Sparty Take Aways

[And1Hawk]

Bama's 4 man DL thoroughly dominated an MSU O Line that took them on a 9 minute drive to beat us in the title game.

Cook was also very uncomfortable due to the pressure and we obviously did a poor job of pressuring him enough in the title game.

MSU's normally great secondary was absolute garbage as exposed by Nebraska. Our game plan was flawed as we waited until late in the game to go deep, which worked.

MSU's D Line was pretty stout especially against the run. They held Henry in check and gave up one big run late in the 4th around end.

Having lost to MSU and seeing what they did tonight (zero) I am very worried about tomorrow's game. We had better come with an A game.

 

[j0nnyhb_Prime]

R-E-L-A-X tonight's game means nothing for tomorrow ...

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

Sparty had no takeaways...did you watch the game?

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

Let's be clear here...very very clear. Stanford's front seven on defense looks nothing, and I repeat nothing like Alabama's defensive front. Stanford is undersized on the DL...Alabama is not.

 

[And1Hawk]

Let's be clear here...very very clear. Stanford's front seven on defense looks nothing, and I repeat nothing like Alabama's defensive front. Stanford is undersized on the DL...Alabama is not.

Fair point.

MSU losing not shocking. Being dismantled and dominated like a JV team was shocking to me. It may turn out to be Bama and then there was everyone else. If that's the case OK.

 

[relishingwinning18]

Bama's 4 man DL thoroughly dominated an MSU O Line that took them on a 9 minute drive to beat us in the title game.

Cook was also very uncomfortable due to the pressure and we obviously did a poor job of pressuring him enough in the title game.

MSU's normally great secondary was absolute garbage as exposed by Nebraska. Our game plan was flawed as we waited until late in the game to go deep, which worked.

MSU's D Line was pretty stout especially against the run. They held Henry in check and gave up one big run late in the 4th around end.

Having lost to MSU and seeing what they did tonight (zero) I am very worried about tomorrow's game. We had better come with an A game.

what does bama have to do with Stanford moron?

 

[HawkCapt1912]

Defense wins championships.

Bama's kept Sparty's offense off the field, causing Sparty's defense to tire.

 

[And1Hawk]

what does bama have to do with Stanford moron?

This is the time of the year where teams from different power 5 conferences get matched up and it's pretty clear that the best team the B1G could put up, the same team that also beat us, could not score a point in a playoff game nor put together more than a single drive. Stanford is not Bama but I hope we dot not have an inflated sense of superiority coming into tomorrow's contest. It would be disappointing to get blown out of the game like last year.

 

[HoundedHawk]

[QUOTE="And1Hawk, post: 1638572, member: 15436] Stanford is not Bama but I hope we dot not have an inflated sense of superiority coming into tomorrow's contest. [/QUOTE]
Anyone who has to hope such is not living in reality in this matter concerning Iowa football.

 

[mtown66]

MSU was completely outcoached by Saban. Saban knew that MSU would would over compensate on trying to stop Henry and they game planned to offset that strategy.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

Let's be clear here...very very clear. Stanford's front seven on defense looks nothing, and I repeat nothing like Alabama's defensive front. Stanford is undersized on the DL...Alabama is not.

Very true !!!!!!

 

[feces hurling monkey]

What I learned from that game is I have no idea how anyone is going to stop Bama.

 

[Hawk-A-Loogey]

[QUOTE="And1Hawk, post: 1638572, member: 15436" Stanford is not Bama but I hope we dot not have an inflated sense of superiority coming into tomorrow's contest.

Anyone who has to hope such is not living in reality in this matter concerning Iowa football.[/QUOTE]

Wassup hounded????!!!!!! I thought u got banned from HR.

 

[amahawk]

Very true !!!!!!

Alabama had athletic 313 lb. D tackles., ouch!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Bama's 4 man DL thoroughly dominated an MSU O Line that took them on a 9 minute drive to beat us in the title game. (They also didn't even have time to get away with holding like they did on that 9 minute drive.........)

Cook was also very uncomfortable due to the pressure and we obviously did a poor job of pressuring him enough in the title game. (Wrong.)

MSU's normally great secondary was absolute garbage as exposed by Nebraska. Our game plan was flawed as we waited until late in the game to go deep, which worked. (Not flawed so much as too tight-chested.)

