Sounds like we might get some good schedule news
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Can we please just pay iowa state to go away? If they want to play us, they can come to Kinnick every 2-3 years
I think you read what you wanted to read. I read that Barta wants to move on from Iowa State and they have sent out the feelers.
I'd hope they this scenario every couple years (3-5) is play 6 home with a neutral site game within the Midwest in Chicago, KC, St Louis, Indy etc. Lets you keep ISU game, play another power 5 and could offer first dibs to season ticket holders (like bowl games) to satisfy them so they could have their 7th game.
Barta said just this year he is willing as long as the take is the same as a home game.
I still am in disbelief that "Iowa" fans want to keep ISU at the current level. Barta even said that with a 9 game conference schedule (which we cannot change) plus ISU each year (which we can change) Iowa's hands are tied for future OOC opponents. Get ISU the f off the schedule unless they want to come to Iowa City every other year and pay us for God's sakes. This whole deal is a horror show for Iowa. Play a crap team in their Super Bowl, win by 40 and drop spots in the polls. And next year we give them their only sellout and exposure?! Jesus people.
Boise State is available 9/28/2019, although I'm not sure the networks are paying as much for a BSU game as they were a few years ago. But if the money is there, BSU in Denver could be fun.
Other possible Denver games: Washington, Cal, BYU, and Utah are all available in 2022 and 2023.
Alabama's got it right - they scheduled FSU for their first game of 2017. Scheduling these games is a great idea for teams like Alabama. If you win this game it gives you an almost automatic bid into the playoff if you are there at the end of the year. If you lose the game, it's a quality loss and shouldn't really affect you much once playoff time comes around. It's brilliant.
We should start scheduling games like this. We're not going to be in the hunt for the playoff every year so we might as well schedule a game that's going to me more exciting than another MAC opponent. If we win it's a massive bonus, and if we lose it doesn't make us look as bad as if we drop one against an inferior team. I see only positives of trying to schedule strong power 5 teams in the beginning of the year.
We should start scheduling games like this. We're not going to be in the hunt for the playoff every year so we might as well schedule a game that's going to me more exciting than another MAC opponent. If we win it's a massive bonus, and if we lose it doesn't make us look as bad as if we drop one against an inferior team. I see only positives of trying to schedule strong power 5 teams in the beginning of the year.
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In 1981, in only Hayden Fry's third season, Iowa's three nonconference games were, in order, #7 Nebraska in Iowa City, Iowa State in Ames, and #8 UCLA in Iowa City. Iowa beat top ten teams Nebraska (10-7) and UCLA (20-7), but lost @ ISU. Of course, Iowa State was decent at that time.
Anyway, that was a big-boy schedule, and a team that had 19 straight losing seasons before 1981 met the challenge. The Hawkeyes went on, of course, to share the Big Ten title and make Iowa's first Rose Bowl appearance in over 20 years. Iowa football has been on the national stage, for the most part, ever since.
Had Iowa played a MAC team and an FCS team in 1981 instead of a pair of national powers, I wonder what would have happened.
The point is that I agree: Iowa must change the ISU contract so that game is only played once or twice in four years, and Iowa must drop the MAC schools and take on some national programs, many of which other posters have mentioned.
There are all kinds of great places to play and many interesting opponents. The fans and players deserve the upgrade ASAP.
Anyway, that was a big-boy schedule, and a team that had 19 straight losing seasons before 1981 met the challenge. The Hawkeyes went on, of course, to share the Big Ten title and make Iowa's first Rose Bowl appearance in over 20 years. Iowa football has been on the national stage, for the most part, ever since.
Had Iowa played a MAC team and an FCS team in 1981 instead of a pair of national powers, I wonder what would have happened.
The point is that I agree: Iowa must change the ISU contract so that game is only played once or twice in four years, and Iowa must drop the MAC schools and take on some national programs, many of which other posters have mentioned.
