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South Beach Duals

I wouldn't mind seeing Iowa going to other tournaments say on a every other year schedule of sorts

Now if Midlands could start drawing the non college guys again, I'd change my opinion quickly.

Exactly I'd like to see us do something exciting and "fun"

I think our guys wrestling as much as they do, they don't need a Midlands to get us ready for NCAA's
 
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if i could save enough vacation, i would come to miami just to meet you pinter.

Flight round that time are about 180$ from O'hare.
My house is big enough for a team. Always welcome sir DT :) No hotels needed just watch out for my boys night terrors and me sleepwalking lol.

Hope this South Beach duals churns well. We really need it too.
 
Cornell, Mizzou, and Edinboro. That'd be 3 great duals plus I'd love to see them rent out a big house, go to the beach, and have some f**.

I'd still want our redshirts to go to the Midlands
 
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Nah, I like them keeping the tradition and coming to my state. The drive will be exceptionally close since the midlands will be at the Sears Center this year. Just need to pump up the midlands. Yes I agree with some of your points, however my own selfish reasons trump those.
 
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Well if it was full can't over full and have to have someone come assault one wrestler and drag him out

As someone who administrates a large tournament, there really is no such thing as "full" regarding one wrestler. Scratches and such can be estimated but you are always working with a fluid number, you may be full in regards to teams - which would add ten wrestlers - or multiple individuals, but one wrestler is NOT going to make you "over full."

There may be deadlines - no idea on how those deadlines have been enforced in the past by the Midlands - but turning down a single wrestler because you are full is just a nice way of saying you don't want them competing in your tournament. Could be because the wrestler isn't good enough to warrant the invite or the exception - don't think this is the case with Hall. More likely this is the Midlands exerting pressure on PSU, saying something like "you guys don't come here, you regularly go to our competitor, so we aren't going to help you out with this." Tournaments ARE in competition with one another and guys that run tournaments are generally competitive. I'm sure if the Midlands saw letting Hall compete as a gateway to getting PSU to compete in the future they would have let him in. They didn't, so they didn't. Which is understandable - not ideal, but understandable.
 
As someone who administrates a large tournament, there really is no such thing as "full" regarding one wrestler. Scratches and such can be estimated but you are always working with a fluid number, you may be full in regards to teams - which would add ten wrestlers - or multiple individuals, but one wrestler is NOT going to make you "over full."

There may be deadlines - no idea on how those deadlines have been enforced in the past by the Midlands - but turning down a single wrestler because you are full is just a nice way of saying you don't want them competing in your tournament. Could be because the wrestler isn't good enough to warrant the invite or the exception - don't think this is the case with Hall. More likely this is the Midlands exerting pressure on PSU, saying something like "you guys don't come here, you regularly go to our competitor, so we aren't going to help you out with this." Tournaments ARE in competition with one another and guys that run tournaments are generally competitive. I'm sure if the Midlands saw letting Hall compete as a gateway to getting PSU to compete in the future they would have let him in. They didn't, so they didn't. Which is understandable - not ideal, but understandable.
Your take on it makes plenty of sense to me. As a Midlands organizer, you want PSU at your tournament. You want all weight classes strengthened, not just one. The benefits of letting Hall in is greatly skewed to PSU, you gotta hold out for a "better deal".
 
Your take on it makes plenty of sense to me. As a Midlands organizer, you want PSU at your tournament. You want all weight classes strengthened, not just one. The benefits of letting Hall in is greatly skewed to PSU, you gotta hold out for a "better deal".

I may be wrong on this, but I thought I heard that the NCAA or high school associations changed the rules and no longer allow high school wrestlers to participate in tournaments like the Midlands??? Anyone else that can shed some light on this subject???
 
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I may be wrong on this, but I thought I heard that the NCAA or high school associations changed the rules and no longer allow high school wrestlers to participate in tournaments like the Midlands??? Anyone else that can shed some light on this subject???
Pretty sure one qualified and wrestled in the 2015 midlands. So the change would be sometime after that .... If a high schooler is just a kid, like only 23 or something and not a man with a family they, they probably wouldn't let them wrestle.
 
I believe you are correct Hawk150. Iowa high schoolers are not permitted to compete against college aged students. They can practice together but not compete. Not sure about other states though.
 
Pretty sure one qualified and wrestled in the 2015 midlands. So the change would be sometime after that .... If a high schooler is just a kid, like only 23 or something and not a man with a family they, they probably wouldn't let them wrestle.
It's an NCAA rule, not a HS rule. College events aren't allowed to admit high school wrestlers, period. And if I'm not mistaken, the only non-collegiate wrestler who competed at the 2015 Midlands is a guy who most emphatically does NOT fit that bill (David Taylor).
 
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It's an NCAA rule, not a HS rule. College events aren't allowed to admit high school wrestlers, period. And if I'm not mistaken, the only non-collegiate wrestler who competed at the 2015 Midlands is a guy who most emphatically does NOT fit that bill (David Taylor).

Yes. It's the Marstellar rule. When he was in 8th grade he entered the NLO (he actually won a match). The same year a bunch of HS kids were entering all kinds of opens all over PA. The Altons did it and a bunch of other kids.

The next year it was outlawed by the NCAA.
 
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