MSU's D Line was pretty stout especially against the run. They held Henry in check and gave up one big run late in the 4th around end.

Having lost to MSU and seeing what they did tonight (zero) I am very worried about tomorrow's game. We had better come with an A game. (Why? Are we playing Alabama?)

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Alabama PAYS athletic 313 lb. D tackles., ouch!

FIFY

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

What I learned from that game is I have no idea how anyone is going to stop Bama.

Just do what Ole Miss did....play for play, and have everything happen exactly like it did in that game.

 

[herkyfan78]

MSU was a double digit underdog from the opening line, and we've been a TD underdog since then as well. Not sure what last night's game really changes here. Anyone that thought we would just take care of business without any resistance against Stanford just doesn't understand football, just like the idiots proclaiming Sparty as legit contenders for the NC after they beat us. Anyone that watched them play all year long knew that their D wasn't nearly as good as it looked against us, nor was their running game (which did nothing against us until it had to, then ran it right down our throat in the 4th quarter).

This is easily MSU's worst team in the last 3 years. Our offense sucked in the title game against a pretty mediocre Sparty D. If they show up and put points on the board against Stanford like we did in the other 12 games this year, we'll be in pretty good shape and will have a chance to win in the 4th quarter. If not, this will end up being another Hayden-esque NYD ass-kicking.

Just like our offense isn't as bad as it looked in Indy, our D isn't nearly that good. It was worked over several times this year (Illinois in the pass game, Indiana on the ground, Minnesota in every facet, Maryland on the ground) and does not have the ability to completely shut down Stanford's O. They have an elite OL and will be able to run the ball against us, and their QB is pretty good, too.

They are going to score some points, and we will have to keep up.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

R-E-L-A-X tonight's game means nothing for tomorrow ...

In a way, I agree with you...but yesterdays games didn't help the hawks at all.

I'm sure Stanford was already anxious to make up for their MSU loss and a bit angry to be the only power 5 conf champ watching the playoffs on tv.
After watching those 2 sad games yesterday, I think the chip on their shoulder has grown just as big as the one on Iowa's.

The added RB pressure on the hawks already had me a bit nervous. Especially when Stanfords playing in their home state and where most their seniors probably feel is their jan 1st home.

But in the end the hawks do control their own destiny! GO HAWKS!!

 

[herkyfan78]

In a way, I agree with you...but yesterdays games didn't help the hawks at all.

I'm sure Stanford was already anxious to make up for their MSU loss and a bit angry to be the only power 5 conf champ watching the playoffs on tv.
After watching those 2 sad games yesterday, I think the chip on their shoulder has grown just as big as the one on Iowa's.

The added RB pressure on the hawks already had me a bit nervous. Especially when Stanfords playing in their home state and where most their seniors probably feel is their jan 1st home.

But in the end the hawks do control their own destiny! GO HAWKS!!

JFC, Stanford is not going to play "harder" because of what happened yesterday.

That is such a stupid f^%$ng argument.

 

[And1Hawk]

In a way, I agree with you...but yesterdays games didn't help the hawks at all.

I'm sure Stanford was already anxious to make up for their MSU loss and a bit angry to be the only power 5 conf champ watching the playoffs on tv.
After watching those 2 sad games yesterday, I think the chip on their shoulder has grown just as big as the one on Iowa's.

The added RB pressure on the hawks already had me a bit nervous. Especially when Stanfords playing in their home state and where most their seniors probably feel is their jan 1st home.

But in the end the hawks do control their own destiny! GO HAWKS!!

Agree. If you recall last year the OSU players mentioned they got an emotional lift and confidence against Bama after watching Wisky beat a good Auburn team. You know players from both sides watched this brutal beat down so physiologically Stanfiord has to gain a little something from this.

This trip to the Rose has a LITTLE BIT of the first KF Orange Bowl trip feel where we were celebrating a great run while USC came to prepare to win the game only. This trip we have been going to Disneyland and KF wanted the kids to enjoy the experience. That whole approach makes me nervous since you know that Stanford is not taking the same approach being from Cali. They do not care about the sight seeing, etc.

The kids have been saying the right things but the MSU beat down cannot help when we lost to that team.

