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So let me get this straight

Trump's deal with Putin seems to be to let Russia keep all the land they stole from Ukraine and then make sure Ukraine can't be part of NATO?

How about the rapist go fvck himself on this.
I was just going to start a thread on this and you are right, trump is shiting on Ukraine and Nato, Trump the German is a facist and loves Putin not because he is a communist but a dictator. Trump wants to be a Putin which is why he wants help Putin.

I think your post will get more traction with a title that includes Trump crapping on Ukraine
 
You forgot the part that of the land that Ukraine keeps, the U.S. will have mineral and oil rights to “pay back” what they owe.
What the hell does Ukraine owe us? Ukraine is the US's projection of democracy in the area. And all reporting states that most of the $172 billion in aid we have given to them was spent in the US to buy weapsons. That money never crossed out of our borders.

Get real
 
You can see what Trump's plan is. Create an alliance with Russia and China and try to take over the rest of the world. Putin is taking over land. Trump is trying to take over land. America is now the bad guys.
And recent polling is that about 60+% of americans dont want us grabbing land etc.

Trump is going to let china take taiwan and close off a lot of the electronics and chips we buy. that would be crippling
 
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What the hell does Ukraine owe us? Ukraine is the US's projection of democracy in the area. And all reporting states that most of the $172 billion in aid we have given to them was spent in the US to buy weapsons. That money never crossed out of our borders.

Get real

And, unless Trump wants to nationalize an industry (like mining or oil) and in a foreign country, the U.S. won’t see a penny of it.

Now, this doesn’t mean that a bunch of Trump’s cronies in these industries won’t profit from it. Just like his proposal about Gaza. The U.S. taxpayer won’t profit from these larks.
 
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Trump's deal with Putin seems to be to let Russia keep all the land they stole from Ukraine and then make sure Ukraine can't be part of NATO?

How about the rapist go fvck himself on this.

I’d also like Ukraine to pay back the $200+ billion that Joe gave them.

One could argue that Joe didn’t what he was doing.
 
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Russia shouldn't have invaded. In a perfect world they would have been defeated and expelled from Ukrainian land. But this is reality. If part of deal to end the bloodshed involves Russia keeping the land in the east where the population is largely pro Russian, then it needs to be strongly considered.
 
And recent polling is that about 60+% of americans dont want us grabbing land etc.

Trump is going to let china take taiwan and close off a lot of the electronics and chips we buy. that would be crippling
Trump isn't interested in helping America. He sees the insane wealth dictators like Putin have and wants to join him. Vlad doesn't care if his people die and suffer. He is worth an estimated $200 billion. Trump has only 1% of that. There is no way this isn't factoring into Trump's corrupt decisions.
 
Russia shouldn't have invaded. In a perfect world they would have been defeated and expelled from Ukrainian land. But this is reality. If part of deal to end the bloodshed involves Russia keeping the land in the east where the population is largely pro Russian, then it needs to be strongly considered.
Has a day ever passed when you didn’t gargle wannabe dictator balls?
 
Russia shouldn't have invaded. In a perfect world they would have been defeated and expelled from Ukrainian land. But this is reality. If part of deal to end the bloodshed involves Russia keeping the land in the east where the population is largely pro Russian, then it needs to be strongly considered.
Putin has lost nearly a million troops. His military has been reduced to a fraction of its former size. Reality is that Russia is beat up and weak. It's why Vlad desperately needs Trump to throw his weight behind the Kremlin.
 
Putin has lost nearly a million troops. His military has been reduced to a fraction of its former size. Reality is that Russia is beat up and weak. It's why Vlad desperately needs Trump to throw his weight behind the Kremlin.
Russia is a dead country in 3 decades. Vietnam war was basically meaningless. Guarantee you that Ukraine has lost similar number and 25 percent of people have left and will never return.

What would be left?

Russia isn't grabbing Europe.
 
Putin has lost nearly a million troops. His military has been reduced to a fraction of its former size. Reality is that Russia is beat up and weak. It's why Vlad desperately needs Trump to throw his weight behind the Kremlin.

Not capitulation or supporting a modern day Neville Chamberlain.

It's a stalemate and a meat grinder.

Enough of this already.
 
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Russia is a dead country in 3 decades. Vietnam war was basically meaningless. Guarantee you that Ukraine has lost similar number and 25 percent of people have left and will never return.

What would be left?

Russia isn't grabbing Europe.
China has been bankrolling Russia this whole war. If Trump backs Russia, too, why wouldn't China push more of their weight behind Putin?

Trump clearly has Vlad's back. He will let them do whatever they want. So why wouldn't China use Russia as their thugs to destabilize Europe and give them more control?
 
Vlad is on his last legs. If we backed Ukraine instead of Russia, Vlad would be forced to give up. They would lose the support of China eventually and have no choice but to retreat. But no. Trump wants Putin to win. He wants to give China a reason to keep helping them.

You're living in an alternate world.
 
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Putin has lost nearly a million troops. His military has been reduced to a fraction of its former size. Reality is that Russia is beat up and weak. It's why Vlad desperately needs Trump to throw his weight behind the Kremlin.

The war is over. The U.S. is done writing checks.
 
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What the hell does Ukraine owe us? Ukraine is the US's projection of democracy in the area. And all reporting states that most of the $172 billion in aid we have given to them was spent in the US to buy weapsons. That money never crossed out of our borders.

Get real
We get a lot out of it whether people approve or not. We get to test weapons and no loss of life for us.
 
China has been bankrolling Russia this whole war. If Trump backs Russia, too, why wouldn't China push more of their weight behind Putin?

Trump clearly has Vlad's back. He will let them do whatever they want. So why wouldn't China use Russia as their thugs to destabilize Europe and give them more control?
There is a Ukrainian joke my friends like to say. Some day there will be big trouble on the Swedish-Chinese border. Maybe Trump will grab Kursk when he takes Greenland.
 
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