, perhaps you should invest in an anger management course. You really seem to need it. And let's have a list of your so-called "deployments" with numbers to back them up. Branch of service, rank, and job title would do nicely too. Age? Put up or shut up dragon boy.

You first, of course. Shouldn't be too much to share the same thing you're asking for.

You know what? I will. Give me a couple of days to get it ready. I have NO problem backing up what I say. I've had my face on here before and I'll do it again.

Now. Call out dragon boy as well.

Why do you need a couple days to answer the 6 questions you asked? The SATs must've taken you YEARS!

So far both of you are a couple chickenshits not delivering for us spectators.
Whoever answers these first wins for biggest pair, and then of course we'll all be able to quantify who knows more about the topic at hand.

List of deployments:
Numbers of said deployments:
Branch of service:
Rank:
Job Title:
Age:

Go!

I was going to add photos for proof as well. But here you go:


List of deployment: Arabian Gulf. USNS Pecos. Counter-terrorism/piracy mission. 15 man team. 6 months
Arabian Gulf. ABOT Oil Terminal Iraqi owned (Google it). Counter-terrorism mission. 30 man team
6 months.
Kuwait. Counter-piracy mission. Multiple platforms. Tactical Supervisor w/ release authority. 15 man
team. 6 months.
Fort Dix. Customs mission. Qualified U.S. Customs Inspector/Battlefield first-aid course. 4 months.
Mission cancelled due to budget cuts.
Branch of Service: U.S. Navy Active 14 years, U.S. Navy Reserves 6 years. Retired.
Job Title: U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer, Master-at-Arms. 6 gold stripes 25 total years good service, Honorable discharge.
Age: 52

Good for you, and yet you still want more war for others as well? Also my current position makes in impossible to speak specifics. At this current time I have 12 years in, and I'm currently working at Scott AFB, for Transcom. 5 deployments overseas.
1 deployment I can mention is when I was out of Bahrain, working the oil field patrols.

Now that we've gotten past the formalities, please explain why you support our wars over thee, and blindly follow the tyrants that send people over thereto die?

 

[IMCC965]

Kuwait Naval Base/Camp Patriot

 

[strummingram]

The sad thing about people like IMCC, is they fully believe that they are "defending" the USA. They think they are protecting our freedoms and every other jingoistic line that enables them to be pawns for wealthy business interest that will put them and their fellow military personnel in harm's way over and over to attain and acquire, by force, the resources, power and influence that THEY want for themselves. It's pathetic.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by strummingram:
The sad thing about people like IMCC, is they fully believe that they are "defending" the USA. They think they are protecting our freedoms and every other jingoistic line that enables them to be pawns for wealthy business interest that will put them and their fellow military personnel in harm's way over and over to attain and acquire, by force, the resources, power and influence that THEY want for themselves. It's pathetic.

I don't hate guys like him, I just don't understand how they can be so naive about something they are directly attached to. What makes them think, they have any right to be over in anothers country, and telling them what to do? Just because they think they are defending freedoms? By taking away someone elses?

I don't get it, and it's a problem.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by strummingram:
The sad thing about people like IMCC, is they fully believe that they are "defending" the USA. They think they are protecting our freedoms and every other jingoistic line that enables them to be pawns for wealthy business interest that will put them and their fellow military personnel in harm's way over and over to attain and acquire, by force, the resources, power and influence that THEY want for themselves. It's pathetic.

Yeeaaaaaahhhhh. I never remember filling up barrels of oil and loading them onto a ship or aircraft for exploitation.

Fact is, you probably got turned down by the Army for enlistment because you suck and now you're pissed off.

It's OK. Not everyone makes it.

 

[IMCC965]

"Good for you, and yet you still want more war for others as well? Also my current position makes in impossible to speak specifics. At this current time I have 12 years in, and I'm currently working at Scott AFB, for Transcom. 5 deployments overseas.
1 deployment I can mention is when I was out of Bahrain, working the oil field patrols.

Now that we've gotten past the formalities, please explain why you support our wars over thee, and blindly follow the tyrants that send people over thereto die?"

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I'm going to take you for your word on this, however, if you feel so strongly about your position, why on earth do you stay in the military? How do you live with yourself wearing the uniform and feeling this way on a daily basis?

Do you have too much time in to give it up? Are you too old to give it up?

Specifics.

 

[cruhawk]

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by strummingram:

Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:



Why should he apologize for doing what he was ordered to do?

It amazes me how people can allow themselves to become so indoctrinated. When you allow the recognition of your own better judgment to be yelled out of you, you are in serious trouble. What a lame-ass excuse! Isn't that what people joke about SS leaders in Nazi Germany saying "I was just following orders" when they gassed people? You're claiming that you sacrifice the direct accountability for YOUR ACTIONS because you were following orders? You gotta be f*cking kidding me! I don't trust ANY human being on this planet enough to allow that kind of superiority over me. No one should! They could offer me a billion dollars to "serve" in that military and I would tell them to shove each dollar up their asses sideways. American Military has not "defended" THIS country in about 70 years. American Military personnel have been whored-out all over the world to exploit resources and kill as many people that got in the way. Truth be told, they did it before World War II, too.

You need to take the sock off your head and read some military history. Perhaps replace your sandles with shoes and put down the flowers for a while. As a matter of fact, Venezuela is a good landing spot for you. It has everything you want in a country. GFY.

+.....well at least 1.