 

[herkyfan78]

Agree. If you recall last year the OSU players mentioned they got an emotional lift and confidence against Bams after watching Wisky beat a good Auburn team. You know players from both sides watched this brutal beat down so physiologically Stanfiord has to gain a little something from this.

This trip to the Rose has a LITTLE BIT of the first KF Orange Bowl trip feel where we were celebrating a great run while USC came to prepare to win the game only. This trip we have been going to Disneyland and KF wanted the kids to enjoy the experience. That whole approach makes me nervous since you know that Stanford is not taking the same approach being from Cali. They do not care about the sight seeing, etc.

The kids have been saying the right things but the MSU beat down cannot help when we lost to that team.

Stanford went to Disneyland, too. Every team does. It's part of the official activities that take place before the game. Maybe you missed them interviewing Shaw and a bunch of his players alongside ours.

The first Orange Bowl disaster had to do with:

1) an insane 47 day layoff between our final regular season game and the bowl. This year it will be 27 days, or roughly 3 weeks less of a layoff.

2) USC was just really F'n good. Take a look at their roster and what some of those guys did in the league (Carson Palmer is in contention for MVP this year for God's sake).

3) Ken O'Keefe's brilliant idea to turn Brad Banks into a pocket passer and basically play against every offensive strength that Iowa had shown throughout the year.

Every single one of these things was corrected on our next major bowl trip. KF also has one of the best bowl records, literally, in Big Ten history. Why now, 17 years into his tenure, people are worried about his ability to prepare his team adequately for a bowl game, is beyond me.

We might lose, but it will have a hell of a lot more to do with what Stanford brings to the table than how many plates of prime rib we ate or which amusement park rides we went on.

 

[herecomethehawkeyes]

I am very worried about tomorrow's game. We had better come with an A game.

Is this the official "this game makes me nervous" thread?

 

[herecomethehawkeyes]

reading comments in this thread, there better not be any whining going forward about Iowa being disrespected in the media.

Between the "this game makes me nervous" threads against teams like Purdue, and the comments in this thread, its almost like people are fishing for reasons that Iowa will not win.

All last nights game likely means is that Alabama is on a completely level than everybody else. Alabama has one more game to prove that.

 

[ISPHawk]

What I learned from that game is I have no idea how anyone is going to stop Bama.

Spread them out and pass the ball. Bama is soft down the seam. Bama will struggle with Clemson.

 

[Lone Clone]

I would think the comparative performances of Stanford and Iowa against Northwestern would be more relevant than Alabama's ass-kicking of Michigan State. And I don't think either one is all that relevant.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

JFC, Stanford is not going to play "harder" because of what happened yesterday.

That is such a stupid f^%$ng argument.

Da Coach. This is getting too easy.

 

[herkyfan78]

I would think the comparative performances of Stanford and Iowa against Northwestern would be more relevant than Alabama's ass-kicking of Michigan State. And I don't think either one is all that relevant.

Opening game of the year, several time zones away for Stanford.

Every single Big Ten fan is well-versed with that script.

 

[WahooHawk]

Alabama has an outstanding D line, we do not. Alabama obviously ttok some queues from our game and through the ball down field, understanding that spartys front seven could handle the run, even with Henry. We waited until the 4th quarter....

Had Iowa played bama last night I'm sure we would have seen a lot of henry...our strength this year is lbs and secondary. As such, Stanford will probably work the short game, and try to establish the run to the outside.

 

[relishingwinning18]

This is the time of the year where teams from different power 5 conferences get matched up and it's pretty clear that the best team the B1G could put up, the same team that also beat us, could not score a point in a playoff game nor put together more than a single drive. Stanford is not Bama but I hope we dot not have an inflated sense of superiority coming into tomorrow's contest. It would be disappointing to get blown out of the game like last year.

i guess with several big ten vs pac 12 match ups already played this bowl year, those would be more relevant. Bama would have skunked any other team in the country last night. Looking at that game, and grabbing some sort of parallel for today's game makes no sense.

 

[Run&Blade]

All Iowa has to do is shut down a white running back.

A far easier task than what Michigan State had to accomplish.

Iowa in some ways is lucky they lost the championship game. They can avoid the inevitable that MSU faced.

 

[RockEyeState]

R-E-L-A-X tonight's game means nothing for tomorrow ...

