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So Willie Taggart gets 30-mill for 6 years....

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After guiding his team to a 7-5 record in a down Pac 10....This is where we are at. Coach goes to a "destination job" and leaves after ONE year and do we really know how good he is or isn't?

Sure he lost his starting QB...But that QB didn't give up 33 to Wazzooo, 49 to Stanford, 31 to UCLA, 41 to Utah OR 38 to the Huskies....

Quite frankly I like him but honestly its hard to fathom. Somebody should write an article on all the times Coach A, B, C, D...Z was "THE Coach" only to be more of the same.
 
Teams in the search mode seem desperate right now.


Hell they probably should be.....look at the MONEY they are throwing around. Everyone wants to bitch about KF but honestly Paul Rhoads got 2 mill for several years to lose his arse....its insane.

There is ONE great coach, Nick Saban...a couple other really good ones and then about 10 or 15 KF's, that's it.
 
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I'm not saying that Taggart was a knockout hire or not... but it seems awful naive to judge a coach coming to a new team with players left to him by a coach who did so bad he got fired, all the while losing the starting QB in game 5 of the season(which they were 4-1)...
 
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I'm not saying that Taggart was a knockout hire or not... but it seems awful naive to judge a coach coming to a new team with players left to him by a coach who did so bad he got fired, all the while losing the starting QB in game 5 of the season(which they were 4-1)...


Well, can't the reverse be true...I know Brady Hoke recruited quite well at UM and its possible JH was a beneficiary of that. Oregon also recruits quite well....
 
Well, can't the reverse be true...I know Brady Hoke recruited quite well at UM and its possible JH was a beneficiary of that. Oregon also recruits quite well....
well something must have gone wrong if they only won 4 games last year....
 
Hell they probably should be.....look at the MONEY they are throwing around. Everyone wants to bitch about KF but honestly Paul Rhoads got 2 mill for several years to lose his arse....its insane.

There is ONE great coach, Nick Saban...a couple other really good ones and then about 10 or 15 KF's, that's it.
Yeah saban was an amazing coach before he went down south.
Oh wait.....
 
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He is a Harbaugh disciple, and a Florida native. His ability to recruit and bring an innovative offensive mind certainly made him a hot commodity. He is the first black head coach at each of his stops (WKU, South FL, Oregon and FSU).

As I said I'm a fan but these coaching salaries are still wildly skewed
 
After guiding his team to a 7-5 record in a down Pac 10....This is where we are at. Coach goes to a "destination job" and leaves after ONE year and do we really know how good he is or isn't?

Sure he lost his starting QB...But that QB didn't give up 33 to Wazzooo, 49 to Stanford, 31 to UCLA, 41 to Utah OR 38 to the Huskies....

Quite frankly I like him but honestly its hard to fathom. Somebody should write an article on all the times Coach A, B, C, D...Z was "THE Coach" only to be more of the same.
Totally agree instead of firing all these coaches get rid of the inept ADs and Administrators that sign off on the ridiculous salaries now being paid.
 
The crazy coaching carousel is just a component of the "instant gratification" world we live in. One young coach wins 8 to 10 games at an average program or smaller college, and all of a sudden he is on the speed dial of every AD looking for a coach (see Campbell, Fleck).

Contracts mean nothing in today's world of "what have you done for me lately" culture. With millions of dollars being tossed around on coaching contracts/buyout, the contracts mean nothing more than the paper they are printed on.

College football is a big-time business (Mr. Obvious, right?). But I don't think the overall game is headed in a healthy direction. Coaches getting fired after a couple of seasons, coaches jumping ship after one year in town, former coaches being brought back as ADs, (potential) coaches being run out of town by a social media movement ...

But hey, it's all about the student athlete, right?

I love college football ... On the flip side, I think it's headed in an unhealthy direction. Mega facility investments, major money spent on coaching contracts/buyouts ... Little to no loyalty from ADs, coaches, players (commits, de-commits, transfers)... Crazy money being spent on television rights ... recruits committing and de-committing like you or I change lunch plans ...

I love the game ... it just seems like with each passing years it gets a little bit crazier behind the scenes. It leads one to wonder what the college landscape will look like in 10 years (heck, even in five years) ... For starters, let's stop calling them "student athletes" and instead call them "athletes who also happen to be students."
 
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The crazy coaching carousel is just a component of the "instant gratification" world we live in. One young coach wins 8 to 10 games at an average program or smaller college, and all of a sudden he is on the speed dial of every AD looking for a coach (see Campbell, Fleck).

Contracts mean nothing in today's world of "what have you done for me lately" culture. With millions of dollars being tossed around on coaching contracts/buyout, the contracts mean nothing more than the paper they are printed on.

College football is a big-time business (Mr. Obvious, right?). But I don't think the overall game is headed in a healthy direction. Coaches getting fired after a couple of seasons, coaches jumping ship after one year in town, former coaches being brought back as ADs, (potential) coaches being run out of town by a social media movement ...

But hey, it's all about the student athlete, right?

I love college football ... On the flip side, I think it's headed in an unhealthy direction. Mega facility investments, major money spent on coaching contracts/buyouts ... Little to no loyalty from ADs, coaches, players (commits, de-commits, transfers)... Crazy money being spent on television rights ... recruits committing and de-committing like you or I change lunch plans ...

I love the game ... it just seems like with each passing years it gets a little bit crazier behind the scenes. It leads one to wonder what the college landscape will look like in 10 years (heck, even in five years) ... For starters, let's stop calling them "student athletes" and instead call them "athletes who also happen to be students."


Well written and apropos....
 
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Here's what shocks me. A Seminole fan (colorado noles) posting on a Hawk board ... how does that happen?
 
