So you care about the troops....?

[Vroom_C14]

Used sparingly, troops help to create freedom. Used too aggressively, like in Iraq, and troops help to create ISIS. Life is a balancing act.

Would you be more supportive of citizens forced into defending your ass hat vs volunteers that do so? Those volunteers have more desire to give/retain you your freedom than those forced to. Your words thus far in this put you as an entitled ass hat that would flee if forced to defend. I have no more time for your selfish, entitled comments.

Thanks for playing.

 

[dbq hawk 32]

Why should I kiss someone's ass for helping to create ISIS?

I don't know, you rim Obama every chance you get.

 

[Vroom_C14]

But, I thought we're fighting them over 'there', so we don't have to fight them 'here'? You know, so guys like Huey can say what they want for freedom sake. Then he does and you want to deport him. Are you okay with this only if everyone supports your view?

And since you brought up the freedoms we had issue, I have a couple of things I'd like to address. Before our Presidents (Bush 1 & 2) lied about sending our troops to war in Iraq, we had a Bill of Rights. Sadly, the 4th and 5th amendments have been tossed aside and they now claim the right to assasinate Americans by drone endorsed by a secret panel. Bring the troops home and defend us from our politicians. You reek of jingoism. Saudi Arabia lops off more heads, nor do they allow their women to drive, but, they're our best buds in the ME. And they bank ISIS.

To the OP, I would suggest everyone stop signing up to fight these illegal wars sold to the public when they knew they were lies. Maybe Jack Reacher was right when he said there were 4 reasons why people enlist. 1) it's the family trade 2) their job options suck 3) they're psychotics who enjoy killing and can get paid for it 4) I forget 4, it wasn't an endorsement.

We were fighting them over there, but the current administration shat down their legs and now we have isis and the like and their insertion in the US. GEnerals have stated had troops remaind in place isis would not be, since Obama 1 and 2 removed the troops and drew disappearing lines that the world laughed at.

Reasons people don't sign up, they want someone to fight their battles, they are too chicken shit to defend others, they can't put others before themselves.

Honestly I know several that didn't join that are worse off than I and those I served with, I have a very good civilian job based off my MOS.

Please provide proof of drones killing Americans - aside from your tin hat reception.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Freedom is not "created" by people killing each other, or fighting each other.

Freedom is created by a collective core belief that no one is superior to you and you're not superior to them. Beliefs lead to behaviors, not the other way around.

Tell EU that freedom is not created by killing. Do you think that region would have been "free" had the Germans not been defeated?

 

[strummingram]

Tell EU that freedom is not created by killing. Do you think that region would have been "free" had the Germans not been defeated?

It goes much deeper philosophically, spiritually, not to mention much further back historically, than you're probably going to want to go.

The belief that "by killing people you create freedom" is totally dysfunctional.

 

[Vroom_C14]

It's absolutely true. Veterans who just got out of service have incredibly high unemployment levels. Much higher that their civilian counterparts. Same for suicide. Vets kill themselves far more often than civilians. It's well documented that vets struggle until they can age and put service behind them. Whether you want them to be or not, our troops are burnouts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...still-experiencing-double-digit-unemployment/

You don't have the balls to walk a day in a troops boots. Your vag is leaking sand all.over your

It goes much deeper philosophically, spiritually, not to mention much further back historically, than you're probably going to want to go.

The belief that "by killing people you create freedom" is totally dysfunctional.

Just because one opts for military service does not mean they are in it to kill.

I never meant to imply killing equates to freedom. More along the lines of a military can fight to keep freedom, also use diplomacy and show of force.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

You don't have the balls to walk a day in a troops boots. Your vag is leaking sand all.over your

Just because one opts for military service does not mean they are in it to kill.

I never meant to imply killing equates to freedom. More along the lines of a military can fight to keep freedom, also use diplomacy and show of force.

What Strumm is saying isn't necessarily a knock on the troops but a knock on the political philosophy in DC. The whole, we must destroy the evil, to preserve our freedom line. It's BS. We have created our hate across the world by our always trying to 'spread democracy'.
Huey, is just unhinged and unrealistic, and bitter.

 

[Nat Algren]

We were fighting them over there, but the current administration shat down their legs and now we have isis and the like and their insertion in the US. GEnerals have stated had troops remaind in place isis would not be, since Obama 1 and 2 removed the troops and drew disappearing lines that the world laughed at.

Reasons people don't sign up, they want someone to fight their battles, they are too chicken shit to defend others, they can't put others before themselves.

Honestly I know several that didn't join that are worse off than I and those I served with, I have a very good civilian job based off my MOS.

Please provide proof of drones killing Americans - aside from your tin hat reception.

Tin hat 'reception'? What is that? Anyway...have you ever heard of Anwar al- Awlaki? Jeh Johnson?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...eb8856-3768-11e3-ae46-e4248e75c8ea_story.html

Reasons people don't sign up? Unfortunately, there aren't enough. But, I would guess people have become wise to the fact that the wars are always based on lies. The best a soldier can get from it is to come home with all limbs intact and mentally stable. Do you think anyone is making money off these wars? And guess what Hoss? ISIS and AQ were created by Western governments so Washington would have an excuse to continue their presence in the ME. They need an enemy so they can extract more of your tax dollars to fight senseless wars.