This............If you actually watched the MSU game, you'd realize that until almost half-time, the game was a 0-0 tie. Then, Alabama, like IOWA exposed the defensive secondary of MSU on a big play to Ridley, over the top. After that play, MSU never responded. Iowa could/should have done the same thing, after Tevaun Smith's big play. Missed opportunity

 

[soybean]

All Iowa has to do is shut down a white running back.

A far easier task than what Michigan State had to accomplish.

Iowa in some ways is lucky they lost the championship game. They can avoid the inevitable that MSU faced.

I'm not saying that Iowa would have beat Alabama last night, but they would not have allowed themselves to been taken out behind the woodshed and humilated like the Spartans did.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

iowa needs to get some third down conversions to let their defense rest a little , keep the d off the field, and keep mccafferey off the field

 

[Run&Blade]

Obviously Iowa would have performed better than MSU. Look at how Iowa beat Wisconsin and Northwestern. Their two biggest wins.

 

[tedboy78]

In a way, I agree with you...but yesterdays games didn't help the hawks at all.

I'm sure Stanford was already anxious to make up for their MSU loss and a bit angry to be the only power 5 conf champ watching the playoffs on tv.
After watching those 2 sad games yesterday, I think the chip on their shoulder has grown just as big as the one on Iowa's.

The added RB pressure on the hawks already had me a bit nervous. Especially when Stanfords playing in their home state and where most their seniors probably feel is their jan 1st home.

But in the end the hawks do control their own destiny! GO HAWKS!!

In their home state but it will be a heavily one sided crowd towards the Hawks. Should be a really good game. As for MSU (and it would have been for Iowa) Bama was a bad matchup. It happens. I do agree that MSU quit but I think Bama broke their will. MAYBE Iowa doesn't wilt so easily, maybe not.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

My take is Bama made them a one dimensional team and Cook wilted under pressure ( along with some of his receivers who dropped some catch able balls ). Defensively MSU sold out to stop the run and make the Bama quarterback beat them and he did. About that simple really. Bama the better team and would beat MSU 9 out of ten times. Cook's INT just before half was the killer. Kind of reminded me of the '82 RB when we only trailed 7 - 0 with a minute and change to go in the half and Fry gambled on 4th and 7 from midfield with the backup QB in there and failed to pick up the first down and Washington was in our end zone within a minute thanks to a big PI call and we lost all momentum and went into half down two scores and end up shut out 28 - 0.

 

[Buffhawk]

MSU was completely outcoached by Saban. Saban knew that MSU would would over compensate on trying to stop Henry and they game planned to offset that strategy.

Saban's coaching class is going to need a lot more education, if they are ever to beat their teacher! It did not surprise me as much that Bama beat them, but how they beat them and by how much! Just more fuel now for ESECPN!

 

[spiderland]

Sparty had no takeaways...did you watch the game?

This is still the best post in this thread. JMO.

 

[HawkLogic]

Bama's 4 man DL thoroughly dominated an MSU O Line that took them on a 9 minute drive to beat us in the title game.

Cook was also very uncomfortable due to the pressure and we obviously did a poor job of pressuring him enough in the title game.

MSU's normally great secondary was absolute garbage as exposed by Nebraska. Our game plan was flawed as we waited until late in the game to go deep, which worked.

MSU's D Line was pretty stout especially against the run. They held Henry in check and gave up one big run late in the 4th around end.

Having lost to MSU and seeing what they did tonight (zero) I am very worried about tomorrow's game. We had better come with an A game.

I mostly agree. MSU was exposed and looking back, Iowa did poor job on offense. We needed to pass more. Canzeri getting hurt also hurt us big time.

I wouldn't go as far to say MSU's secondary is garbage, but they do crowd the line of scrimmage with their safeties and take away the run game and dare you to throw over the top. Part of what killed us was our OT couldn't handle that DE Shaqille and he blind sided Beathard twice. Nebraska had a mobile QB that could buy time and exploit MSU with deep throws. Alabama had good OL and pass protected.

I think Beathard is better QB than Alabama's. What Iowa lacked was a dominant DL that could pass rush and our OT's are not good enough to pass protect Beathard.

I think Iowa would have given Alabama a better game. Hopefully we show up vs Stanford and don't get azz whooping like MSU did.