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So the D's want to shut down the government....

Because Trump and Elan want to reduce government spending.

It will be interesting to see how this goes.
FAFO! There's a lot of folks who have had enough of this shit and are ready to open a can of whoop ass on these marxist obstructionists! Because you're elected, don't think you're untouchable...."take it to the streets" at your own ****ing peril, you milquetoast cocksuckers!!
 
LOL. Everyone should want to shut this down.

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Via budget reconciliation.

My concern is you have some "crazies" in the house and a handful of opportunists in the senate.

I expect a few Ds will cross as well.
So, then what is the solution? Just bow down and kiss Elon and Trump’s asses? If they can’t get it done via reconciliation, they probably have no business getting it done.
 
The problem for Dems is that even if they are willing to shut the government down, the Rs just don't care. It isn't the rich and powerful R donors who will be hurt.

Some of the new R base of MAGA workers may be hurt, but it's not as though Trump ever actually cared about them.
 
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The problem for Dems is that even if they are willing to shut the government down, the Rs just don't care. It isn't the rich and powerful R donors who will be hurt.

Some of the new R base of MAGA workers may be hurt, but it's not as though Trump ever actually cared about them.
Republicans can't pass this by themselves because they're too dysfunctional. Ultimately, they'll vote to increase spending and trump will sign it.

Guaranteed.
 
The problem for Dems is that even if they are willing to shut the government down, the Rs just don't care. It isn't the rich and powerful R donors who will be hurt.

Some of the new R base of MAGA workers may be hurt, but it's not as though Trump ever actually cared about them.
Shut it down, then we'll get something done.
 
So, then what is the solution? Just bow down and kiss Elon and Trump’s asses? If they can’t get it done via reconciliation, they probably have no business getting it done.

I believe a shutdown wouldn't hurt the Republicans this go around. So much waste, fraud and abuse is being exposed that people are likely supportive of a pause.

And here's something for you Democrats to chew on. The federal workforce leans left. They don't recieve pay during a shutdown. Non essential employees stay at home during the shutdown. In the past those people that stayed at home were still paid after the fact. It's possible that as part of negotiations to open the government back up, they will not agree to back pay.
 
I believe a shutdown wouldn't hurt the Republicans this go around. So much waste, fraud and abuse is being exposed that people are likely supportive of a pause.

And here's something for you Democrats to chew on. The federal workforce leans left. They don't recieve pay during a shutdown. Non essential employees stay at home during the shutdown. In the past those people that stayed at home were still paid after the fact. It's possible that as part of negotiations to open the government back up, they will not agree to back pay.

Please do shut down the government with
Control of every single lawmaking entity then refuse to pay back pay. I’d love to see the fallout from that.
 
I believe a shutdown wouldn't hurt the Republicans this go around. So much waste, fraud and abuse is being exposed that people are likely supportive of a pause.

And here's something for you Democrats to chew on. The federal workforce leans left. They don't recieve pay during a shutdown. Non essential employees stay at home during the shutdown. In the past those people that stayed at home were still paid after the fact. It's possible that as part of negotiations to open the government back up, they will not agree to back pay.
We’ll see. In midterms, though when the economy is in the shitter it will probably be a very different story/
 
Please do shut down the government with
Control of every single lawmaking entity then refuse to pay back pay. I’d love to see the fallout from that.

If you're not working, you shouldn't be paid. Democrats need to remember that during negotiations. On this issue, and in the current environment, I wouldn't play chicken with this administration.
 
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The problem for Dems is that even if they are willing to shut the government down, the Rs just don't care. It isn't the rich and powerful R donors who will be hurt.

Some of the new R base of MAGA workers may be hurt, but it's not as though Trump ever actually cared about them.
Trump is buttering everyone's bread, just in different orders. The new MAGA working class blood got their hot item ticket punched almost immediately with the ICE deportations, Gulf of America type victory dance material, executive order Blitzkrieg, and no soup for you trans. That should satisfy them for awhile.

Now he'll butter the top 5%er bread, showering us with tax loop holes and investment incentives. I'll be in this line with bread in hand, but I have to admit I also enjoyed the bones that were thrown to MAGA working class. It's like having your cake and eating it too!

Down your throats. Keep eliminating government waste. Keep your foot on the throats of anyone who opposes ICE deportations. Keep gutting anything DEI. Keep men out of women's sports and restrooms. Drill baby drill. Make countries pay for our military. And keep coming up with new pre-snap motion formations so the Dems have so much to bitch about that their pathetic, whining, faces in the media has their messages diluted as much as possible.

Hey ho, Let's go!

 
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Trump is buttering everyone's bread, just in different orders. The new MAGA working class blood got their hot item ticket punched almost immediately with the ICE deportations, Gulf of America type victory dance material, executive order Blitzkrieg, and no soup for you trans. That should satisfy them for awhile.

Now he'll butter the top 5%er bread, showering us with tax loop holes and investment incentives. I'll be in this line with bread in hand, but I have to admit I also enjoyed the bones that were thrown to MAGA working class. It's like having your cake and eating it too!

Down your throats. Keep eliminating government waste. Keep your foot on the throats of anyone who opposes ICE deportations. Keep gutting anything DEI. Keep men out of women's sports and restrooms. Drill baby drill. Make countries pay for our military. And keep coming up with new pre-snap motion formations so the Dems have so much to bitch about that their pathetic, whining, faces in the media has their messages diluted as much as possible.

Hey ho, Let's go!

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I’ll telll you why. It is damn difficult make money in this world. And when you do you are told you don’t pay your fair share taxes. Man, I hate that phrase. You are told you are selfish for wanting to keep it.
There are people that assume you cheated to make. People despise the people that make it in this world.
This country used to have heroes that people admired because they did well in life. Now successful people are demonized.
 
Because Trump and Elan want to reduce government spending.

It will be interesting to see how this goes.
Wait now you care if the government gets shut down?

Trump and Musk are not following the rule of law. The only leverage they have is shutting down the government
 
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