He was .500 in the NFL where talent is pretty much equal. Saban IS a great recruiter and great CEO.
Honestly I would consider being .500 in the NFL good considering that’s what you gets you in the playoffs. Also talent is similar but he didn’t have a quarterback and if you don’t have a quarterback it makes exponentially harder to win.
 
Honestly I would consider being .500 in the NFL good considering that’s what you gets you in the playoffs. Also talent is similar but he didn’t have a quarterback and if you don’t have a quarterback it makes exponentially harder to win.
Ok. How about Dantonio has a significantly better win % at MSU than Saban. I understand Saban is a hall of fame coach. That's what having by far the best players and good coaching gets you.
 
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The crazy coaching carousel is just a component of the "instant gratification" world we live in. One young coach wins 8 to 10 games at an average program or smaller college, and all of a sudden he is on the speed dial of every AD looking for a coach (see Campbell, Fleck).

Contracts mean nothing in today's world of "what have you done for me lately" culture. With millions of dollars being tossed around on coaching contracts/buyout, the contracts mean nothing more than the paper they are printed on.

College football is a big-time business (Mr. Obvious, right?). But I don't think the overall game is headed in a healthy direction. Coaches getting fired after a couple of seasons, coaches jumping ship after one year in town, former coaches being brought back as ADs, (potential) coaches being run out of town by a social media movement ...

But hey, it's all about the student athlete, right?

I love college football ... On the flip side, I think it's headed in an unhealthy direction. Mega facility investments, major money spent on coaching contracts/buyouts ... Little to no loyalty from ADs, coaches, players (commits, de-commits, transfers)... Crazy money being spent on television rights ... recruits committing and de-committing like you or I change lunch plans ...

I love the game ... it just seems like with each passing years it gets a little bit crazier behind the scenes. It leads one to wonder what the college landscape will look like in 10 years (heck, even in five years) ... For starters, let's stop calling them "student athletes" and instead call them "athletes who also happen to be students."

Well said. I don't know why, but it makes me think of this event in world history.


Tulip mania
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A tulip, known as "the Viceroy" (viseroij), displayed in the 1637 Dutch catalog Verzameling van een Meenigte Tulipaanen. Its bulb was offered for sale between 3,000 and 4,200 guilders (florins) depending on size (aase). A skilled craftsworker at the time earned about 300 guilders a year.[1]
Tulip mania, tulipmania, or tulipomania (Dutch names include: tulpenmanie, tulpomanie, tulpenwoede, tulpengekte and bollengekte) was a period in the Dutch Golden Age during which contract prices for some bulbs of the recently introduced and fashionable tulip reached extraordinarily high levels and then dramatically collapsed in February 1637.[2] It is generally considered the first recorded speculative bubble (or economic bubble);[3] although some researchers have noted that the Kipper- und Wipperzeit (literally Tipper and See-saw) episode in 1619–1622, a Europe-wide chain of debasement of the metal content of coins to fund warfare, featured mania-like similarities to a bubble.[4] In many ways, the tulip mania was more of a hitherto unknown socio-economic phenomenon than a significant economic crisis (or financial crisis). And historically, it had no critical influence on the prosperity of the Dutch Republic, the world's leading economic and financial power in the 17th century. The term "tulip mania" is now often used metaphorically to refer to any large economic bubble when asset prices deviate from intrinsic values.[5]

In Europe, formal futures markets appeared in the Dutch Republic during the 17th century. Among the most notable centered on the tulip market, at the height of Tulipmania.[6][7] At the peak of tulip mania, in February 1637, some single tulip bulbs sold for more than 10 times the annual income of a skilled craftsworker. Research is difficult because of the limited economic data from the 1630s—much of which come from biased and very speculative sources.[8][9] Some modern economists have proposed rational explanations, rather than a speculative mania, for the rise and fall in prices. For example, other flowers, such as the hyacinth, also had high initial prices at the time of their introduction, which immediately fell. The high asset prices may also have been driven by expectations of a parliamentary decree that contracts could be voided for a small cost—thus lowering the risk to buyers.

The 1637 event was popularized in 1841 by the book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, written by British journalist Charles Mackay. At one point 12 acres (5 ha) of land were offered for a Semper Augustus bulb.[10] Mackay claims that many such investors were ruined by the fall in prices, and Dutch commerce suffered a severe shock. Although Mackay's book is a classic, his account is contested. Many modern scholars feel that the mania was not as extraordinary as Mackay described and argue that not enough price data are available to prove that a tulip bulb bubble actually occurred.[11][12][13]
 
After guiding his team to a 7-5 record in a down Pac 10....This is where we are at. Coach goes to a "destination job" and leaves after ONE year and do we really know how good he is or isn't?

Sure he lost his starting QB...But that QB didn't give up 33 to Wazzooo, 49 to Stanford, 31 to UCLA, 41 to Utah OR 38 to the Huskies....

Quite frankly I like him but honestly its hard to fathom. Somebody should write an article on all the times Coach A, B, C, D...Z was "THE Coach" only to be more of the same.
He's making too much money, and hasn't done anything to earn it, and that bothers me. Fire him and his whole staff!!!
 
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Hell they probably should be.....look at the MONEY they are throwing around. Everyone wants to bitch about KF but honestly Paul Rhoads got 2 mill for several years to lose his arse....its insane.

There is ONE great coach, Nick Saban...a couple other really good ones and then about 10 or 15 KF's, that's it.

Id say theres way more than 10-15 KFs.

Maybe not as a person but results wise, way more.
 
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Id say theres way more than 10-15 KFs.

Maybe not as a person but results wise, way more.


I had to back track you to find out what kind of fan you are, now that I know....

Name them....name 25 guys that are as good or better, then I'll tell you the kind of whiny petty crap their fans say about them....I'll wait.
 
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