There are all kinds of great places to play and many interesting opponents. The fans and players deserve the upgrade ASAP.
Lots of the big boys rave about Captain Kirk being a "developer". If so, then his teams develop even during the season and are far better in November than September. Thus, schedules such as in the past 10 years are BEST for Iowa: jubilation with early wins--and time to develop in the Ferencz/Doyle manner. Maybe playing powerhouses early works for Wisconsin--and jets them to the top 10. But that works for Iowa too. Wisconsin outruns the bear (LSU) and Iowa outruns Wisconsin. Who avoids a mauling while winning the race?!
For those of you citing schedules in the 70's...times are different now. Barta said a few years ago (prior to 9 game schedule, where we have zero flexibility as long as ISU's on the schedule) that all the "big boys" were wanting a 2 for one type deal. We go to their stadium twice, they come to Kinnick once. Some simply weren't interested at all unless it was a one time game at their stadium.
There's little value to the Big boys playing us, much like there's little value for us playing ISU. Iowa isn't a great recruiting area, they don't get big press coverage, a win is just what they should do and a loss is a black mark for them. Even Wisconsin can only work a neutral site deal and they have much more panache with the press and quite a bit larger recruiting base in Wisconsin. If it weren't for ISU, we could potentially work a neutral site deal like Wisconsin did.
Think of it like having a party. The A list teams only want to go to parties hosted by other A list teams. We're barely B list right now.
There's little value to the Big boys playing us, much like there's little value for us playing ISU. Iowa isn't a great recruiting area, they don't get big press coverage, a win is just what they should do and a loss is a black mark for them. Even Wisconsin can only work a neutral site deal and they have much more panache with the press and quite a bit larger recruiting base in Wisconsin. If it weren't for ISU, we could potentially work a neutral site deal like Wisconsin did.
Think of it like having a party. The A list teams only want to go to parties hosted by other A list teams. We're barely B list right now.
Ummm.....no. The years we play 5 road games in conference, we have 4 conference home games plus 3 non-conference home games: ISU and two other small schools that will come to Kinnick with no return game at their house. The way it is now, we always have 7 home games as long as the only non-con home and home is ISU.
For one thing....those games were scheduled before Hayden got here, I believe.
Also....people tend to forget that the reason Iowa played teams like Nebraska, UCLA, USC, etc. is because Iowa was the cupcake on these teams' schedule. They would play the Hawks because they figured we would be a guaranteed "W"......and we usually were.
Let's admit, though, 1981 was a lot different college football landscape. There were 20 fewer FBS teams for one point.
But, the other main one. Not every game was on TV. If someone like Iowa who had been terrible for years they had to schedule like that to get noticed.
If you look by 1984, again not every game on TV, the OOC was at Hawaii and ISU, 86 was Northern Illinois, utep and ISU, by 95 it was UNI, ISU, New Mexico
Has he actually said this or is this just a feeling after getting our asses handed to us every single time we've been west of the Rockies under him?
But they still came to Iowa City. Although I think scheduling customs were a bit different back then and setting up home-and-home match ups was the rule, not the exception. I'm not sure why athletic departments are so much more dependent on home game paydays now as they were then, especially with all the extra TV money that did not exist prior to the 1990's.
What part of this don 't you people understand? It takes two to arrange a preseason game. Tell me one reason why Notre Dame would like to play Iowa in Solder Field. The state of Iowa has no recruits they are interested in and it would be like Iowa playing Iowa St. No way to win because your suppose to win and if not it would be a big upset. Remember Iowa has gotten good enough to be a pain in the bigger programs a-- but not a big enough name to make it worthwhile playing.
Pretty soon when ISU is forced to join a non-P5 conference, Iowa will only play ISU at home. It's going to be glorious!
There are a lot of programs out there though - we don't need to schedule Notre Dame necessarily, I would think a team like Texas A&M, TCU, Oklahoma St., etc. would accept
