So. Just HOW good are Day and Franklin

[kceasthawk]

Were always discussing whether this or that coach is better. I've stated that the top schools coaches MAY get a bit more credit then they actually deserve. Here's a fun fact from todays "The B1G Show". Why is todays game between OSU and PSU so important for both coaches? Ryan Day is 2-7 vs top 5 teams in his tenure at OSU, while Franklin is 1-13 against the top 5 in his time in Happy Valley. Thats 2-7 and 1-13. Combined they are 3-20 against top 5 teams. So would Kirk or Bret or Fitz REALLY be any worse at those schools? Is it X's and O's or Jimmies and Joes?

 

[uihawk82]

Were always discussing whether this or that coach is better. I've stated that the top schools coaches MAY get a bit more credit then they actually deserve. Here's a fun fact from todays "The B1G Show". Why is todays game between OSU and PSU so important for both coaches? Ryan Day is 2-7 vs top 5 teams in his tenure at OSU, while Franklin is 1-13 against the top 5 in his time in Happy Valley. Thats 2-7 and 1-13. Combined they are 3-20 against top 5 teams. So would Kirk or Bret or Fitz REALLY be any worse at those schools? Is it X's and O's or Jimmies and Joes?

It is mostly Jimmies and Joes at the top 5-10 blue bloods because they get most every great player in their state and PA and Ohio have large populations.

I really think Kirk or Bret or Fitz would have won big time at those schools. Kirk's style run the ball, protect the ball, use a very good pro style passing game with maybe more emphasis on defense and special teams would have been great at Ohio St over 25 years. The question is would Ohio St fans wait for 5 or more years between nattys? I think Day's seasons are numbered at OSU, Penn ST would probably be stupid to get rid of Franklin right now.

Riley at USC is definitely hot seat as his supposed emphasis on defense hasnt really panned out, better but not great.

 

[kceasthawk]

I agree totally, and thats always been my point. I've always thought the fact that they get "the pick of the litter" in recruiting with minimal effort, is a much bigger factor then them being superior coaches from a X's ad O's standpoint. Riley is another guy who people like to throw out there as some kind of genius. I'd bet his record against the top 5-10 is no better the these two.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Were always discussing whether this or that coach is better. I've stated that the top schools coaches MAY get a bit more credit then they actually deserve. Here's a fun fact from todays "The B1G Show". Why is todays game between OSU and PSU so important for both coaches? Ryan Day is 2-7 vs top 5 teams in his tenure at OSU, while Franklin is 1-13 against the top 5 in his time in Happy Valley. Thats 2-7 and 1-13. Combined they are 3-20 against top 5 teams. So would Kirk or Bret or Fitz REALLY be any worse at those schools? Is it X's and O's or Jimmies and Joes?